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...or will it be Win 10.5? Win 21? YourDesktopBelongsToUs? Or TheOSFormallyKnownAsWindows? 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2021/06/14/microsoft-in-surprise-move-to-kill-windows-10-in-2025-new-version-coming-soon/

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2 hours ago, kirottu said:

Is this my fault? I just moved to win 10 like half a year ago.

Yeah, I literally *just* moved to Windows 10 a few months ago after building my new PC. It's a special cut-down stable version of Windows 10 with only security updates enabled called Windows 10 LTSC, but I did finally do it.

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24 minutes ago, Wormerine said:

I actually just recently paid for Win10, as I used freeupdate on my laptop. but OMGGGGGGGG THE WINDOWS 11 HAVE ROUNDED CORNERS. TAKE MY MONEYS!

I thought you were serious at first until your edit. Although they're not the end of the world, I really do hate rounded edges. Windows 11 has been cancelled.

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How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart.

In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.

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Surprised no Linux user popping in here like a vegan to let us know they use it 😛 

As for Win11 and me, it is what it is, wonder what else MS will needlessly change.

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...I don't like the centered taskbar, although hopefully you'd be able to change it.
...they will really push MS account login and some stuff can't be used/accessed without it (altho most of that I wouldn't care about/use myself - you can still make a local account to install/most use).
...I'll never understand why some ppl get excited/aggravated re: design elements like rounded corners and window-opening animations as if it's newsworthy updating.
...he does address the possibility it's all an elaborate fake at the video end, and/or ofc even if not, it could change before release.

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18 hours ago, LadyCrimson said:

...I'll never understand why some ppl get excited/aggravated re: design elements like rounded corners and window-opening animations as if it's newsworthy updating.

I don't think I ever really got excited/aggravated by windows. As to why talk about Windows-asthetic choices - because it is how I differenciate one Windows from another as a casual user. I am sure there are much much more important differences, but frankly I am not likely to notice much change, beside how start menu and windows looks like (plus having to re-learn how to find various options that is always a rather frustrating process)

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They are pushing the unified devices OS again with more focus on touch... We'll see how it works out for them this time around. I suspect that they will try to push the Windows phone again soon.

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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications
(Link also has the list of "feature-specific requirements" and deprecation/removals.

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...I'm wondering if this is going to feel "steep" to a lot of business. eg, will they switch.  Of course, lots of business don't switch windows versions until much later anyway (like many home consumers...) so I suppose MS has already taken that type of thing into account.

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The question most important to me: will there be an LTSC or equivalent version of Windows 11? At this point, I don't think I'll run anything that isn't LTSC on my personal devices due to how ridiculously pushy Microsoft has gotten about stupid crap in the non-LTSC versions. I did hear they're releasing another (final?) LTSC branch of Windows 10 sometime later this year, and it's about time too, since the last one was in late 2018. Hoping they didn't do anything dumb with that...

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How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart.

In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.

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20 hours ago, LadyCrimson said:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications
(Link also has the list of "feature-specific requirements" and deprecation/removals.

win11-req.jpg


...I'm wondering if this is going to feel "steep" to a lot of business. eg, will they switch.  Of course, lots of business don't switch windows versions until much later anyway (like many home consumers...) so I suppose MS has already taken that type of thing into account.

Needing an MS account is irksome.

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Home for Windows 10 is like, the free edition. You can't even use Group Policy Editor on Home. You get what you pay for. ...On the other hand, this is undoubtedly just further pushing Windows to eventually drop local accounts outside of specialized business editions (e.g. LTSC) at some point altogether, so I guess I shouldn't be so blase about it.

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How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart.

In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.

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I think a lot of people, even with systems built a couple years ago, may not be "ready" for Win11.  At least from reading around on forums.  There are supposedly steps that some can do to workaround requirements (whether it will still work on full version vs. that leaked version, who knows) but ...

Some people just need to tweak their BIOS settings I guess because some of those things aren't turned on by default ... that might be my case too.  I haven't checked and don't care.  For myself it'll be like Win7-Win10 ... if I feel like getting Win11 three or fiveyears from now, I'll just build a new rig dedicated to it. 

To be honest tho, while I still love hardware porn (haha) in terms of actually using PC's - I'm starting to wonder how much I really care about desktop building in the future. I care less and less about gaming/keeping up with gaming, or doing anything with PC's in general, outside of internet browsing/multimedia, and a console, TV, or tablet can do that.   >.>

4 hours ago, Malcador said:

Needing an MS account is irksome.

Yeah ... I don't like that either, even if I wouldn't use most things that (right now) would absolutely require logging into it (I haven't touched MS-Store or any "app" even once). But it's a hint that at some point they're going to want you to be logged into MS account 24/7. 

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Can't see a MS account as being a massive issue by itself (though see below), the big issue would be a constant internet being required (which isn't). Then again, I already have a MS account so it literally isn't an issue for me, so easy to say that.

The supported processor list actually starts at Intel 8000 series/ Zen+, not a 1 Ghz dual core listed due to the TPM requirement. Sure, there are workarounds, but the average user isn't going to muck about with their BIOS to enable an obscure option as they've never done anything in BIOS before and have no idea what those arcanely named options mean.

They don't actually need TPM to be a requirement, unless they don't want to sell windows in Russia or China any more (since it's backdoored extensively by the NSA) and don't want adoption by corporates. Maybe another run at getting Secure Boot implemented, especially with the account requirement as well?

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4 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

Home for Windows 10 is like, the free edition. You can't even use Group Policy Editor on Home. You get what you pay for. ...On the other hand, this is undoubtedly just further pushing Windows to eventually drop local accounts outside of specialized business editions (e.g. LTSC) at some point altogether, so I guess I shouldn't be so blase about it.

Ah right, thought it was all versions.  Just another password for me to forget when I need it, heh. 

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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