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I just want kill 2-3 gods in POE3. Perhaps in a mythical area.


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romances are ok as long as they are very well made (some dragon age romances are bad btw , most of baldurs gate ones  better) . the game should nbot overly focus in romances.  i think xoti romance was good in my opinion. maia, not so much. 



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The Grieving Mother: Everything I wrote about Durance applies to the Grieving Mother too, only that I feel her existence was way more self-contained and her arc was also given a much clearer conclusion than Durance's. If Avellone was still around I could have seen a potential return of Durance in a sequel, but never of the Grieving Mother.

 

And I killed her in the first game. (Crazy cat ladies. Ew.)



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The Grieving Mother: Everything I wrote about Durance applies to the Grieving Mother too, only that I feel her existence was way more self-contained and her arc was also given a much clearer conclusion than Durance's. If Avellone was still around I could have seen a potential return of Durance in a sequel, but never of the Grieving Mother.

 

And I killed her in the first game. (Crazy cat ladies. Ew.)

 

 

You seem obsessed with hating this fictional character.  


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Why you guys want to see 50 percent of the old cast return. Like holy sh. Just have poe3 take place in deadfire again. We can chase eothas in a giant statue.

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i hope pillars of eternity 3 is not impossible.  from what i have seen after november the sales improved a little. perhaps because of the console sales ?  if pillars 3 be ever released. i think a idea could be ( besides doing an epic game above level 20, which would be more difficult )   to create 2 characters. the watcher from poe1 and poe2 , which would be a non-playable npc  who could even become an antagonist depending of your choices and whose story (and that of featured old characters)  would depend on it. and your new level 1 character,  i think the poe 1 and poe 2 characters should probably only appear as npcs in the new games if it would not be an epic game. your new character would start in level 1.

 

Nouser, honestly, *if* there's a PoE3, it seems to me like the devs were lining things up for it to happen in Yezuha, where Rekke is from.  There seem to be plenty of hints in PoE2 pointing in that direction.  And were that the case, I think that the point would be for the Watcher to take Rekke home.  However, I doubt that that's set in stone.  Heck, there are no guarantees that there'll be a PoE3 at all, though it'd be VERY sad if there wasn't a 3rd installment in this series.

 

That Rekke story sounds like a really dumb idea. Especially since Rekke isn't a full fledged party member with no investment into the story whatsoever.

 

No I stand by the fact that PoE should not continue with the Watcher and have a new type of protagonist emerge in the future. Some time needs to have passed since PoE2. A protagonist that can deal with the fallout of Eothas' actions. Have previous party members or characters just pop up as cameo's or maybe as part of a side quest or something. Or not at all.

 

One of the main gripes I had with PoEII was how little impact your actions in PoE seemed to have on your party. Only Eder was agreeable. Everyone else was like: ah yea we travelled together for months, shared life, misery, dreams, happiness, hardship. Oh and we stopped one of the Gods from destroying us, killed dragons and ended the hollowborn crisis. But yea now you said you don't like cookies so now I hate your guts. 

 

The introduction of your old team came of really wrong. Especially Aloth and Pallegina. If it was reallity I would have told them to piss off. Ah yes this reminds me of the time I played BG2 and killed Anomen when he started his self righteous attitude towards Jan. I dispise people like him and Durance. With a vengeance. Somehow, Aloth also went that route. It wasn't enough for me to want to kill him and kick his body into a ditch, but he wasn't far off. Not far at all.


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i hope pillars of eternity 3 is not impossible.  from what i have seen after november the sales improved a little. perhaps because of the console sales ?  if pillars 3 be ever released. i think a idea could be ( besides doing an epic game above level 20, which would be more difficult )   to create 2 characters. the watcher from poe1 and poe2 , which would be a non-playable npc  who could even become an antagonist depending of your choices and whose story (and that of featured old characters)  would depend on it. and your new level 1 character,  i think the poe 1 and poe 2 characters should probably only appear as npcs in the new games if it would not be an epic game. your new character would start in level 1.

