Meshugger Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 You know, just because they aren't suppose to love doesn't mean they can't have sex. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bingo! "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jedi Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I assume genetics only increases the likelyhood of force sensitivity not a dominant factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Master D Murda Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Think of Bastila's parents, they were not Jedi but the Jedi found Bastila to be force sensitive and took her, or were given, for her to be trained as a Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Nole Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Post 100 for me Hahahahaha 'bout time. Sorry had to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demigod Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Since when did love have to be the only reason to procreate children? You don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 if the force can really be past on genetically... why do the sith not bread like hell then? would make sens wouldn't it? they don't care for the jedi- rules and they want to destroy the jedi. if they would have lots of children there chances would be much better.(the only sith- lord known to have children is Darth Vader!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 if the force can really be past on genetically... why do the sith not breed like hell then? would make sens wouldn't it? they don't care for the jedi- rules and they want to destroy the jedi. if they would have lots of children there chances would be much better.(the only sith- lord known to have children is Darth Vader!) (typo edited by me) Hehehe... gives the Starforge new potential “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarjahurmaaja. Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I really hope KotOR II won't have any more of these "like Death Star, but BIGGER!" machines. It's getting awfully ridiculous. 9/30 -- NEVER FORGET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaesun Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Is it not possible that the midichlorians are inherent within some of the various species in the galaxy, but on occasion, the midichlorian count is "high" in some offspring, and if that child shows some force sensitivisy, they ship them off to Jedi camp? I'd assume that would be the case. Not the Jedi being an exclusive midichlorian breeding pool. heh Maybe the point is the Jedi Council FEARS Jedi breeding, which could end up making a SUPAR JEDI that quite possibly could be a really bad thing? Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 so why don't the dark jedi breed like hell then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelfiredragon Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I think this thread has lost all valid reference to kotor II and should be dropped into the rancor pit. lock it plz Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakron Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I posted the EU anwer to the question and then it was pretty much ignored. It says a lot about certain Star Wars fans ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 so why was the "jedi cannot love" - thing invented? to reduce the number of those who want to become Jedi? and why is Bastila not allowed to love Revan than? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTORFanactic Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Think about it, if Revan and Bastila hav a kid, they get an emotional attachment to it. If Revan or Bastila, or the kid for that matter, is killed by say, a sith. The survivors out of the 3, will most likely seek vengeance, which will evetually lead to the darkside. If u hav any of those 3 darkside, especially Revan, it wont be good for the jedi will it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarjahurmaaja. Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 So what you're saying is that jedi's are not allowed to love because they can't handle loss? What kind of mentally unstable wrecks are they anyways, and who the hell ever let these people in on the Force business? kthxbye 9/30 -- NEVER FORGET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTORFanactic Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Would u not want to take revnge on the guy who killed a family member of urs, especially if it is ur son/daughter/wife/husband/father/mother. I problably would. I aint sure u read my earlier post properly but ifu did, u may hav misuderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarjahurmaaja. Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 "Would u not want to take revnge on the guy who killed a family member of urs, especially if it is ur son/daughter/wife/husband/father/mother." If I were a spiritualistic monk/hippie with Super Powers and awful lot of responsibilities? No. 9/30 -- NEVER FORGET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTORFanactic Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Lets not forget jedi hav feelings to and they aint just spirtualist monks. They r also diplomats and warriors (peacekeepers for the most part). I mean Bastila showed that jedi hav real feelings with her mother issues (and if u do the romance angle with her as Revan male), and what about Jhuhani and Jolee (i know he is a neutral jedi). Then there is Anakin Skywalker, and Luke Skywalker aswell (Anakin marrying Padme, Luke marrying Mara Jade) My point is if family members if murdered will always cause people to be angry, even jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarjahurmaaja. Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Of course they're going to be upset. Sh!t happening isn't a very good reason to abandon everything you believe in, however. Someone who does that shouldn't be trained as a jedi, because he doesn't have what it takes to be a one. 9/30 -- NEVER FORGET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nur Ab Sal Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Force may be channeled through breeding but Force itself is mystical power that balances the Universe. It can choose someone to sensitive to it. So bloodlines are only one way to get the force. Love issue is simple. Not in all times jedi weren't allowed to love and in KOTOR times according to EU material jedi were allowed to marry - like nomi sunrider or Sylvar. Devs screwed things and mixed Eras. They actually showed us jedi ethics from Episode I TPM when order was rotten. I wouldn't believe in all what video game tells you cause more important are official EU sources. Remember about it non-fans. HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTORFanactic Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 (edited) Of course they're going to be upset. Sh!t happening isn't a very good reason to abandon everything you believe in, however. Someone who does that shouldn't be trained as a jedi, because he doesn't have what it takes to be a one. True, true, but even jedi masters could hav trouble controlling emotions that strong. Anakin got training, and never controled his emotions to well, yet he still brought the force back into balance. Luke was never taught to control his emotion by ObiWan, he had to learn himself, and he still became a jedi master. Revan and Bastila were sent on the quest for the starforge both as padawans. Bastila with less training than most would hav for a mission of this importance, and Revan will little at all, and certainly no training to control his emotions. If the romance angle between these 2 is in KOTOR2, would the jedi coucil hav forced them to be taught to press there emotions deep down, or since it was so far along, would they hav left them to there own devices. (Of course the romance is only for male Revan and Bastila) Edited September 16, 2004 by KOTORFanactic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarjahurmaaja. Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 You know, being a Star Wars fan doesn't mean you like EU. 9/30 -- NEVER FORGET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 This is silly, I thought that Jedi were found, in Episode one, it is said that young people with a talent are encoraged to be Jedi, Anakin being a slave on Tatooine was overlooked. I see the whole Jedi thing being like that of a priest, a child is found from two non jedi parents, (like bastillas parents) and encoraged to be a Jedi, they give up all relationships and spend their life fighting for the greater good. They are not spirtual monks, hidden away learning to be at one with naturre, they are more like priests vicors and samaritans. They have to be there for people who need them and go and help those in need. they have to love everything and everybody, but not in an intermate way. I think of the Jedi as being the UN or Red Cross, intergalactic peace keepers who put 100% of themselves into their jobs. What parent wouldnt want to pack their child up and send them of to Jedi camp. I always thought this was the idea of Darth Vador, The force is Good but also cold and unimotionable, and in the end Anakin prooves that Love and feeling are the greater good, when he puts the life of his son over all the power of the dark side, it wasnt reasoning in the end that difeated the dark jedi but emotion something the old jedi ways frowned apon. but who knows, apart from Lucas himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarjahurmaaja. Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 "True, true, but even jedi masters could hav trouble controlling emotions that strong." Says who? And besides, I don't see lightsabers being banned just because some retard might cut off his own limbs with it. "Luke was never taught to control his emotion by ObiWan, he had to learn himself, and he still became a jedi master." I don't really see what this has to do with the subject at hand. 9/30 -- NEVER FORGET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTORFanactic Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 (edited) Says who? And besides, I don't see lightsabers being banned just because some retard might cut off his own limbs with it. I think u missed the point. Jedi masters hav feelings, despite keeping them in check extremly well. I didnt say nowt bout sabers being banned. I don't really see what this has to do with the subject at hand. The point is that Luke had to learn himself to control his emotions, based on the newer jedi teachings of love being banned. He still fell in love with Mara Jade. So perhaps the jedi council from episode1 onwards were perhaps a little short sited about love, only seeing its path to the darkside, and not how it can be lightside aswell. Plus u dont seemed to hav mentioned anything on the Revan and Bastila bit i put in my last post. I think i got u there eh. Edited September 16, 2004 by KOTORFanactic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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