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2 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Their donuts are pretty terrible though. 

Are you kidding? The Krispy Kreme glazed doughnut is the greatest donut ever invented in the history of man! Especially when it’s hot. It literally melts on the tongue. All other donuts are just chewy bread with crap slathered all over them!

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6 minutes ago, Guard Dog said:

Are you kidding? The Krispy Kreme glazed doughnut is the greatest donut ever invented in the history of man! Especially when it’s hot. It literally melts on the tongue. All other donuts are just chewy bread with crap slathered all over them!

Reported for terrible taste.

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Sorry Gftd you struck out again. Bay area UBI experiment excludes white residents

Edit: I should clarify. This experiments privately funded, they can give money to anybody they want. IDGAF about the plan deliberately selecting black participants. The whole point of this post was just to tweak our friend in Illinois

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"The man of virtuous soul commands not, nor obeys. Power, like a desolating pestilence, pollutes whate'er it touches; and obedience, bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth, makes slaves of men, and of the human frame a mechanized automaton."

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9 minutes ago, ArtistFormerlyKnownasKP said:

Reported for terrible taste.

I feel like I don’t even know who you people are anymore! 

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16 minutes ago, Guard Dog said:

Are you kidding? The Krispy Kreme glazed doughnut is the greatest donut ever invented in the history of man! Especially when it’s hot. It literally melts on the tongue. All other donuts are just chewy bread with crap slathered all over them!

Perhaps they save the good stuff for the USA, because the ones I've tried up here are nothing to write home about.  The best donut I've had was in local bakery, which is what you'd expect, I suppose.

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8 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Perhaps they save the good stuff for the USA, because the ones I've tried up here are nothing to write home about.  The best donut I've had was in local bakery, which is what you'd expect, I suppose.

I'm not much one for donuts to begin with (indeed, I haven't had any for years - just not my thing), but my experiences with Krispy Kreme in particular have been less than positive - I swear they use the softest, sweetest, soggiest dough possible for their donuts. What does it even matter what they taste like when the texture is so bad?

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16 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Perhaps they save the good stuff for the USA, because the ones I've tried up here are nothing to write home about.  The best donut I've had was in local bakery, which is what you'd expect, I suppose.

Well that goes without saying. The mom & pop operations are going to outperform  the big chains every time. 

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Not every time. Have tried some bakeries that are lucky they were mafia fronts. :lol:

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50 minutes ago, Guard Dog said:

I feel like I don’t even know who you people are anymore! 

In terms of chains, Shipleys stomps Krispy Kreme. 

Lee's Fried Chicken and Donuts was the best, but it's gone now.

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2 hours ago, ArtistFormerlyKnownasKP said:

In terms of chains, Shipleys stomps Krispy Kreme. 

Lee's Fried Chicken and Donuts was the best, but it's gone now.

Never heard of Shipleys. I am intrigued.

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1 hour ago, Guard Dog said:

Never heard of Shipleys. I am intrigued.

It's from Houston, their glazed donuts are almost always hot and not nearly the sugar bomb of Krispy Kreme. Kolaches aren't really that great and their lineup is pretty basic so if you want weird **** you'll have to look elsewhere. Still the best chain donut place though, maybe Hurts beats it but it's also 3x the price.

Nothing will beat red velvet and mexican chocolate donuts with fried chicken though. NOTHING.

1 hour ago, Amentep said:

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9 hours ago, Guard Dog said:

Sorry Gftd you struck out again. Bay area UBI experiment excludes white residents

Edit: I should clarify. This experiments privately funded, they can give money to anybody they want. IDGAF about the plan deliberately selecting black participants. The whole point of this post was just to tweak our friend in Illinois

What an article to really get me going around blatant and unacceptable  anti-white bias if it was true

Thanks for clarifying  8)

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17 hours ago, BruceVC said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/25/fact-check-false-claim-cnns-boulder-coverage-used-altered-image/7000497002/

@Skarpen

I read your post in the Jokes section and initially I was annoyed that CNN would make such a claim but it turns out that image was altered and CNN never reported on the Colorado shooting like that 

I am not sure if you know that? When we see blatant anti-white sentiment and racist  comments towards white people  its important for those of us who are concerned with these comments that we focus on the real offensive comments and not those that are made up and fabricated  8)

As you noticed it was in the Joke section. 