 

Nouser, honestly, *if* there's a PoE3, it seems to me like the devs were lining things up for it to happen in Yezuha, where Rekke is from.  There seem to be plenty of hints in PoE2 pointing in that direction.  And were that the case, I think that the point would be for the Watcher to take Rekke home.  However, I doubt that that's set in stone.  Heck, there are no guarantees that there'll be a PoE3 at all, though it'd be VERY sad if there wasn't a 3rd installment in this series.

 

That Rekke story sounds like a really dumb idea. Especially since Rekke isn't a full fledged party member with no investment into the story whatsoever.

 

No I stand by the fact that PoE should not continue with the Watcher and have a new type of protagonist emerge in the future. Some time needs to have passed since PoE2. A protagonist that can deal with the fallout of Eothas' actions. Have previous party members or characters just pop up as cameo's or maybe as part of a side quest or something. Or not at all.

 

One of the main gripes I had with PoEII was how little impact your actions in PoE seemed to have on your party. Only Eder was agreeable. Everyone else was like: ah yea we travelled together for months, shared life, misery, dreams, happiness, hardship. Oh and we stopped one of the Gods from destroying us, killed dragons and ended the hollowborn crisis. But yea now you said you don't like cookies so now I hate your guts. 

 

The introduction of your old team came off really wrong. Especially Aloth and Pallegina. If it was reallity I would have told them to piss off. Ah yes this reminds me of the time I played BG2 and killed Anomen when he started his self righteous attitude towards Jan. I dispise people like him and Durance. With a vengeance. Somehow, Aloth also went that route. It wasn't enough for me to want to kill him and kick his body into a ditch, but he wasn't far off. Not far at all.

 

 

1. I don't think that a Rekke story for PoE3 is a dumb idea at all.  I also don't give a flying (you know what) about "investment in the story".  If anything, that's what makes it an even better idea, not a lesser idea.  I *want* to see the story get away from most of the existing companions!!!

 

2. I'm also very much in favor of continuing with the Watcher, but just have that story move over to Yezuha.  I'd like the story to be one where perhaps the Watcher is sent to Yezuha by the Gods to investigate some new rising power there.  And of course, bringing Rekke along to help out.

 

3. Frankly, your gripes in the 3rd paragraph don't even show up on my "radar screen". 

 

4. I didn't like Durance either.  However, I suspect that he was included because the character devs didn't want to only have nicey-nice companions.  They wanted at least one who was surly and not very likable.   Honestly, I wouldn't have even included him in my part, except for the fact that he was the only priest and you encountered him early (usually the 3rd companion you meet), which at least for me, made it very difficult to not use him.  Also consider that not everyone who plays PoE1/2 are going to always want to play perfectly nice Watchers.  Heck, given the number of people who talk about playing Bleak Walkers, it sounds like there are plenty who play Watchers who are serious jerks, since to me, a "nice" Bleak Walker seems like a total oxymoron.

 

I can't speak for Aloth in PoE2, as I've tended to leave him in my reserves and only using him for that late game Leaden Key related personal quest, and occasionally for battles that seem to require the services of a high level wizard.  Thus, I haven't had many long discussions with Aloth, but those I have had didn't seem as bad as you're making them out to be.  Maybe I'm missing a lot of his personal banter.

 

Frankly, it seems to me like you're expecting every Companion to be paragons of virtue and to like every other companion.  That hardly seems realistic to me.  Heck, there can be people who seem normally very pleasant.  But then they encounter someone who rubs them the wrong way and it brings out the worst in them.  Hey, Pallegina doesn't like overly pious people, and Eder doesn't like people who are cruel to animals.   Heck, some people don't like Xoti because her constant, over the top niceness annoys them.

 

Anyways, I think that you have unrealistic expectations if you expect every companion (and perhaps sidekick) to be likeable and get along with every other companion, 24/7 (or whatever it is on Eora).  That's just not the way that people are.



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Why you guys want to see 50 percent of the old cast return. Like holy sh. Just have poe3 take place in deadfire again. We can chase eothas in a giant statue.

