KotoR 3: Ideas and Suggestions

[Plano Skywalker]

think of Dxun part II, (multithreaded adventure). I want that to be the norm. That way, we have to use all of our shipmates not just the same ones every time.

 

oh, yes, and some adventures need to be away from the starport...so far that we have to swoop bike to them....I don't care if it is real time or just cutscreens but we need to use the swoop bikes in game once in a while.

 

rideable mounts wouldn't be bad either (world-specific)

 

and some sort of ice world is an absolute must, IMO.

[Jorian Drake]

The only female that looked good DS was Bastila, the others looked nasty. Another reason why we need cool looking masks.

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in-game yes, but ya forgot cartoon+movie+SW RPG drawings

[Gromnir]

I think weiser cain has the best idea so far.

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maybe, but the suggestion is also pretty damn meaningless too.

 

A) people want a compelling core storyline.

 

B) people want lots of choices and they want those choices to matter.

 

this would be okie dokie if the (A) people and the (B) people were not the same, but they are... and they not seem to see no tensions 'tween what they is asking for.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Guest The Architect]

Well, one thing for sure is, I want to go a new character in K3 and I have a backstory of this new character to cover things so it's not corny. I'd make it that your character was born on the world of Talvarin which is the homeworld of Bastila Shan. You were originally supposed to be given to the Jedi Order just like Bastila was but your parents died and you were handed over to your uncle and aunty who are your last living relatives. And they live on the world of Exocron, a world lingering on the borders of the unknown regions, way out in the south of the outer-rim far away from the Republic. So the Jedi Order didn't know about you and you were never told that you could use the force because your uncle and aunty hated force-sensitives, etc and neglected you.

[Plano Skywalker]

this would be okie dokie if the (A) people and the (B) people were not the same, but they are... and they not seem to see no tensions 'tween what they is asking for.

 

HA! Good Fun!

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I have heard that Indigo Prophecy (the modern day icon of the Adventure Game) has multiple endings. I don't know from first hand experience but a guy at the local game shop swears it is true.

 

If an ultra-linear adventure game can have different endings, then an RPG sure can.

 

But Balder's Gate is the example I would point to: compelling story (yes, it uses the PC's own backstory to help it along but I think that is pretty much a given for the KOTOR games), lots of side quests, and party management options. Not to mention the ability to dual class (of all the things!).

 

True, Balder's Gate used a voice-over narrator to help tell the story while the KOTOR games tell the story through NPC convos (which is better, I admit). So, the argument goes, with this kind of storytelling, you can't have party management.

 

I would argue that you can. Basically, you would have an inner circle and an outer circle. The inner circle NPCs cannot be replaced (nor can they be killed off). The outer circle NPCs can be replaced (and can actually die on the missions).

 

There is also something to be said for "passengers" who need to go from one world to another. As they are about to leave the ship, they tell their bit of the tale....there is also ship-to-ship transmissions, ghost visitations and many other ways to tell the story in a more immersive way....shipmate convos are but one way to do that.

[Guest The Architect]

I wouldn't like any voiceover for my character. Not even battlecries. And certainly not dialogue lines. The different PC's will speak in different ways and will say things differently. With a line, depending on the PC, it might be said with exasperation, restrained anger, resignation etc. I wouldn't like to listen to a voice actor say the lines differently from the way I know my PC would. I know when he/she will pause, when he/she will mutter, when he/she will be stunned to momentery silance. This would different for all of the PC's and as I said before, I'd rather my imagination supply how I know my PC would speak than have it block out an actor saying it differently. I know there are people who would find this a most interesting feature, but I just wouldn't like it.

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Exactly Reajeasa! As an example, when I go a DS character and I might just be asking questions like 'What do you want?' I like to imagine my character saying that with a real attitude problem. In fact, I think having the main character muted was one of the best ideas in the KOTOR Series.

[moreKOTORplz]

i'm sure wesier mean't that your decisions have a greater effect on the course of the game. such as killing a semi-important person, like an exchange boss, effecting how the exchange views you on new planets. being able to interact more organically with each individual planet would be sweet.

[Wild Storm]

Instead of having flat out create a character selection screen if Revan should appear, why not do what they did KOTOR II? Sometime in the beginning you choose the alignment/sex, then later, you take control of Bastila if the character is male, Carth if female or Canderous if female/ds. They describe Revan in some sort of romantic (except for Canderous who goes on to say that she loved the pilot or so it seemed...) Here is an example.

 

"His eyes, brightning up the morning sky in a stunning . His skin, warm, when his arms held me...his hair that shined in the lightness of the force."