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@Gorth

https://culturedarm.com/the-crimean-referendums-of-1991-and-1994/

I never forgot to do that research on the debate we were having around the legitimate  or illegitimate  objectives of Crimea to join Russia. I found several articles that explained things in an interesting but overly complicated way but this discussion is complex and has several historical developments to it that make the final outcome and its legal validity nuanced

I posted the link above for you to reference as I found it to be overall fair and accurate. I dont really have the appetite to have this debate again at the moment but in the interests of consistency I wanted to stick to what I said I was going to do and get back to you after I did some research 

In summary from the article I agree with you that despite the 1954  decision of Khrushchev giving Crimea to Ukraine their was a rejection of what the Crimean  autonomous parliament wanted from Kiev from 1991 .  So yes you can make a valid argument that Crimea should have been able to join Russia but this process should have been  managed by the current Ukraine government and Russia together in a legitimate vote to ensure credibility....the annexing of Crimea was done in a unilateral way and that is not the way you achieve meaningful independence. But you are right IMO on several points you raised 

To summarize my new view on this from the link

Gorbachev’s new Union Treaty was never implemented: Ukraine couldn’t agree its terms, and by late 1991, the Soviet Union was dissolving. On 1 December, Ukraine held a referendum and Ukrainians voted for independence. This essentially marked the end of the Soviet Union. 54% of Crimean voters opted for Ukrainian independence, with the turnout in Crimea placed at 60%. Thus Ukraine became independent, and Crimea remained part of the newly independent Ukraine, retaining its autonomous status. Throughout 1992, the Crimean parliament made gestures towards full Crimean independence, but really sought to secure only greater autonomy from Kiev.

Perhaps more controversially – and as the refworld.org link details – in May 1992 the Crimean parliament established a Crimean constitution, and in September-October 1993 it established the post of President of Crimea. But in early 1994, after a polarising election campaign, Crimeans elected as their President a strongly pro-Russian candidate, Yuriy Meshkov. A power struggle between the Ukrainian parliament and the Crimean parliament commenced. Another Crimean referendum in March 1994 asked three questions: ‘1.3 million voted, 78.4% of whom supported greater autonomy from Ukraine, 82.8% supported allowing dual Russian-Ukrainian citizenship, and 77.9% favored giving Crimean presidential decrees the force of law’. Yet after more political turbulence – with the Crimean parliament voting to oust Meshkov in September – in March 1995 the Ukrainian parliament unilaterally abolished the post of President of Crimea, and scrapped the Crimean constitution. The Crimean parliament was forced to define a new constitution, which the Ukrainian parliament finally ratified in 1998.

So when the interim Ukrainian government today talks about the Crimean parliament’s lack of legislative power – when it comes to appointing a Prime Minister, and when it comes to calling a referendum – there is an argument that this power was taken from Crimeans by Kiev in an underhand, undemocratic, if not entirely illegitimate manner back in 1995.

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8 minutes ago, Skarpen said:

As you noticed it was in the Joke section. 

Yes I did, I just wasnt sure if it was a joke or you posted it their because it was a real but absurd development 

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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1 minute ago, Darkpriest said:

First casualties?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-28/h-m-stores-shut-by-chinese-landlords-as-xinjiang-backlash-grows

I wonder when is their investors call and how they will explain losing the market. 