 

We had almost half of the old cast from PoE1 show up in PoE2.  Some as Companions (Eder, Aloth, and Pallegina).  Others making cameos (Kana, Mahena, Devil of Caroc (as enchanted armor), and Durance... sort of).  And I think that Eder might have mentioned Hiravias at some point.  I just don't remember for certain. 7 (or 8) out of 11 is a pretty good representation.

 

Heck, one might even make the case that Maia is a semi carry over from PoE1.  Not that she was in PoE1. of course.  Her brother Kana was.  But she represents a familial carryover, since Kana really couldn't fill the role that Maia does in PoE2.  In fact, I'm tempted to think that the writers might have wanted to have Kana carry over as a full companion, but couldn't find a way to do it, and settled for his sister as a Companion and Kana in a camo role.



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i hope pillars of eternity 3 is not impossible.  from what i have seen after november the sales improved a little. perhaps because of the console sales ?  if pillars 3 be ever released. i think a idea could be ( besides doing an epic game above level 20, which would be more difficult )   to create 2 characters. the watcher from poe1 and poe2 , which would be a non-playable npc  who could even become an antagonist depending of your choices and whose story (and that of featured old characters)  would depend on it. and your new level 1 character,  i think the poe 1 and poe 2 characters should probably only appear as npcs in the new games if it would not be an epic game. your new character would start in level 1.

 

Nouser, honestly, *if* there's a PoE3, it seems to me like the devs were lining things up for it to happen in Yezuha, where Rekke is from.  There seem to be plenty of hints in PoE2 pointing in that direction.  And were that the case, I think that the point would be for the Watcher to take Rekke home.  However, I doubt that that's set in stone.  Heck, there are no guarantees that there'll be a PoE3 at all, though it'd be VERY sad if there wasn't a 3rd installment in this series.

 

That Rekke story sounds like a really dumb idea. Especially since Rekke isn't a full fledged party member with no investment into the story whatsoever.

 

No I stand by the fact that PoE should not continue with the Watcher and have a new type of protagonist emerge in the future. Some time needs to have passed since PoE2. A protagonist that can deal with the fallout of Eothas' actions. Have previous party members or characters just pop up as cameo's or maybe as part of a side quest or something. Or not at all.

 

One of the main gripes I had with PoEII was how little impact your actions in PoE seemed to have on your party. Only Eder was agreeable. Everyone else was like: ah yea we travelled together for months, shared life, misery, dreams, happiness, hardship. Oh and we stopped one of the Gods from destroying us, killed dragons and ended the hollowborn crisis. But yea now you said you don't like cookies so now I hate your guts. 

 

The introduction of your old team came off really wrong. Especially Aloth and Pallegina. If it was reallity I would have told them to piss off. Ah yes this reminds me of the time I played BG2 and killed Anomen when he started his self righteous attitude towards Jan. I dispise people like him and Durance. With a vengeance. Somehow, Aloth also went that route. It wasn't enough for me to want to kill him and kick his body into a ditch, but he wasn't far off. Not far at all.

 

 

1. I don't think that a Rekke story for PoE3 is a dumb idea at all.  I also don't give a flying (you know what) about "investment in the story".  If anything, that's what makes it an even better idea, not a lesser idea.  I *want* to see the story get away from most of the existing companions!!!

 

2. I'm also very much in favor of continuing with the Watcher, but just have that story move over to Yezuha.  I'd like the story to be one where perhaps the Watcher is sent to Yezuha by the Gods to investigate some new rising power there.  And of course, bringing Rekke along to help out.

 

3. Frankly, your gripes in the 3rd paragraph don't even show up on my "radar screen". 

 

4. I didn't like Durance either.  However, I suspect that he was included because the character devs didn't want to only have nicey-nice companions.  They wanted at least one who was surly and not very likable.   Honestly, I wouldn't have even included him in my part, except for the fact that he was the only priest and you encountered him early (usually the 3rd companion you meet), which at least for me, made it very difficult to not use him.  Also consider that not everyone who plays PoE1/2 are going to always want to play perfectly nice Watchers.  Heck, given the number of people who talk about playing Bleak Walkers, it sounds like there are plenty who play Watchers who are serious jerks, since to me, a "nice" Bleak Walker seems like a total oxymoron.

