ComradeMaster 296 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Ironically, the only games I liked that were companion based were the games that had 108 companions to choose from. 1 "China’s success on the world stage benefits the Chinese people. America’s success on the world stage comes at the expense of the American people." -Caitlin Johnstone Link to post Share on other sites
Vaeliorin 198 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 11:53 AM, KaineParker said: Now that I think of it, the Pawns in Dragons Dogma. It'd be one thing if they were just blank slates, but not being able to get hybrid classes really sucks. I have 250 hr in Kingmaker, of which at least 100 (in all likelihood 200) is having the game running while I do other things. The game is ok, but the love some folks have for it is headscratching. It's really weird to see people who hate turn-based games praise it, given that it's built on a turn-based ruleset jammed into a real time chasis. I think Deadfire is better in every way, but I guess my taste is weird. I'd probably not be very fond of Kingmaker if I had played it in real-time (I'm not a huge fan of RTWP) but the fast majority of my time with it (which is over 600 hours...though a lot of that was just playing around with different builds to see how viable they were) was with the turn-based mod. I generally am fine with any companions, the only one I can recall that I really disliked is Vivienne in DA: I. I also wasn't super fond of Durance. I don't think he was a bad character, really, but I don't think he should have been a companion (because why would you keep around someone who was so unpleasant other than that he was a companion?). He'd have been better off as an NPC who just followed you around/showed up places where you were and gave you grief. Though, maybe I'm just missing something about the genius of making a companion who's intentionally unlikable? I'm almost sure there was a companion in another game that I just hated instantly, but I honestly can't recall who it was or even what game it was in, so...maybe that's a good thing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
StupidSeal 14 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Skazz said: Now, where's my favorite gif— The truth. Link to post Share on other sites
Wormerine 4,350 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Vaeliorin said: Though, maybe I'm just missing something about the genius of making a companion who's intentionally unlikable? Durance is fascinating though! Better a disturbing but interesting companion, then daft, bland, generic bloke. JOIN THE CHURCH OF DURANCE! Edited October 1, 2020 by Wormerine 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Theonlygarby 115 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Vaeliorin said: I'd probably not be very fond of Kingmaker if I had played it in real-time (I'm not a huge fan of RTWP) but the fast majority of my time with it (which is over 600 hours...though a lot of that was just playing around with different builds to see how viable they were) was with the turn-based mod. I generally am fine with any companions, the only one I can recall that I really disliked is Vivienne in DA: I. I also wasn't super fond of Durance. I don't think he was a bad character, really, but I don't think he should have been a companion (because why would you keep around someone who was so unpleasant other than that he was a companion?). He'd have been better off as an NPC who just followed you around/showed up places where you were and gave you grief. Though, maybe I'm just missing something about the genius of making a companion who's intentionally unlikable? I'm almost sure there was a companion in another game that I just hated instantly, but I honestly can't recall who it was or even what game it was in, so...maybe that's a good thing. Blasphemy! You can tell him to go away. I think story wise the reason to keep him around is that he knows a lot about the history of the dyrwood and he also knows you're a watcher the second he sees you. He is very useful to someone who knows nothing about his/her current situation. He is an ass though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LadyCrimson 4,104 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 My favorite companions are the ones that kill everything for me so I don't have to do anything. 3 2 “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to post Share on other sites
Gorth 3,210 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 3:45 AM, Humanoid said: Ian for trapping me in corners and spraying me in the back with an SMG. This... so much this! Also, some of the companions in Jagged Alliance 2 with some of their personality quirks. Just deciding they don't like the company, packing up and leaving. Where is the professional pride of mercenaries??? Edit: Honorable mention to Kai Leng, even if as mentioned above he wasn't a companion, the entire concept just felt "stupid" (and yes, just like the Malak fight on board the Leviathan in Kotor, it feels stupid beating the **** out of your enemy and wiping the floor with their bloody carcass, just for the game suddenly deciding that you have been overruled and declared the loser of the fight after trashing Kai Leng/Malak) 2 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to post Share on other sites
bringingyouthefuture 296 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Every single character from FFX ... even the character you play, Spoiler the only good part was when he dies. I agree about Tristan from Kingmaker. Also, Allistair from Dragon Age ... what a sap! 1 “How do you 'accidentally' kill a nobleman in his own mansion?" "With a knife in the chest. Or, rather, a pair of knives in the chest...” The Final Empire, Mistborn Trilogy Link to post Share on other sites
