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The F-35 is the wonder weapon of our time.

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27 minutes ago, kanisatha said:

Just saw this myself. People who like to whine about the F-35 (especially in the news media and in Congress) are idiots.

Imo, the F-35 does have some legitimate growing pains, but I think those pains are specifically why the Swiss chose it:

“In terms of effectiveness, the F-35A achieved the best result because ... it includes entirely new, extremely powerful and comprehensively networked systems for protecting and monitoring airspace,” the Federal Council stated.

Once they work out the kinks it will truly reach its potential.

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58 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Imo, the F-35 does have some legitimate growing pains, but I think those pains are specifically why the Swiss chose it:

“In terms of effectiveness, the F-35A achieved the best result because ... it includes entirely new, extremely powerful and comprehensively networked systems for protecting and monitoring airspace,” the Federal Council stated.

Once they work out the kinks it will truly reach its potential.

Yup, as any new revolutionary system has growing pains. For example, our first jet-powered aircraft.

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https://asiatimes.com/2021/07/tiny-terror-armys-new-smg-packs-a-compact-punch/

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Army wants some subby action, after decades of hiatus, but mostly for security personnel.

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MP7 wasn't considered ?  I guess due to the ammunition, though.

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Somehow that scope just looks completely out of place on that gun 🤔

 

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On 7/6/2021 at 5:44 PM, Malcador said:

MP7 wasn't considered ?  I guess due to the ammunition, though.

Yeah leading ballistics experts are now claiming that 9mm on a 5.5 inch barrel is the perfect pistol/small arms round as far as low recoil and adequate penetration goes and the U.S. Army has always been pretty diligent on listening to experts so this decision doesn't surprise me in the least.  9mm has seen some advances over the years so you have a whole ton of ammo to choose from, from low velocity "assassin" rounds to ultra powerful Russian made Barnaul rounds.  U.S. Army -again- goes with the pragmatic Winchester NATO rounds for 9mm sidearms and probably will for the subby as well.

I've never been in the Army but I feel like I know and understand their decisions like the back of my hand lol.

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Times - British soldier crashes into house as parachute fails during training exercise

A British soldier has survived crashing through the roof of a house and landing in the kitchen after his parachute failed to deploy fully on a training exercise.
He jumped out of a plane and fell more than 15,000 feet during a high-altitude-low-opening jump. They are used by special forces including the SAS and SBS to deploy troops in hostile environments.

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7 hours ago, Gorth said:

 

I prefer the metal cover myself

 

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32 minutes ago, ShadySands said:

If that wanted it to work then they shouldn't have named it Ford

'course the obvious solution is to find somebody named subaru to run for President.

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ps edit due to dyslexia... to is v. is to 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Raithe said:

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am knowing war isn't a joke, but the wooden bomb thing is quixotic both extreme english and funny.

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We did that in 99 with fake mig-29s, the body was made of sheet metal so it would react to radar and the engines would be metal barrels in which they would burn wood to simulate the heat of the engines. Enough to say that the supply couldn't keep up with the demands and almost all of the decoys were destroyed while none of the real planes were hit.

We also did that with tanks in Kosovo, it worked so well that NATO claimed 181 tanks, 317 armored transporters, 857 cannons and 600 militray vehicles were destroyed. When they visited the sites of "destruction" with the press it's fair to say they were pretty embarrassed. When the Serbian army was pulling out of Kosovo they had convoys with 250 tanks, 250 armored transporters and 600 cannons, which was pretty much everything that was deployed there.

We should have sent the brits a couple of those fake tanks as souvenirs. 😂

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