 

I can't speak for Aloth in PoE2, as I've tended to leave him in my reserves and only using him for that late game Leaden Key related personal quest, and occasionally for battles that seem to require the services of a high level wizard.  Thus, I haven't had many long discussions with Aloth, but those I have had didn't seem as bad as you're making them out to be.  Maybe I'm missing a lot of his personal banter.

 

Frankly, it seems to me like you're expecting every Companion to be paragons of virtue and to like every other companion.  That hardly seems realistic to me.  Heck, there can be people who seem normally very pleasant.  But then they encounter someone who rubs them the wrong way and it brings out the worst in them.  Hey, Pallegina doesn't like overly pious people, and Eder doesn't like people who are cruel to animals.   Heck, some people don't like Xoti because her constant, over the top niceness annoys them.

 

Anyways, I think that you have unrealistic expectations if you expect every companion (and perhaps sidekick) to be likeable and get along with every other companion, 24/7 (or whatever it is on Eora).  That's just not the way that people are.

 

Ok, so the devs will have to make up yet another reason for losing all your experience, money and equipment. It was one of the least appealing parts of PoEII. Your endeavours in PoE counted for absolutely nothing. It might have as well been a different character alltogether. It's cheap and unimaginative. And it prevents the game from growing into more. A lot of people do not like change. Because it's scary. Continuing the watcher story is a bad idea. It doesn't amount to anything. There's nothing left for the watcher to do other than going to a different land and do something else. Then why have the same character(s) participate and have it follow up on deadfire? No it's a truly unimaginitive idea. There's absolutely no point in doing so.

 

I'd love to see a new protagonist with different powers that take the story to a deeper level. Sure have Rekke participate and go to his lands. But add 10-15 years and build a new story based on past events. It allows for so much more creativity.

 

You confuse nice with likable. Viconia and Sarevok are not nice. But they are likable. What I like is something I enjoy. This has nothing to do with a persons herritage or "allignment". Anomen is a goody two shoe full of himself self righteous a-hole. He is not likable. Keldorn is a Paladin, but he's not a self righteous a-hole. So he IS likable. Durance is a self righteous smug know it all idiot with 0 intelligence. I don't find such a person appealing to have around just so he can spout his drivel at me on how well he knows everything and also about me. I found it hilarious that he found out he was wrong about everything. Made killing him so much sweeter. He was not a sad broken person. He was a dumbass and I knew that when I met him. Although now I just kill him as he utters the words "Saw you in the flame". Like a drive by killing, sell his loot and move on. Much better that way, because early game you really need the money. Better than having someone around that lowers the average IQ of the party. With Eder around that's saying something.



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It helps if people stop making references to dried up 20 year old games all the time.

Losing all our experience etc is reasonable. It allows the game to change. I hear people fear change but they need to get over it. How stupid would it be to start at lvl 14 with brand new skills, spells and power level scheme in a new game. Game has different mechanics so it makes sense to start from lvl one.

Not everyone will want to play poe2 with the same character. Some people want to try new classes and builds. Poe2 is different game pls let it sink in. There is multiclass etc to try out. People dont want to play exactly the same char from poe1.

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Losing all our experience etc is reasonable. It allows the game to change. 

It's not reasonable if it is the same character twice in a row. Like I said if you want to reset again, then enter a new character.

 

The major issue with not resetting is that Obsidian never created a levelling system that was able to scale beyond the game they made in PoE1. And now with PoE2 they did exactly the same thing. Even the expansions give no extra levels or growth for your character. If we go to PoE3 we'd need to reset the character again. It's boring. Just go with a new character and have us experience something completely new. Having to follow the watcher again is not new, it's not surprising. The Watcher had impact on the story in PoE. In PoE2 The Watcher has like 0 impact on the story. Being a Watcher has no impact on the story either. It's only there so people can recognize you. It turned into a gimmick. So like I said, give us a new protagonist that I can actually feel invested in.