 

Its fine and this is to be expected. The world is not going to keep quiet about the blatant and consistent hypocrisy of the CCP around its rejection of human rights and abuse of different ethnic groups in Chinese controlled territories like the mass rape and re-education camps that the Uyghurs Muslim community are subjected to 

If they want to close down stores and shops like H&M let them, I have an British uncle who works for a USA  hedge fund that operates in China and I can guarantee you they wont ban this type of investment because its real money 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/global-hedge-fund-investors-with-24812-billion-prefer-asia/ar-BB1eOLUX

But the CCP have never understood and never will the principle of freedom of speech and how it irrefutably matters to most countries and this will never change. So we are not going to stop criticizing the CCP unethical and unacceptable attempts to control the worlds narrative and views of their own domestic policies 

 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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This is something that is very painful to every Polish citizen that have a family members who were killed during WWII for helping Polish citizens of Jewish heritage. Which is the case for many including myself. 

Some uneducated journalist tried to score some points by spitting on Poland trying to blame them for the death of 3 millions Jews during WWII. 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-historians-under-attack-for-exploring-polands-role-in-the-holocaust/amp

The article is already redacted due to pressure from various sides. 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/auschwitz-museum-damage-yorker-article-76756245

https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/jewish-organisation-ajc-says-poland-not-to-blame-for-3-million-holocaust-victims-20850

The author herself already tried to flip flop that she didn't wrote what she wrote:

https://m.facebook.com/gessen/posts/10158485093519398

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Well, those investors keep their mouth shut, and make money. 

I imagine, that you'd quickly find out, that if a head of some large fund would utter such statements, their ability to run money in that region would be severly hampered. 

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1 minute ago, Skarpen said:

This is something that is very painful to every Polish citizen that have a family members who were killed during WWII for helping Polish citizens of Jewish heritage. Which is the case for many including myself. 

Some uneducated journalist tried to score some points by spitting on Poland trying to blame them for the death of 3 millions Jews during WWII. 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-historians-under-attack-for-exploring-polands-role-in-the-holocaust/amp

The article is already redacted due to pressure from various sides. 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/auschwitz-museum-damage-yorker-article-76756245

https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/jewish-organisation-ajc-says-poland-not-to-blame-for-3-million-holocaust-victims-20850

The author herself already tried to flip flop that she didn't wrote what she wrote:

https://m.facebook.com/gessen/posts/10158485093519398

It doesn't fit the role, that white catholics could have been opressed, butchered, etc.

The narrative is, they are all bad, and are now too conservative. 

People forget or are ignorant to the fact, that Poland prior to being wiped from the maps and later back in early 20s was one of the most tolerant countries, where jews (largest diaspora in Europe?) , muslims (Tatars) , christians (catholics, orthodox, and portestants to the lesser extent) etc. would live in peace and believed to be part of Poland. 

It's a shame, that in the years leading to WW2 regular people got convinced that all their woes were caused by those wealth hoarding jews. This view was shared among wider wetern populace though prior to the WW2. Unfortunately that led to some despicable acts, which we should stigmatize and remember about, but it would be a great injustice to claim, that this was a most common attitude. Quite the contrary... 

Jews back then, were like white straight men these days. They are evil manipulators, stealing our wealth and keeping us from all the utopian dreams.

 

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4 minutes ago, Darkpriest said:

Well, those investors keep their mouth shut, and make money. 

I imagine, that you'd quickly find out, that if a head of some large fund would utter such statements, their ability to run money in that region would be severly hampered. 

Yes you right, you can keep quiet about the CCP human rights abuses or raise valid criticism but then face the risk of being banned in China. Each company must decide for themselves and the decision to criticize the CCP should be based on  how this will impact the revenue stream of the company. The H&M link raises that only 5 % of their global business is from China so in that case its good to stand by your principles and raise issues with how the CCP governs the country

I asked my uncle what is the hedge funds views about the CCP and do they criticize the policies. He said its a global standard within his company to never criticize any government in any country  they operate in because they are a financial institution and they stay out of internal politics because this can be seen as bias and then impact the ability of the fund to operate

I understand this and support this view because political commentary should generally be made by governments and private sector listed companies should stay out of it because they not suppose to be politically aligned 

 

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"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Darkpriest said:

 

Jews back then, were like white straight men these days. They are evil manipulators, stealing our wealth and keeping us from all the utopian dreams.

 

:grin: well said and QFT but we still must support hot twerking hip-hop models 

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"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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