QuietDisdain Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I have never seen a game crash my computer like KOTOR2. But it's not just the random crashes, it's the ungodly horrible framerate I get in certain areas that make this game an absolute horror to play. PLEASE FIX IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ni Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 You chose not to purcahse an nVidia solution so now you shall feel the wrath of the OBSIDIAN DEVELOPERS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaglorD Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Then Obsidian shouldn't state on the box that their game runs with ATI cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Then Obsidian shouldn't state on the box that their game runs with ATI cards. What, and miss out on the opportunity to scam all of us ATI users? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Makaan Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 don't fret a patch can fix all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 don't fret a patch can fix all that <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ahh yes but is there going to be a patch? "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunTzu Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Noone knows, bc Obsidian all died from massive overdoses on their release party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy24 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 what are you guys talking about? I'm running Kotor 2 on an all-in-wonder 9600 pro, with directx 9.0c and catalyst 5.2 and i'm not getting crashes. Sure I got one, but that was because I did some stupid stuff really fast. It just takes a little bit of fooling around with, before you find your niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 It just takes a little bit of fooling around with, before you find your niche. Ahhh.. so, because we own ATI cards, we're SUPPOSED to fool around with downloading 50 different driver setups, and taking a crash course in "how to make a computer game run on a perfectly capable system running an ATI video card" - 101.. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy24 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 lol. yeah, it's unfair, but eventually, being a PC player you have to learn to deal. Once that happens, eveyrthing else falls into place, and you just get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I guess the question is why didn't they include the drivers with the install, I am sure the final CD wasn't 100% full I think they could have included at the very least a link to a good place to get drivers if not included drivers that worked for all ATI cards (that the game is suppost to support). "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T7nowhere Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I have an AWI 9700 pro Catalyst 5.1 ( I haven't gotten around to 5.2 yet) And this Game runs smoother than KotOR ever did. THere is only one module Dantooine Landing dock that some how screws with Framebuffer effects. But If I turn Framebuffer off hit ok then turn it back on again, the game runs as smooth as silk. I will admitt the game lacks certain polish. but aside from several looping dialogs the game runs fine on my system. Maybe I'm just lucky though. Perhaps the real problem is that some people would rather complian when all it requires is for the user to properly configure their Ati settings. You know that red ATI icon that opens that control panel thingy with all the buttons and switches. If your getting alot of frame loss perhaps you just need to set aa and af to app prefference in the ati CP and in game turn up AA and AF. T7nowhere's KotOR Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heliotic Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 lol. yeah, it's unfair, but eventually, being a PC player you have to learn to deal. Once that happens, eveyrthing else falls into place, and you just get used to it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sir, this is why you are what we call 'part of the problem'. I didn't have to mess around with my drivers for HL2, Doom 3, or any one of the other 'big name' games that have come out in the last 6 months. It's by no means 'standard practice' to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojai Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 You chose not to purcahse an nVidia solution so now you shall feel the wrath of the OBSIDIAN DEVELOPERS! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe it's because the XBOX has an nVidia chip for its graphics. So the code runs somewhat better on systems equip with nVidia cards. Games like Doom3 and Half-life 2 ran flawlessly on my computer (ATI card). On Dantoine, the game bugs down to 1 frame every 2 seconds...what do I do? Well, change a settings in the graphic settings and voila. Game runs normal until the next time. Those technical issues are *very* frustrating, but the game is soooo good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 You chose not to purcahse an nVidia solution so now you shall feel the wrath of the OBSIDIAN DEVELOPERS! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> runs on mine, and I'm having a lot of fun playing the game. P.S. and I didn't have to make any adjustments to my drivers or my settings. It just so happens, I'm lazy and never update my drivers. I'm still using 4.11 drivers. In fact, I rarely update drivers. I alway say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. My games all run good with 4.11 (except morrowind which has ctd issues, but I don't think that is a video driver problem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieKirby Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 You chose not to purcahse an nVidia solution so now you shall feel the wrath of the OBSIDIAN DEVELOPERS! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> runs on mine, and I'm having a lot of fun playing the game. P.S. and I didn't have to make any adjustments to my drivers or my settings. It just so happens, I'm lazy and never update my drivers. I'm still using 4.11 drivers. In fact, I rarely update drivers. I alway say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. My games all run good with 4.11 (except morrowind which has ctd issues, but I don't think that is a video driver problem) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> finally someone is getting intelligent, alot of people are saying to use 4.11 and i don't think these guys are listening. the slowdown bug accurs on drivers 4.12 and above on Kotor, so it will effect Kotor II as well, even though the Developer said all ATI Specific bugs are fixed by them or ATI. lol Well, i will find out tomorrow, whe my copy arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaglorD Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 You chose not to purcahse an nVidia solution so now you shall feel the wrath of the OBSIDIAN DEVELOPERS! