kirottu Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) You can be flawed, in a good way: New to The Outer Worlds is the idea of flaws. A compelling hero is made by the flaws they carry with them. While playing The Outer Worlds, the game tracks your experience to find what you aren't particularly good at. Keep getting attacked by Raptidons? Taking the Raptiphobia flaw gives you a debuff when confronting the vicious creatures, but rewards you with an additional character perk immediately. This optional approach to the game helps you build the character you want while exploring Halcyon. I would appreciate bit more info on how flaws work. Like is there a preset list of flaws where you can pick a flaw whenever or are flaws to be discovered? I mean, I can't really know if I have Raptiphobia if I have never met a Raptidon. Discovering new flaws through exploration that you could pick would open up some humorous and very humane gameplay: Struggle to climb the tallest mountain of the planet to finally feast your eyes on the wonderful vista opening up before your eyes, only to discover you have crippling fear of heights. That calls for me on some very primal level. Edited December 7, 2018 by kirottu 5 Quote This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicMage117 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 That's what I'm curious about. Definitely seems to be on the more experimental side. Kinda makes me womder though, like what will the extent be. Also, it seems like it would be easy to cheat this type of system. Quote Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiraLightfoot Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Fingers crossed for Darkest Dungeon flaws! Quote *** "The words of someone who feels ever more the ent among saplings when playing CRPGs" *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floredon Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 quirks, negative perks a la GURPS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skie Nightfall Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I want alcohol/drug addiction as a possible flaw 1 Quote ✔ Certified Bat Food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undecaf Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 It sounds like a neat system. I just wonder... Will the perks be worthwhile enough that one might consider trading a bundle of downsides for one? How beefy will the character systems be? Quote Perkele, tiädäksää tuanoini!"It's easier to tolerate idiots if you do not consider them as stupid people, but exceptionally gifted monkeys." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I want alcohol/drug addiction as a possible flaw Anytime you come across booze, you'll be railroaded into buying and chugging it. Quote "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleArmadillo0 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I hope that they add in something weird similar to Wild Wasteland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I really like the idea of flaws. As you get better in a skill based game it's great for the challenge to become even greater. It's also a clever way to min-max, because you might know of areas that your more skillful in and thus don't need the ingame skill points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blodhemn Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 The demo shows the system at work. Pretty much like in New Vegas, after killing so many cazadors you get an automated perk. It's based off how you play, not a random event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 No, not automated. You have to choose it. 1 Quote This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blodhemn Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Automated in presenting it, obviously, most likely after a certain number of repeated outcomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicMage117 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 So they're basically modifiers... Reminds me of Bastion (the first rpg I played with modifiers). Quote Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blodhemn Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Yeah, could say that but also part of Cain's world reactivity as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-Ben Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I hope that they add in something weird similar to Wild Wasteland. Very good post! I'm hoping for weirder stuff piled on to the expected weird stuff. Quote Yes! We have no bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizm0w Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I think this system will greatly add to the replay ability, and the roleplay aspect of the game. If you decide to do a strictly melee playthrough, or high pyromaniac build, then you could choose certain flaws on one playthrough that you may completely avoid in a different one. It will also cater more to different play styles for different people. Even if 2 different people are doing melee playthroughs, choosing different flaws could change the experience of both players in what decisions they will have to make in solving problems to get around the negative aspect of their flaws, or both may be offered optional dialogue based on the flaws, if that is a system in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daven Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yep, sounds similar to traits(?) in the first Fallout. Kind of. I love things like this, I don't always want my character to be perfect at absolutely everything. Trade offs are a good thing. And flaws in general, makes you have to think a bit more about certain situations. Quote nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floredon Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I'm wondering if you can be strategic with flaws, as in take a flaw that you know won't be relevant in the next quest area, and then replace it with another flaw when it becomes relevant. As in, let's say there is a flaw to take 20% more damage from robots, and your next area has no robots. Then replace it with a flaw when you know your next area has robots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I will make it my mission to make as flawed a character as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clawdius_Talonious Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I will make it my mission to make as flawed a character as possible. By default number of flaws you can accept depends on difficulty setting, 5 on the hardest, 4 on hard, 3 on normal and I guess 3 on the easiest difficulty? I don't think they mentioned that one when discussing number of flaws specifically. That said I'm sure one of the first mods will be a mod to let you be more flawed or more flawed on lower difficulties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I guess I'll just have to play on the hardest difficulty then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kefka1134 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Flaws are nice.... I don't know if I'd add on to it or exterpolate in any crazy way though... myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 hope for some personality flaw like greedy that can help with role playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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