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i hope pillars of eternity 3 is not impossible.  from what i have seen after november the sales improved a little. perhaps because of the console sales ?  if pillars 3 be ever released. i think a idea could be ( besides doing an epic game above level 20, which would be more difficult )   to create 2 characters. the watcher from poe1 and poe2 , which would be a non-playable npc  who could even become an antagonist depending of your choices and whose story (and that of featured old characters)  would depend on it. and your new level 1 character,  i think the poe 1 and poe 2 characters should probably only appear as npcs in the new games if it would not be an epic game. your new character would start in level 1.

 

Nouser, honestly, *if* there's a PoE3, it seems to me like the devs were lining things up for it to happen in Yezuha, where Rekke is from.  There seem to be plenty of hints in PoE2 pointing in that direction.  And were that the case, I think that the point would be for the Watcher to take Rekke home.  However, I doubt that that's set in stone.  Heck, there are no guarantees that there'll be a PoE3 at all, though it'd be VERY sad if there wasn't a 3rd installment in this series.

 

That Rekke story sounds like a really dumb idea. Especially since Rekke isn't a full fledged party member with no investment into the story whatsoever.

 

No I stand by the fact that PoE should not continue with the Watcher and have a new type of protagonist emerge in the future. Some time needs to have passed since PoE2. A protagonist that can deal with the fallout of Eothas' actions. Have previous party members or characters just pop up as cameo's or maybe as part of a side quest or something. Or not at all.

 

One of the main gripes I had with PoEII was how little impact your actions in PoE seemed to have on your party. Only Eder was agreeable. Everyone else was like: ah yea we travelled together for months, shared life, misery, dreams, happiness, hardship. Oh and we stopped one of the Gods from destroying us, killed dragons and ended the hollowborn crisis. But yea now you said you don't like cookies so now I hate your guts. 

 

The introduction of your old team came off really wrong. Especially Aloth and Pallegina. If it was reallity I would have told them to piss off. Ah yes this reminds me of the time I played BG2 and killed Anomen when he started his self righteous attitude towards Jan. I dispise people like him and Durance. With a vengeance. Somehow, Aloth also went that route. It wasn't enough for me to want to kill him and kick his body into a ditch, but he wasn't far off. Not far at all.

 

 

1. I don't think that a Rekke story for PoE3 is a dumb idea at all.  I also don't give a flying (you know what) about "investment in the story".  If anything, that's what makes it an even better idea, not a lesser idea.  I *want* to see the story get away from most of the existing companions!!!

 

2. I'm also very much in favor of continuing with the Watcher, but just have that story move over to Yezuha.  I'd like the story to be one where perhaps the Watcher is sent to Yezuha by the Gods to investigate some new rising power there.  And of course, bringing Rekke along to help out.

 

3. Frankly, your gripes in the 3rd paragraph don't even show up on my "radar screen". 

 

4. I didn't like Durance either.  However, I suspect that he was included because the character devs didn't want to only have nicey-nice companions.  They wanted at least one who was surly and not very likable.   Honestly, I wouldn't have even included him in my part, except for the fact that he was the only priest and you encountered him early (usually the 3rd companion you meet), which at least for me, made it very difficult to not use him.  Also consider that not everyone who plays PoE1/2 are going to always want to play perfectly nice Watchers.  Heck, given the number of people who talk about playing Bleak Walkers, it sounds like there are plenty who play Watchers who are serious jerks, since to me, a "nice" Bleak Walker seems like a total oxymoron.

 

I can't speak for Aloth in PoE2, as I've tended to leave him in my reserves and only using him for that late game Leaden Key related personal quest, and occasionally for battles that seem to require the services of a high level wizard.  Thus, I haven't had many long discussions with Aloth, but those I have had didn't seem as bad as you're making them out to be.  Maybe I'm missing a lot of his personal banter.