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> runs on mine, and I'm having a lot of fun playing the game. P.S. and I didn't have to make any adjustments to my drivers or my settings. It just so happens, I'm lazy and never update my drivers. I'm still using 4.11 drivers. In fact, I rarely update drivers. I alway say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. My games all run good with 4.11 (except morrowind which has ctd issues, but I don't think that is a video driver problem) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I read somewhere that 4.11 has a problem with the starting video. Guess you didn't experience any issues there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platon Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 im playing with a radeon 9500 pro and have tried most drivers. Since im on telos i have about 5 frames... needless to say that its unplayable! Damn obsidian! a lot of money for an unplayable game!!! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I'm currently using Catalyst 4.11 with an ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 mb card and have no experience any problems so far. I set the AA at 4 and anistropy at 4 too and it runs smooth. AMD Athlon 64 3400+ 1GB DDR Ram Starwarsknights.com - Learning to mod - Kotor modding en espa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ni Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 The comparison between nVidia and ATI ATI Great Products Good Drivers (not w/ Linux and OS other than Windows) Weak marketing machine nVidia Good Products Great Drivers Amazing Marketing Machine Amazing Overclocking ability What I hate about ATI: The drivers What I hate about nVidia: Large cards suck up excessive amounts of power Dual Slot cooling solutions take up a PCI Slot Seriously, I have a 5950 Ultra and with an overclock, it performs better than the 9800XT on DirectX 8 applications. It is a huge card, its as large as the 6800 Ultra. That's just crazy... Atleast nVidia is making some improvements with the size. Their 6800/6800GT is a one slot card (thank god). The 6800 Ultra has a huge fan but the good thing is the level you can overclock the card to. I am running at 570/1.2 but my idle temps for the core are just about 50C. That's plain amazing. My 5950 Ultra 500/1.1 My 6800 Ultra 570/1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaglorD Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 The comparison between nVidia and ATI ATI Great Products Good Drivers (not w/ Linux and OS other than Windows) Weak marketing machine nVidia Good Products Great Drivers Amazing Marketing Machine Amazing Overclocking ability What I hate about ATI: The drivers What I hate about nVidia: Large cards suck up excessive amounts of power Dual Slot cooling solutions take up a PCI Slot Seriously, I have a 5950 Ultra and with an overclock, it performs better than the 9800XT on DirectX 8 applications. It is a huge card, its as large as the 6800 Ultra. That's just crazy... Atleast nVidia is making some improvements with the size. Their 6800/6800GT is a one slot card (thank god). The 6800 Ultra has a huge fan but the good thing is the level you can overclock the card to. I am running at 570/1.2 but my idle temps for the core are just about 50C. That's plain amazing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd bet if you overclocked the 9800XT, it'd easily outperform your 5950 Ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ni Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I'd bet if you overclocked the 9800XT, it'd easily outperform your 5950 Ultra. Well considering that the 5950 Ultra's fan is capable of exhausting a lot of heat, can definetly OC the 5950 Ultra way past the 9800XT's tolerable limits. Or atleast I hear... At idle, my 5950 runs at 35C Core When overclocked to 500/1.1, the Core is now at 40C idle Under full load, I go to 50-60C on overclock... Lets see a 9800XT try to beat that. Check out this review. AND YES I KNOW the 5950 Ultra absoultely BLOWS when running DX9 applications as can be seen from the 3DMark05 benchmark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmasteryoungy Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Man i hate this. I was so excited when it arrived at my doorstep and now all i can do is complain. I have Radeon 7500. Thats why i'm fustrated. Apparently the 4.11 drivers for ATi users work wonders but i haven't tried it. Maybe one of you guys could give it a go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 You chose not to purcahse an nVidia solution so now you shall feel the wrath of the OBSIDIAN DEVELOPERS! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> runs on mine, and I'm having a lot of fun playing the game. P.S. and I didn't have to make any adjustments to my drivers or my settings. It just so happens, I'm lazy and never update my drivers. I'm still using 4.11 drivers. In fact, I rarely update drivers. I alway say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. My games all run good with 4.11 (except morrowind which has ctd issues, but I don't think that is a video driver problem) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I read somewhere that 4.11 has a problem with the starting video. Guess you didn't experience any issues there? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> strangely, now issues with the beginning movies for the logos (unless there's some other starting video that isn't even coming up?). I just mouse click to skip those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryanne Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I'm still using 4.11 drivers lol me to.ATI radeon 9200 se runs fine.A few lil tips to help make it run smoother for you ati people.Shutdown any and all norton antivirus /firewall programs when installing the game-then when playing.Keep settings to 800x600 just like the first one.Shutdown any and all useless running background programs.Icq msn etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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