knownastherat Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, Boeroer said: I also delivered the most appropriate character names. Through the ultimate meta-knowledge, knowledge of Josh's soul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 He tried to trap me with Cancelvorhaut tho. 1 2 My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelee Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Storytime folks: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The Jews? ROFL... 2 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldurs_gate_2 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Vela is really the biggest pain in the butt. She is absolutly useless and when you trigger one fight where you don't expect one, she is basically dead without a withdraw scroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 The problem is that she basically runs into enemies all the time while terrified. If she would just crouch down and stay there it wouldn't be too bad. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenum Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Boeroer said: The problem is that she basically runs into enemies all the time while terrified. If she would just crouch down and stay there it wouldn't be too bad. Interesting... No way to clear Terrify with Resolve Inspiration? Pillars of Eternity 1 - Russian Extended Localization Pillars of Eternity 2 - Deadfire Russian Localization Fix Pillars of Eternity 2 - Deadfire Community Patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 No, it's a "non-affliction" terrify that doesn't follow the usual rules. It's just her behavior - like most NPCs in cities etc have when a fight starts. At the same time she wants to follow you. Using withdraw seems to be the only reliable way to deal with her nonsensical behavior. That's why priest is so popular atm with The Ultimate. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 The fear can actually be used to your advantage. The trick is to get her feared far away from the enemies "spawn point" - the point they return to when they lose sight of you. Most effective way to achieve this is to cc her where you want her lead the enemies to her and then away from her again. You might have to withdraw her, but here comes the positive about her fear effect, you never need to withdraw her more than once, so non priest classes without an actual withdraw are also fine with using scrolls, since you don't need more than one per fight as long as you fight out of line of sight of Vela her fear will stop her from following you. (if she's behind a door you can even close it on her, usually she would open it like the spoiled brat she is, but not in her fear) The reason why I personally think priest is the strongest multiclass option for not only this challenge but in general is the combo of brilliant (shroud of likeness) and Salvation of Time. A singleclass like Monk MIGHT still be better offensive (especially if you count prebuffing time to the time an actual fight takes) but the SoT abuse is really strong for the dlcs since Brilliant, Blade Cascade, Conduit and ANY item effects prolonged by SoT will carry over after combat ends as long as the duration doesn't run out, so a monk will definitely need to be a lot more careful in the dlcs compared to priest multiclasses. Also keep in mind while a priest mc might take forever to get brilliant before a boss fight, there is no real risk involved in that so it doesn't actually matter if the fight takes longer overall, killing the actual boss with blade cascade and Conduit will never take more than 2 minutes. My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 A little update on the chanter btw: Invocation type self buffs like Their Champion braved the horde alone extended by SoT will, much like item effects, carry over after combat end. For those who missed the stream the other day: Totally against my expectations chants like Ancient memory and Old Siec can be extended by SoT too, so a chanter/priest can have ALL buff chants active at the same time. 2 My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waski Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Chanter/wiz too. I've tried wall of draining and I had something like 4 or 5 chants( self buffing) running, and bellower PL bonus too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldurs_gate_2 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Raven Darkholme said: The fear can actually be used to your advantage. The trick is to get her feared far away from the enemies "spawn point" - the point they return to when they lose sight of you. Most effective way to achieve this is to cc her where you want her lead the enemies to her and then away from her again. You might have to withdraw her, but here comes the positive about her fear effect, you never need to withdraw her more than once, so non priest classes without an actual withdraw are also fine with using scrolls, since you don't need more than one per fight as long as you fight out of line of sight of Vela her fear will stop her from following you. (if she's behind a door you can even close it on her, usually she would open it like the spoiled brat she is, but not in her fear) The reason why I personally think priest is the strongest multiclass option for not only this challenge but in general is the combo of brilliant (shroud of likeness) and Salvation of Time. A singleclass like Monk MIGHT still be better offensive (especially if you count prebuffing time to the time an actual fight takes) but the SoT abuse is really strong for the dlcs since Brilliant, Blade Cascade, Conduit and ANY item effects prolonged by SoT will carry over after combat ends as long as the duration doesn't run out, so a monk will definitely need to be a lot more careful in the dlcs compared to priest multiclasses. Also keep in mind while a priest mc might take forever to get brilliant before a boss fight, there is no real risk involved in that so it doesn't actually matter if the fight takes longer overall, killing the actual boss with blade cascade and Conduit will never take more than 2 minutes. Depends on the class with the CC. A priest can easily hold her, but a SC Monk can only throw a sparkcracker, whom she always follow and lure the enemies then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 5 hours ago, baldurs_gate_2 said: Depends on the class with the CC. A priest can easily hold her, but a SC Monk can only throw a sparkcracker, whom she always follow and lure the enemies then. Scrolls? My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldurs_gate_2 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Raven Darkholme said: Scrolls? Besides withdraw? If you are unlucky with rng at the shops, you won't get much fangs there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 I meant stuff like web. Shorter duration than Halt for sure and annoying to target but better than nothing. My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldurs_gate_2 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Maybe i try that. I could pump up the travelspeed to 88, without the 5% hull tho. There is a master navigator in crookspur, whom you could recruit through the merchant on the beach. But you need the principi colors from dereo to sail through the crookspur slaver ships. With a voyager you could get 10% more speed out of it i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Max travel speed is 95. (with Voyager). Going to Crookspur is not a problem (did it on one of my Ultimate attempts the other day). There's less slaver ships than used to be and even if there was more as long as you're not carrying too much copper (I only sell as many items as I need to) surrendering is almost free and if you go into naval combat screen and immediately surrender you also get 1 xp for the crew. 1 My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Streaming today? Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Yes. 1 My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Damn. My wife will hit me... 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy1984 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 How strict is Obsidian on unintentional bugs? Example: I currently have "Untouchable" (immunity to CON afflictions) and "Death and Taxes" (Hardy inspiration for 60 sec) on my (Non-Ultimate) playthrough even if Bardatto's Luxury is not equipped. Nice free stuff for me, but I can't get rid of it. Would be hard if you get disqualified for something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) We don't even know if bugs disqualify for certain, "not in the spirit of the challenge" is actually quite vague. I forgot to ask Josh when he was in my stream the other day but if he ever comes there again I will ask for sure about the unintentional bugs. As to getting rid of the item buffs, can't you rest to lose them? Have you tried reequipping and unequipping again? Edited May 26, 2019 by Raven Darkholme My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reent Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Raven Darkholme said: We don't even know if bugs disqualify for certain, "not in the spirit of the challenge" is actually quite vague. I forgot to ask Josh when he was in my stream the other day but if he ever comes there again I will ask for sure about the unintentional bugs. As to getting rid of the item buffs, can't you rest to lose them? Have you tried reequipping and unequipping again? If you are on a no rest strategy "rest to lose the bug" is a "start a new run" answer In my opinion its unfortunately, but if a run with such a bug qualified, it would be stupid to check the replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy1984 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Raven Darkholme said: As to getting rid of the item buffs, can't you rest to lose them? Have you tried reequipping and unequipping again? No, resting and reequiping + uneqiping doesn't remove these ... I probably could remove them with the Unity Console. Not a big deal as this is not a Ultimate run, but it would be nice to clarify this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Josh said today bugs are Obsidians responsibility and won't disqualify you. The whole "spirit of the challenge" seems to be mostly insurance against people trying to exploit every loophole possible. 2 My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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