 

You get the picture. :cool:

[Darth Sun_Tzu]

Seen as the other thread that i posted this in was locked, i thought i would just copy and paste it in here.

 

What i would like to see out of K3

 

Story-wise i'm not bothered as long as it finishes the trilogy off well, but if they can't then it migh be better to start with a fresh story. But there are 2 things i'd really like to see.

1 - more master/apprentice stuff. For example, at the beggining of the game, upto lvl 8, your master trains you, like kreia does. Then you go off on your own (for what ever reason). At lvl 12-14 you take on your own apprentice and you teach them, by that i mean actually teach them and not how it works in k2.

 

2 - A more in-depth process of creating your lightsaber. Going on special quests for the parts and atleast a short cut scence showing the building and meditation that is required in the construction of the lightsaber.

[Bastilla_Skywalker]

Oh nice the Kotor III thread is back. :D

[Oerwinde]

1 - more master/apprentice stuff. For example, at the beggining of the game, upto lvl 8, your master trains you, like kreia does. Then you go off on your own (for what ever reason). At lvl 12-14 you take on your own apprentice and you teach them, by that i mean actually teach them and not how it works in k2.

 

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Yeah, have only one apprentice, and have that relationship a lot more in depth.

[Darque]

hmmm... it looks like the boards had a hiccup :ph34r:

[CoM_Solaufein]

A new ship. The Ebon Hawk is old, tiring and needs to be replaced. Masks and hoods are also a must have for improvements.

[DAWUSS]

If we are toi have a new ship, I want it to be a fighter jet, not some flying house with guns

[Gabrielle]

A new ship! Yes! I would miss the Ebon hawk but we must move on to new and exciting things like a ship.

[astr0creep]

What would be nice, .txt files included in the installation for every line spoken in the game.

You then read those lines while recording yourself and replace the appropriate backed-up sound files with your own. :cool:

[Wild Storm]

No. The Ebon Hawk is like the Millenium Falcon. You simply can't get rid of it.

[Darth Sun_Tzu]

1 - more master/apprentice stuff. For example, at the beggining of the game, upto lvl 8, your master trains you, like kreia does. Then you go off on your own (for what ever reason). At lvl 12-14 you take on your own apprentice and you teach them, by that i mean actually teach them and not how it works in k2.

 

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Yeah, have only one apprentice, and have that relationship a lot more in depth.

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But how would you recruit your apprentice? I'd like it if they would join your party as your apprentice rather than as in k1 where they are an existing party member.

[LadyCrimson]

At lvl 12-14 you take on your own apprentice and you teach them, by that i mean actually teach them and not how it works in k2.

I'd be interested in your ideas how to achieve that in a video game. It'd definitely feel more immersive to actually teach rather than just have a few mumbled lines while sitting and then "ding" instant Jedi, but how?

 

Maybe after a few battles you'd get an oppurtunity to 'teach' them a new skill, or something, and after so many, they'd become full Jedi? I dunno...I'm not an idea-person...which is why I'm asking you what yours are.

[astr0creep]

How about creating your whole party, similar to Temple of Elemental Evil?

 

There could be restrictions for story purposes, like creating characters out of 3 females and 5 males, prenamed so the player cannot choose the names.

 

Basically, you would just level them up from scratch, with choices of appearance.

[Judge Hades]

Oh nice the Kotor III thread is back. :D

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Unfortunately.

[Musopticon?]

Judge LiveJournal, you don't have to read that thread or post into it, if it bother you so much. We all know your sentiments. Unless you have something worth reading or at least constructive to add, go bother Gabs or whatever it is you do with your free time, because whining isn't exaclty needed in this thread. Okay?

[Judge Hades]

So you are whining about my whining. Hippocrit.

[Musopticon?]

That's your best shot?

[Darth Sun_Tzu]

At lvl 12-14 you take on your own apprentice and you teach them, by that i mean actually teach them and not how it works in k2.

I'd be interested in your ideas how to achieve that in a video game. It'd definitely feel more immersive to actually teach rather than just have a few mumbled lines while sitting and then "ding" instant Jedi, but how?

 

Maybe after a few battles you'd get an oppurtunity to 'teach' them a new skill, or something, and after so many, they'd become full Jedi? I dunno...I'm not an idea-person...which is why I'm asking you what yours are.

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I'd like it to be a bit like how kreia teaches you various things about the force and certain powers. I'd like to see a few cut scenes and dialog sequences, where you teach them about the force and maybe a couple of times where you actually teach them certain special force powers. For example, battle meditation or force crush.