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1 minute ago, Gfted1 said:

:shrugz: Gotta work with what we have.

 

that is exactly what the folks in oregon is doing.  rules require a quorum. only way for minority to prevent legislation becoming law is quorum busting. is not as if the minority created the quorum rules. they is working with what they got.

HA! Good Fun!


"Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty. To courageous, self-reliant men, with confidence in the power of free and fearless reasoning applied through the processes of popular government, no danger flowing from speech can be deemed clear and present, unless the incidence of the evil apprehended is so imminent that it may befall before there is opportunity for full discussion. If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."--Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

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The Republicans compromise of putting it on the ballot sounds reasonable though. Although I do wonder if they did that because they know it'll fail in the ballot (which I suppose is the point) or if its simply the right thing to do.

edit: Not sure if the US Senate has quorum rules, but if it does, I'm surprised the Democrats haven't tried using it.

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Aye, Im aware that for you and GD, accomplishing absolutely nothing is WAI. 

It annoys me, however at the end of the day, its not my problem.


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33 minutes ago, smjjames said:

 

edit: Not sure if the US Senate has quorum rules, but if it does, I'm surprised the Democrats haven't tried using it.

there is a reason we referenced senator packwood being hauled in to chambers to establish a quorum.

@gifted and we know how much both you and gd like to indulge in hyperbole. is not as if this is the only bit o' legislation oregon has dealt with in the past couple years, eh? and nobody suggests doing nothing on even this issue. is important issue, but if you gotta strongarm a minority into accepting, then perhaps more debate and negotiation is needed, eh? is so much bad legislation and executive decisions which has been executed over the years. not doing is often the course o' wisdom.  choose not to pass bad legislation is hardly same as accomplishing absolutely nothing.

HA! Good Fun!

 


"Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty. To courageous, self-reliant men, with confidence in the power of free and fearless reasoning applied through the processes of popular government, no danger flowing from speech can be deemed clear and present, unless the incidence of the evil apprehended is so imminent that it may befall before there is opportunity for full discussion. If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."--Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

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