Lampros Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Or are they unrelated? One reason I don't want to even try Barbarian is because I always want to know how much health I left. Also, does the Frenzy from Amra also prevents you from seeing your health? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Unrelated. All Frenzy effects conceal your Health. 1 "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waski Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, AndreaColombo said: Unrelated. All Frenzy effects conceal your Health. ???? Isn't only berserker frenzy like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Galad Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Normal Barbarian Frenzy doesn't conceal health 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Whoa, really? Well, then...! "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, AndreaColombo said: Unrelated. All Frenzy effects conceal your Health. Sigh; and no way to counter it? What a stupid mechanic. 2 hours ago, Elric Galad said: Normal Barbarian Frenzy doesn't conceal health Really?! I've been avoiding the class like the plague for nothing then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elohinen Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I think in Poe1 frenzy always concealed health, but in Deadfire it only applies to berserkers? You could always pick a "race" that has an ability that activates when bloodied, like humans or fire godlike and the barbarian class itself has the blooded ability that activates after getting well, bloodied and you can also spot it after the ability unflinching de-activates. Assuming one picks either one, naturally. In any case, if you go berserker get the ring Voidward (it reduces raw damage taken by -25%) asap; it's over at Radiant Court in Dunnage. Might not wanna go overboard with might in character creation either, cuz it increases the self-damage from frenzy. Also if you play in rtwp, one can always program the ai to use healing abilities when at say, bloodied or near death. 1 "Let's drop the moral posturing, shall we? We both know there's no altruism in this pursuit. Your reckless indignation led you here - I counted on it. There's no shame in it, Raziel - revenge is motivation enough. At least it's honest. Hate me, but do it honestly." - Kain, Scion of Balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 In Deadfire only Berserker-Frenzy does conceal health, correct. All other Barbarians don't have that drawback with their Frenzy ability. 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carys Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 In turn based, it's not an issue at all. You can manually track the berserker's HPs by noting, on paper, what he has when he frenzies and then use the combat log to see how much damage he took if he is attacked. and update your paper note. In RTwP, that might still be possible, but would be much harder I would think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazuya246 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Solutions: 1) Put on auto-pause when bloodied/near death 2) Follow the combat log. 3) Activate Robust or heal regularly 4) Build your barb to be tanky enough that by the time frenzy runs out you won't be near death. 5) Play moon or fire godlike 6)Just yolo lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Play single class pick Vengeful Defeat, use Effort, Effigy's Husk and Mantle of the Seven Storms and roll with it. Addendum: I wrote about that several times now so I hope I'm not boring anybody but if you export a character with Ring of Reset you can have two. If you stack them in the stash they will refill their charges, giving you 3 knockouts+resurrection without suffering from an injury per encounter. Cheesy of course but it can be fun to play such a suicidal character then. You know with Leaping in, having Barbaric Retaliation, using Heart of Fury and triggering the occasional Vengeful Defeat + Effort AoE attack + Mantle AoE attack. 2 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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