StupidSeal 14 Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 5:11 AM, LadyCrimson said: My favorite companions are the ones that kill everything for me so I don't have to do anything. Wait you actually like in game companions? Strange. Link to post Share on other sites
Labadal 1,696 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 No character is more weird/stupid than Quina. They are useful once you get some Blue magic spells, but their story is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites
Mamoulian War 1,974 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Well Quina and Caith Sith are typical examples of love or hate characters. I feel really strange, but I have enjoyed both in my main parties Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Shadowrun Hong Kong Extended Edition (in progress) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 22 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours Link to post Share on other sites
Lorfean 167 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I don't like any of the companions in Kingmaker. Most of them are very good / fun / interesting mechanically but NONE of their stories or personalities do anything for me, and it's a shame. I don't know how literally all of them managed to end up so boring -- the only thing I can think of is that Owlcat wrote them mostly around their Alignments and took the most boring / tropy interpretations of those alignments and gave them those characteristics... Or sth like that. 2 Shadow Thief of the Obsidian Order My Backloggery Link to post Share on other sites
Anthonyrex 9 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I can't believe no one mentioned Sera from Inquisition. Ostensibly an adult, behaving like a five year old. Just a poorly written character all around. A complete disconnect between her personality and what she's supposedly been through. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
StupidSeal 14 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Anthonyrex said: I can't believe no one mentioned Sera from Inquisition. Ostensibly an adult, behaving like a five year old. Just a poorly written character all around. A complete disconnect between her personality and what she's supposedly been through. Good call! On 11/1/2020 at 10:09 PM, Labadal said: No character is more weird/stupid than Quina. They are useful once you get some Blue magic spells, but their story is laughable. Hideous I can't bear to even glance at it. Link to post Share on other sites
StupidSeal 14 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 Well my previous thread on Minsc got locked. I believe there's a special place in hell reserved for Minsc who is a make believe character and not even real. GOSH! Why do I even care so much. I tOtALly hate Minsc by the way. Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeMaster 296 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 15 hours ago, StupidSeal said: Well my previous thread on Minsc got locked. I believe there's a special place in hell reserved for Minsc who is a make believe character and not even real. GOSH! Why do I even care so much. I tOtALly hate Minsc by the way. Or maybe stop obsessing over characters from decades old vidya games, it's tough, I know, I recently got over my Jill Valentine fetish and stopped playing games running on 2mb video memory. "China’s success on the world stage benefits the Chinese people. America’s success on the world stage comes at the expense of the American people." -Caitlin Johnstone Link to post Share on other sites
majestic 2,292 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Stop talking to yourself. 1 1 We all have signed the pacts, we knew so well nothing was left We are being born at the sound of ends, and yes we still believe in beauty It used to be the pride of Man, now a flame put out by the cold in his hand Link to post Share on other sites
KaineParker 6,199 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 11/1/2020 at 12:01 PM, Lorfean said: I don't like any of the companions in Kingmaker. Most of them are very good / fun / interesting mechanically but NONE of their stories or personalities do anything for me, and it's a shame. I don't know how literally all of them managed to end up so boring -- the only thing I can think of is that Owlcat wrote them mostly around their Alignments and took the most boring / tropy interpretations of those alignments and gave them those characteristics... Or sth like that. Even Cephal? 8 minutes ago, majestic said: Stop talking to yourself. They need to rope in their other personalities for a battle royale. 1 1 "I am the expert, asshat." - Hurlshot "You need to be careful, lest I write another ten page essay on mythology and how it relates to Sailor Moon." - majestic "I won't say what just in case KaineParker is reading" - Bartimaeus "Oh no! Is there super secret ending as well? I don’t care." - Wormerine Link to post Share on other sites
StupidSeal 14 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 hours ago, majestic said: Stop talking to yourself. Never. Link to post Share on other sites
Malcador 7,350 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 11/9/2020 at 9:47 AM, majestic said: Stop talking to yourself. Is the only way to have intelligent conversation. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to post Share on other sites
Amentep 5,858 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 If you want to spam, take it to off-topic. This thread, too, seems to have outlived its usefulness. Link to post Share on other sites
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