 

Frankly, it seems to me like you're expecting every Companion to be paragons of virtue and to like every other companion.  That hardly seems realistic to me.  Heck, there can be people who seem normally very pleasant.  But then they encounter someone who rubs them the wrong way and it brings out the worst in them.  Hey, Pallegina doesn't like overly pious people, and Eder doesn't like people who are cruel to animals.   Heck, some people don't like Xoti because her constant, over the top niceness annoys them.

 

Anyways, I think that you have unrealistic expectations if you expect every companion (and perhaps sidekick) to be likeable and get along with every other companion, 24/7 (or whatever it is on Eora).  That's just not the way that people are.

 

 

Ok, so the devs will have to make up yet another reason for losing all your experience, money and equipment. It was one of the least appealing parts of PoEII. Your endeavours in PoE counted for absolutely nothing. It might have as well been a different character alltogether. It's cheap and unimaginative. And it prevents the game from growing into more. A lot of people do not like change. Because it's scary. Continuing the watcher story is a bad idea. It doesn't amount to anything. There's nothing left for the watcher to do other than going to a different land and do something else. Then why have the same character(s) participate and have it follow up on deadfire? No it's a truly unimaginitive idea. There's absolutely no point in doing so.

 

I'd love to see a new protagonist with different powers that take the story to a deeper level. Sure have Rekke participate and go to his lands. But add 10-15 years and build a new story based on past events. It allows for so much more creativity.

 

You confuse nice with likable. Viconia and Sarevok are not nice. But they are likable. What I like is something I enjoy. This has nothing to do with a persons herritage or "allignment". Anomen is a goody two shoe full of himself self righteous a-hole. He is not likable. Keldorn is a Paladin, but he's not a self righteous a-hole. So he IS likable. Durance is a self righteous smug know it all idiot with 0 intelligence. I don't find such a person appealing to have around just so he can spout his drivel at me on how well he knows everything and also about me. I found it hilarious that he found out he was wrong about everything. Made killing him so much sweeter. He was not a sad broken person. He was a dumbass and I knew that when I met him. Although now I just kill him as he utters the words "Saw you in the flame". Like a drive by killing, sell his loot and move on. Much better that way, because early game you really need the money. Better than having someone around that lowers the average IQ of the party. With Eder around that's saying something.

 

 

1. I'm not bothered by starting over again, XP-wise, in PoE2.  And wouldn't be in a PoE3.  Oh, I would probably wish that I could start at level 4-5, just because things are a little more fun when you have more than the barest minimum of abilities, but that's a very minor thing for me.

 

2. Regardless, we disagree on this profoundly.  I'm perfectly happy to continue on with The Watcher, and head off to Yezuha with Rekke.  Maybe on a mission from the gods to investigate some new and mysterious rising power, as well as explore a hitherto unknown part of Eora.  And heck, unless you bring some companions with you, every potential companion or sidekick you'd meet in Yezuha would be completely new.  (I'd be happy to just head off to Yezuha with only Rekke and Ydwin at my side.)

 

3. No, I didn't confuse nice with likable.  "Nice" can be taken to mean different things, and often different to different people.   But, yes, in the sense if "nice" that YOU mean, there is a difference.  But I meant "nice" as likable.



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In my opinion it would be kinda disapointing if the watcher vanished.  if pillars 3 will not have you play as the watcher, the game should still have the watcher and older characters as npcs.  im all for having most of the characters from pillars 1 and 2 back,  but some of them should be npcs.  for example, it makes sense to have pallegina or kana and maia as npcs, since they are linked to their factions. durance also makes sense as a npc. either as a ghost in the service of magran or as an anti-theist aninmancer, depending of your choice in poe1.    sefyra (adra dragon) should also re-appear. 



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I like Aloth, Eder and Pallegina (she left the party so she won't be welcome  if PoE3 exists).

 

The 3 were in my party in PoE1 (with Durance) and PoE2.

 

After too much Watcher histories, I'd prefer a new character and new companions, with some cameos.







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