Why did they bother?..

[Sikon]

Did they have some plans for Bastila other than a cameo?

[Craigboy2]

What? I could swear that that's not there on my game...

[Sikon]

Use a mod to recruit Bastila into the party, then see for yourself. (I copied Bastila's .utc file to override/p_disciple.utc and entered the Enclave Sublevel with a fresh character.)

The question is, if they never intended Bastila to be playable, why did they draw a unique icon and write a description for Battle Meditation? Like they didn't have anything tlse to do...

Edited September 29, 2005 by Sikon

[The man in the iron mask]

I don't know where you got that from. In K2, Battle Meditation is a power that the PC can select. It is no longer unique to Bastila.

[Sikon]

Did you even look at the screenshot? It's a different Battle Meditation, with a different icon and description.

[Laozi]

more victims of the "overly ambitious" development cycle

[BattleCookiee]

Could be

 

1) Leftovers from Kotor1...

Don't know if you ever found

 

RancorCorpse - Krayt Dragon[Access to Ahto City denied.]

 

Ingame in Kotor2. But it certainly is in Kotor2's files...

 

2) Added with your mod

 

3) Cut-content, see sticky

[Sikon]

I made the mod myself for internal use, so I'm certain it didn't add new feats. And it cannot be leftover from KOTOR I as there was simply no feat or Force power called "Battle Meditation" there.

[BattleCookiee]

No?

 

I could swear Bastila had "Battle Meditation" in one of her stats pages...

[germi91]

I've never seen that before. Kotor II still is a puzzle...

[stoffe -mkb-]

I made the mod myself for internal use, so I'm certain it didn't add new feats. And it cannot be leftover from KOTOR I as there was simply no feat or Force power called "Battle Meditation" there.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Actually there was. Bastila had that feat as standard in KotOR1, though it didn't do anything but sit in her feat list looking pretty. Here's a screenshot of it:

 

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1327/ba...ditation8lf.jpg

 

The only thing you can "blame" Obsidian for in this case is to not have removed Bastila's creature template from the first game in the TSL data.

Edited September 29, 2005 by stoffe -mkb-

[DarkAngle]

Actually there was. Bastila had that feat as standard in KotOR1, though it didn't do anything but sit in her feat list looking pretty. Here's a screenshot of it:

 

http://img216.imageshack.us/img21

[ProgenitorHK47]

I made the mod myself for internal use, so I'm certain it didn't add new feats. And it cannot be leftover from KOTOR I as there was simply no feat or Force power called "Battle Meditation" there.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Yes there is, as proven by that screenshot. And Obsidian kept almost every peice of data from Ki. Except for items, areas, and source data.

[Krookie]

Ahh, more cut content is revealed.

[dufflover]

Ahh, more cut content is revealed.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

More like un-cut stuff...

[Plano Skywalker]

the bottom line (as I see it) is that Bastila's Battle Meditation in KOTOR I should not be listed in her feat list.....because it is more a plot device than something that you can actually use.

 

if you can't use it, it shouldn't be there.

[BattleCookiee]

It's just like Kreia and the PC's Bond Power

Or the PC's "Vision of dangerous encounters"

Or Kreia's Teacher Abbility

 

All 3 Feats impossible to "use" and always active as plot device...

[Topaz Quasar]

It's just like Kreia and the PC's Bond Power

Or the PC's "Vision of dangerous encounters"

Or Kreia's Teacher Abbility

 

All 3 Feats impossible to "use" and always active as plot device...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Ummm...mentor and "force chain" does have gameplay uses....

[The man in the iron mask]

Did you even look at the screenshot? It's a different Battle Meditation, with a different icon and description.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Yes, I looked at the screenshot. Yes, it is different, but as I said before, Battle Meditation is no longer unique to Bastila, so although I don't know where you found it, it's irrelavent, because it's obviously not used.

[Musopticon?]

How does it bloody matter if the qa didn't remove something not used in the game from the code? Does it hinder you process or ruin your game in some way? Tyst ny.

[Darkside]

It's just like Kreia and the PC's Bond Power

Or the PC's "Vision of dangerous encounters"

Or Kreia's Teacher Abbility

 

All 3 Feats impossible to "use" and always active as plot device...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Ummm...mentor and "force chain" does have gameplay uses....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Blast, beat me to it. For those of you that don't remember, whatever positive or negative effects (poison, force speed, etc.) are inflicted on Kreia affect the PC as well, and vice versa. That's an ingame effect of Force Bond.

[Plano Skywalker]

How does it bloody matter if the qa didn't remove something not used in the game from the code? Does it hinder you process or ruin your game in some way? Tyst ny.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

answer: they did right by taking it out.

[BattleCookiee]

How does it bloody matter if the qa didn't remove something not used in the game from the code? Does it hinder you process or ruin your game in some way? Tyst ny.

 

Maybe he's un undercover ESRB-person who wants to use cut content to make this game AO? :D

 

Blast, beat me to it.  For those of you that don't remember, whatever positive or negative effects (poison, force speed, etc.) are inflicted on Kreia affect the PC as well, and vice versa.  That's an ingame effect of Force Bond.

 

Yes, it has an ingame effect. Just like Battle Meditation. But you can't "activate" it, and they could also make it work without the Force/Feat list displaying it happens...

Which was the point I was trying to make...

(PS. The Negative effects are not copied, nor are some Force Powers, like Force Body or Force Heal)

[Plano Skywalker]

Maybe he's un undercover ESRB-person who wants to use cut content to make this game AO?  :D

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

naaa....just wasting time talking about stuff that is not real.

[DoubleX]

It's just like Kreia and the PC's Bond Power

Or the PC's "Vision of dangerous encounters"

Or Kreia's Teacher Abbility

 

All 3 Feats impossible to "use" and always active as plot device...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Ummm...mentor and "force chain" does have gameplay uses....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Blast, beat me to it. For those of you that don't remember, whatever positive or negative effects (poison, force speed, etc.) are inflicted on Kreia affect the PC as well, and vice versa. That's an ingame effect of Force Bond.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No, actually, that's not what Force Bond does. Force Bond doesn't cause dexterity reduction due to sonic, or poison to both people. What it does is, when either Kreia or the exile uses a Force buff power (ie: speed, Battle Meditation), the other gets those effects. It's like the other person used the same Force power at the same time.