"Alarm has a much smaller AoE than magic missile -- and a lot of spells, really -- has range."
Of course, at night, magic missle's effectiveness is lessened due to the fact you can only target what you can see and darkness tends to put a damper on that - even dwarves have darkvision of 60' only; not exactly as long range as a normal magic missle.
How many adventuring companies a) travel under cover of total darkness or b) camp with no fire whatsoever?
Sure; but like I said, such lethal combat isn't that much of a common occurance in towns.
In my experience, it's a very common event.
"Now, are the things you're talking about things that you've actually seen used a lot? Or are you just theorizing that they could be used often to block magic missile?"
The problem is that you make it seem like magic missle is some type of super spell that has a habit of completely turning the tide of battle..
Quote something I stated that implied this.
Maybe I am; maybe I'm not. However, youdid say you prefer to have a magic missle type spell that can basically do the sama damage a dagger does only and repeatedly more or less. When the words fit no need to deny it is my motto.
Well, when the person tells you that the conclusion you reached from their statement is incorrect. That is, when you were audacious enough to tell me
what I believed and I told you were incorrect, maybe it's time to re-evaluate how you reach conclusions from available information.
Not to mention, I'm not the only one with this habit.
So what? You're doing it right now.
If it's so horrible to converse with me you cna always stop doing so. I'll survive. I'm sure you will to. No worries for me.
You also do this a lot. Why do you converse with people? Do you do it to learn, do you do it to "win", or do you do it for some other purpose? I'm trying to figure out what your goals are from how you carry on these conversations. In my limited observation, it seems to follow a similar pattern:
* Statement of opinion, often with the disclaimer of "Period."
* Period of somewhat even debate
* You erect strawmen, building up and tearing down arguments that other people didn't
* You get called on this behavior and tell the person they are free to not converse with you.
Do you think you'd ever like to see a discussion through to its conclusion? Do you actually think it's beneficial to a discussion to construct arguments from another person's statements that the individual did not, and would not, state on their own? How is that helpful to you or the other person? What is your goal?
Yeah, make spells lower in level. I see. Because we all know that magic missle is the equal of fireball. Neato. And, while we're at it, let's allow people to spam fireball as often as they do magic awesome. Yup, that's so cool.
I never equated those two spells, nor even implied it. I also never suggested that people should spam the equivalent of a third level fireball. What are you doing? Are you just getting desperate?
Agreed. Being able to cast spells numerous times repeatedly makes magic more special indeed.
Please cut the selective reading. I've stated: more often, less powerful, more flexible. I believe a magic user should frequently use magic. That's the purpose of their class, so I think it should be a common event. I don't think that magic users should overshadow the core competence areas of other classes. Given 3.5's current spells and their powers, I think that they should be effectively lowered in power by one or two levels. The equivalent of a magic missile
would be a second or third level spell. The equivalent of a fireball
would be a fourth or fifth level spell. Flexibility is the advantage they have, with the cost of low power and a slowly-regenerating fuel source (mana, vitality, whatever you want).
I'd like to ask you this, Volourn: do you believe that a 1st level wizard should be able to climb walls better than a 1st level rogue dedicated to the task? Because really, that's what a spell like spider climb
allows a wizard to do. The same could be said for a lot of spells. Personally, I don't like that.