kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I am expecting we will have a fully functional light saber by 6 to 8 hours in the game. Same in K1. A lightsaber, maybe. Your lightsaber, no. Remember, it seems that the first world takes 4-6 hours alone. Which begs the question: Can you get A lightsaber before you get your guys specific one. I take it Sith and such still drop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 No they won't because they will be rarer "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakron Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 The goal is to make it more challenging... that's a good thing for any RPG as involved as the KOTOR series. If everything is given to you at the beginning then what is the point? Enjoy the journey and enjoy the great rewards in the end. You know what? It does not, Jedi Counselor is not affected by it because his BAB sucks anyway as the Jedi Sentinel was/(is?) such a broken class that its BAB puts it in the same place as the Counselor, they are simply going to use other fields to be useful (skills and force powers). That leaves the Jedi Guardian that is lightsaber combat specialist and without it ... well, not a good thing, he lacks skills and force mastery to be something. Also I never liked the "you wake up naked on a cell", they tend to be anoying as crap scenarios and I had enough of then, like it or not all Jedi are intended to start with a lightsaber in the d20 system and removing is not going to be a good indication of balanced gameplay, in fact its the oposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Satasn Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I would support this game more if I saw this game fixing more flaws of the first instead of expanding them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which flaws did you want to be fixed? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He wanted the flaw in which he was thrown out of the Obsidian Office buildings for constructing a riot in which he was seen "Flailing his arms in the air shouting obscenities about how bad KOTOR was, how the game designers didn't read his mind and create "his" perfect game, and flashing his genitels at random people," ~that flaw...removed.....but it's still on the records and everyone knows about it....I saw it on Cops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 No they won't because they will be rarer <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That doesn't mean some people still don't drop them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 That wasn't me, that was my cousin tommy. Always the bad seed of the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHutt Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 If you believe in balance so much then how could you agree with your statement? If a jedi starts off in K2 with a lightsabre they'd be virtually unbeatable on Pegasus and that would ruin the game in the first hours it starts. It's not like the sentinals and consulars' powers are fully powered and working either... in terms of all 3 classes they each have they're strengths and weaknesses. There are other forms of fighting for a guardian, it's not like you'll never get a lightsabre, because you will eventually. Also I never liked the "you wake up naked on a cell", they tend to be anoying as crap scenarios and I had enough of then How do you prefer to wake up from a spaceship crash landing??? Clean and fine and you can dance around with your unbalanced lightsabre guardian? Hah... sounds like your just beating around the bush so you have something to argue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 No they won't because they will be rarer <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That doesn't mean some people still don't drop them <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe like mini boses and Sith Lords ( :D ) will but i think thats it "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 No they won't because they will be rarer <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That doesn't mean some people still don't drop them <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe like mini boses and Sith Lords ( :D ) will but i think thats it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I am also hoping that he is right on this. As well only mini-bosses and Sithlords will be using lightsabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 From what little I've been able to gather, you'll probaly encounter Sion or some other Sith Lord before you leave the first planet. I would think that he doesn't travel alone so there'd probaly be a few lightsaber around then, or atleast the components People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I am also hoping that he is right on this. As well only mini-bosses and Sithlords will be using lightsabers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Doubt that, I think we've seen pics of sith assasins using them ....but after running through the screenshots I only saw one sith assasin with a LS....so we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHutt Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Ah yes, I have also heard you encounter him on Peragus... But I also heard that he is much too powerful for you at the time being and you don't battle at that point. Whether he is just dealing with someone else or you escape his cold grasp I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 or atleast the components <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe the parts MCA was talking about are parts of your saber that the PC had taken when he was exiled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Well, they should be pick uppable be the PC then. If its seen on the enemy it should be there on their corpse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakron Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 If you believe in balance so much then how could you agree with your statement? Simple, I belive in overall class balance and not "all classes are equal". If a jedi starts off in K2 with a lightsabre they'd be virtually unbeatable on Pegasus and that would ruin the game in the first hours it starts. No, at most they would have 15 of vitality (HP) with runs out real fast against ranged attackers (at least not against a group), BAB is so low they are not going to be deflecting fire. It's not like the sentinals and consulars' powers are fully powered and working either... Except they are, a Consular strenght is their force mastery with is not reduced by a "plot device" as Sentinel strenght is his skills (that cannot be reduced at all) and not his lightsaber skills. in terms of all 3 classes they each have they're strengths and weaknesses. There are other forms of fighting for a guardian, it's not like you'll never get a lightsabre, because you will eventually. They dont get then for free, only thing Guardians have as strenght is lightsaber combat, anything else is at the expense of something (usually a feat). How do you prefer to wake up from a spaceship crash landing??? You mean in SW:KotOR? Well first we dont start as a Jedi and second we wake up on a ship with a footlocker with gear set for the class we selected. We have everything we found in the Endar Spire when we "wake up" in Taris ... There are many ways to start a game, script a container to spawn items based on class selection is not that dificult. Clean and fine and you can dance around with your unbalanced lightsabre guardian? Hah... sounds like your just beating around the bush so you have something to argue about. Only way is "unbalanced" is if the class is unbalanced or the lightsaber is unbalanced. If the Star Wars d20 allows lv1 Jedi walk around with their lightsabers AFTER the revision that means something ... expecialy when it comes from the people that CREATED the damn basic d20 system in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Ah yes, I have also heard you encounter him on Peragus... But I also heard that he is much too powerful for you at the time being and you don't battle at that point. Whether he is just dealing with someone else or you escape his cold grasp I do not know. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IGN has a video of the event. It's nothing big, but I won't say what happens, in case you want to avoid all spoilers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I never heard of this video is it pretty recent? Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I never heard of this video is it pretty recent? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, it came out with the article they released today. There was literally 6 posts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 O that one! seriously what was up with all of those? But I haven't seen it (not an IGN insider). Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 O that one! seriously what was up with all of those? But I haven't seen it (not an IGN insider). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you don't have to be, just choose the windows media player option and it streams it for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 mmm... youre very smart! :D off to watch the video! Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 mmm... youre very smart! :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I prefer "God among men" or "Alimighty", but you know, whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 mmm... youre very smart! :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I prefer "God among men" or "Alimighty", but you know, whatever <{POST_SNAPBACK}> and if you like the bears you really are! Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar_Kun Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 if lightsabers are rare they need to make some other stuff rare, from kotor's perspective everything is coated in cortosis :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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