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Of course, the next thing we can expect is that Trump will still try to claim victory... After he has his name legally changed to Joe Biden...

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7 minutes ago, Raithe said:

Of course, the next thing we can expect is that Trump will still try to claim victory... After he has his name legally changed to Joe Biden...

to be fair, this will be the first time since he were elected that the alternative facts approach failed trump. convincing his base that he actually won the election will not be enough to save trump. being a "counter-puncher" and fighting won't be enough to win an election even if trump is wrong. at the moment, trump is fighting math. 

am thinking next stage is blame others. sure, trump is current blaming democrats, but that is part o' the gaslighting effort. once all the lawsuits fail, trump will start blaming those in his more immediate orbit.

and then he is gonna burn everything. 

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Probably my favourite election celebration flag:

 

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10 minutes ago, Agiel said:

Probably my favourite election celebration flag:

 

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our only issue with the nato flag is it reminds us o' the bonnie blue flag.

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1 hour ago, Darkpriest said:

To whom? And why? 

It's a call to WHITE GENOCIDE

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Guys really, be a little empathic with Donald J. Trump here. He caught COVID-19, lost his job and is about to be evicted from his home... a tragic story if I ever heard one!

 

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No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.

 

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5 minutes ago, ShadySands said:

I'm sure there's some low income housing in the suburbs that he can qualify for

When he said bad people would go to the suburbs if he lost, he was talking about himself.

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7 minutes ago, ShadySands said:

I'm sure there's some low income housing in the suburbs that he can qualify for

we don't particular like trump, but there is some horrible landlords in maryland.

as an aside, and for historical perspective on this auspicious day...

charles curtis

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Trump is the first president in over 150 years not to have any kind of pets (...animals that aren't humans, I mean, before anyone cracks any jokes) at the White House. There is apparently a widely held belief that Trump hates dogs (his frequent use of comparing people he doesn't like to them certainly does nothing to help dispel that), so at the very least, @Guard Dog should be happy to know that there will be canines in and at the White House once again, :p. Though I wonder...if Trump hated dogs, was it because dogs hated him? 🤔

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2 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said:

Apparently, Trump is the first president in over 150 years not to have any kind of pets

Not true, Eric Trump is actually three possums in a trench coat.

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Fox News host Tucker Carlson says Biden and Harris want Americans 'drinking Starbucks every day from now until forever' in a baseless monologue about uniformity

 

My dad was a Reagan conservative and even in his years of retirement it wasn't a day until he got his triple-shot espresso from the Starbucks a block away from his house.

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306*? The same amount Trump earned, coincidentally? I think he lost a couple from faithless electors, so it officially went down as 304, but he earned 306.

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3 minutes ago, Hurlshot said:

Biden is going to end up with 80 million votes and 303 EC votes. It may have been dramatic and all that, but it's a pretty convincing victory. 

hmmm.

295 or 306 appear likely for the ec.

georgia is trending up for biden and based on the kinda votes remaining, there is no reason to expect biden to lose more than 9k votes when is more likely he gains.

16 ec votes for georgia. 295 ec for biden if he wins georgia and pennsylvania and pennsylvania looks like a near forgone conclusion at this point. 

az however is a different matter. with ~100k votes remaining in az, trump is needing close a gap o' 18610 votes. for the remaining votes, trump needs average 56 or 57% as a few votes will necessarily go to a 3p candidate so is not as if when trump gets 56 then biden gets 44. this am, near 50k votes were announced by maricopa and the breakdown were 56.3% trump and 40.7% biden.

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maricopa should announce the results o' 'bout 38k votes tomorrow morning at 11am... or such would be what we would guess if tomorrow were not sunday. am not sure if their schedule is getting changed for sunday. 

if we were to bet $20 right now on who wins az, we would drop $20 for trump. 

if biden wins arizona pennsylvania and georgia, that gets him to 306.

*shrug*

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as an aside, if not for the fact pennsylvania makes all this moot, people would be going absolute crazy over what is happening in arizona. am thinking both ap and fox called az for biden and as we noted earlier in the thread, based on current numbers, we would bet trump wins.

given how close is the numbers, is probable  none o' us knows who won az 'til tuesday as a few election day ballots need be cured with a deadline o' tuesday. 12k votes?

also, in case anybody is wondering, we did double check and the biggest remaining vote drop for az will indeed be tomorrow, but it will be at 3pm pacific. am assuming maricopa announces near 38k votes tomorrow afternoon.

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ps is likely a majority o' the 12k is not cured and won't count, but...

 

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3 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

Trump is the first president in over 150 years not to have any kind of pets (...animals that aren't humans, I mean, before anyone cracks any jokes) at the White House. There is apparently a widely held belief that Trump hates dogs (his frequent use of comparing people he doesn't like to them certainly does nothing to help dispel that), so at the very least, @Guard Dog should be happy to know that there will be canines in and at the White House once again, :p. Though I wonder...if Trump hated dogs, was it because dogs hated him? 🤔

His cabinet members were his pets.

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13 hours ago, Hurlshot said:

In 20 years, we will look back at this as the greatest turnout in election history. That is the type of stuff that makes it into the history books, not the bickering and ridiculous claims.

Some of you really need to chill on the whole doom and gloom. This is an great time to be alive. We are witnessing an amazing election, and thanks to our modern world we are all going to get a deep dive into the inner workings of all sorts of different voting districts across the country. We are in the midst of a global pandemic, and yet we've managed to have surprising stability across the economy and the government. Do you really think any of the stuff currently going on is WORSE than what happened in the 20th century? Do you really think this compares to the Great Depression, the Spanish Flu, and 2 World Wars? Let's get some perspective, people.  

None of those events threatened our democracy with a populist autocrat, so you'll excuse me if I view it with a somewhat different perspective.

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