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Multiclass Miscibility Guide

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I haven't messed with Priest much besides using Xoti in my playthroughs, but Paladin and Chanter seem like good fits for a frontline Priest multiclass.  With either multiclass, you double down on great supportive abilities and open up room in your party for more squishy damage dealers.

 

A more aggressive ranged priest might look like Priest of Berath/Helwalker monk.  Use Enduring Dance for accuracy, and Helwalker bonuses to buff up Rot Skulls and Storm of Holy Fire.  It would come together a little late, though, and you'd have to be careful not to take buffs from both classes that overwrite each other.

 

Generally, I feel like Priest is a weaker class in PoEII because many of the classes provide better buffs then the tier 1 buffs that Priests can hand out, and fights don't usually last long enough to make countering an affliction with an inspiration worthwhile.


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Priest is weaker than in PoE (where it was the strongest class in my - and other's - opinion). But I don't think that it's a weak class in deadfire.

Priest get some spells that can make a huge difference (for example Devotions: acc bonus that stacks with PER inspirations) when used properly.

A single class Priest lets you cast such spells a lot earlier and thus makes the playthrough easier - even if the performence of the priest itself is hard to measure and it doesn't feel like much.

But do an encounter with Blessing + Devotions and one without and you can see the difference +15 ACC make. It's like gaining 5 char levels (when it comes to accuracy). Not to forget the mean debuff it puts on enemies. The earlier you can use that spell the better.

Single class priests (esp. Magran) can have extremely potent damaging spells and also the higher Power level makes sure that lower level spells like Shining Beacon scale nicely. Power Level adds base damage so damaging spells. So if you can for example get a crit and have high MIG a higher Power Level with SHining Beacon leads to higher damage per tick AND longer duration. This double-buff of damage explains why a single class priest can reach very high dmg numbers with one single spell. It's not obvious, so it often gets overlooked.

So I wouldn't say that you shouldn't single-class a priest. In fact I think that Spark the Souls of the Righteous is so good if you know how to use it that it justifies to play a single class priest (in a party).

Edited by Boeroer, 09 August 2018 - 10:36 PM.

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Priest is weaker than in PoE (where it was the strongest class in my - and other's - opinion). But I don't think that it's a weak class in deadfire.

Priest get some spells that can make a huge difference (for example Devotions: acc bonus that stacks with PER inspirations) when used properly.

A single class Priest lets you cast such spells a lot earlier and thus makes the playthrough easier - even if the performence of the priest itself is hard to measure and it doesn't feel like much.

But do an encounter with Blessing + Devotions and one without and you can see the difference +15 ACC make. It's like gaining 5 char levels (when it comes to accuracy). Not to forget the mean debuff it puts on enemies. The earlier you can use that spell the better.

Single class priests (esp. Magran) can have extremely potent damaging spells and also the higher Power level makes sure that lower level spells like Shining Beacon scale nicely. Power Level adds base damage so damaging spells. So if you can for example get a crit and have high MIG a higher Power Level with SHining Beacon leads to higher damage per tick AND longer duration. This double-buff of damage explains why a single class priest can reach very high dmg numbers with one single spell. It's not obvious, so it often gets overlooked.

So I wouldn't say that you shouldn't single-class a priest. In fact I think that Spark the Souls of the Righteous is so good if you know how to use it that it justifies to play a single class priest (in a party)

For things like this I think they did a really neat job of giving viability to both single and multiclass characters. Despite all the pitfalls in the game's mechanics which Obsidian themselves often enough fall into, the basic idea of the character system really works.



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Priest is weaker than in PoE (where it was the strongest class in my - and other's - opinion). But I don't think that it's a weak class in deadfire.

Priest get some spells that can make a huge difference (for example Devotions: acc bonus that stacks with PER inspirations) when used properly.

A single class Priest lets you cast such spells a lot earlier and thus makes the playthrough easier - even if the performence of the priest itself is hard to measure and it doesn't feel like much.

But do an encounter with Blessing + Devotions and one without and you can see the difference +15 ACC make. It's like gaining 5 char levels (when it comes to accuracy). Not to forget the mean debuff it puts on enemies. The earlier you can use that spell the better.

Single class priests (esp. Magran) can have extremely potent damaging spells and also the higher Power level makes sure that lower level spells like Shining Beacon scale nicely. Power Level adds base damage so damaging spells. So if you can for example get a crit and have high MIG a higher Power Level with SHining Beacon leads to higher damage per tick AND longer duration. This double-buff of damage explains why a single class priest can reach very high dmg numbers with one single spell. It's not obvious, so it often gets overlooked.

So I wouldn't say that you shouldn't single-class a priest. In fact I think that Spark the Souls of the Righteous is so good if you know how to use it that it justifies to play a single class priest (in a party).

I dig single class Priest and Priest of Berath/Wizard but wish Cleric could come close to your outstanding melee Berath build in PoE:1. Wizard outshines multiclassing Priest with martials in every way I can think of.



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Yes. Although to be fair the summoned Great Sword is pretty neat. The only reason why a Priest of Berath (multiclassed for melee) isn't as great as he could be is that stupid implementation of Full Attacks (like FoD) that favors dual wielding. 

 

But I had good results with a Berathian/Goldpact Templar.

 

I didn*t check how wounding works with raised MIG in Deadfire, but I suspect that a Helwalker/Berathian with Engoliero do Espirs might be a really nice combo - thematically and also in terms of melee prowess if the wounding behaves anything like in PoE1.

Helwalker can get you +10 MIG and INT and the Estoc can give you another +3 to MIG (and CON and DEX - you don't even have to kill with the blade itself - a nuke will do). Combine with Holy Power and you are already at +18 MIG. No need to boost MIG at char creation or else you will reach the cap pretty soon. Healing and damage should go through the roof at some point. Also Barring Death's Door with +10 and more INT plus Salvation of Time seems to be great. Pair with Death Godlike to get +3 PL. :)


Edited by Boeroer, 10 August 2018 - 12:09 AM.

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In the subsection "Why multiclass" you list some of the drawbacks of multiclassing. Maybe it would also be worthwhile to point out if what build you are trying to make is supposed to be a full caster then single classing (with some exceptions like chanter/healer) might be better. You do touch on that fact with power level scaling, but in my experience this is more punishing for casters then for martial classes.







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