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I wouldn't call most of Bethshoft's quests captivating either ...

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I can see where people could say Obsidian would be a good fit. With FONV they have proven they can work within the constraints of another developer's buggy mess. Of course they also showed that none of that mess will be cleared up, simply worked with.

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I mean they currently works on Outer World and that new FP RPG which should be close to what bloodlines should have been

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2 hours ago, melkathi said:

Of course they also showed that none of that mess will be cleared up, simply worked with.

From what I've heard about the Creation Engine after the FO76 fiasco(s), I don't think anyone could clear it up at this point, even if they had years instead of months.

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7 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

bloodlines 2 seems to have graphic way too fancy than any obsidian game

wonder if they can handle it without some additional support

It's likely that whatever significant work Bloodlines 2 requires to get ready the graphics would be salvageable/ reusable so long as the delay isn't too long. End of the day even modern graphics are also pretty easy for even relatively unskilled people to understand, whereas something like undocumented code can be very difficult to decipher, so there shouldn't be any hidden difficulties either. Graphics should require the least work, probably level building next least and it's likely to be bugs and stability, gameplay, storyline and getting it out the door as a finished product which would be the big troubles.

If graphics and level design require lots of work either the game is highly unfinished or development has effectively been rebooted.

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Safe to say Hardsuit didn't have near the breadth of talent of Troika working on the game. Five years of development and nothing but excuses. Can't even buy a video card to hypothetically play the disappointing heap anyway.

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I have played various WoD settings and games. I have a Brujha deck for the card game somewhere around here as well.

More of a Changeling fan though than Vampire.

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3 hours ago, melkathi said:

I have played various WoD settings and games. I have a Brujha deck for the card game somewhere around here as well.

More of a Changeling fan though than Vampire.

I played the old Vampire, Werewolf, Demon and Hunter and the new Vampire three times.

We had Changeling in our collection but we never played it to my great dismay. I really liked that premise.

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Yeah, I played quite a bit of Hunter. Made a character for Demon but that is as far as I got with that. Never got into Werewolf. I think it is the setting that most suffered from players and storytellers who didn't understand the point of WOD (obviously, whatever makes you have fun) and simply got turned into a lulz I can beat up anything.

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The Demon campaign went MDK-lulz since we had a few younger "kids" that we introduced to our group through that game, they mostly did their best in killing each other and thing often went haywire from there.

The vast, vast majority of the sessions we had was in Vampire, and while I forgot to mention it in my previous post we also played some Mummy, which definetly was my favourite of the ones we played.

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On 3/1/2021 at 10:51 AM, Irving Beet said:

I love this game. has anyone tried the tabletop version of the game?

I've played some Dark Ages back when it came out, but we never got far into it before it got interrupted.

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I kind of think the new developer might be better off just starting from scratch. Trying to cobble together something from existing work, probably from multiple sources at this point, and new work is likely to produce an incoherent mess, especially for a narrative-driven game.

I'm writing this project off as dead in my mind. On the off chance that it releases and isn't a dumpster fire that will be a pleasant surprise.

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They'd be better off cutting their losses and handing the game over to WESP.

Would much rather the game cancelled, and Brian allowed to carry over the script, and he and some modders use Source and the original source material in LA and relocate the setting back to the original. That'd be amazing - keep the UI and everything - just import the new characters/plot for the ultimate Bloodlines 1 add-on.

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On 3/1/2021 at 9:51 AM, Irving Beet said:

I love this game. has anyone tried the tabletop version of the game?

I've done a batch.

I've got a massive stack of the books from all the WoD lines.

It can depend if you can get your mind around the massive amound of teenage metaphor of angst that a lot of them run with. 😄

There are different aspects depending on if you're going Vampire the Masquerade vs Vampire the Dark Ages, or Mage the Ascension.  Then again, Wraith the Oblivion was one of the most utterly depressing gaming systems I've ever encountered.  I personally loved a lot of the ideas in Demon the Fallen, but I never found a gaming group wanting to play in it.

Did play in a campaign that actually started in The Dark Ages with neonates, and we ended up going through the centuries until it became Vampire the Masquerade in the modern age.

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