AndreaColombo Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 If the new content is challenging for a 20th-level party, I’ll finally get to enjoy the full extent of my power the way it was meant to be enjoyed. Being at the apex is a lot more enjoyable than the process of reaching it for me. 4 "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Some thoughts on Rymrgand: If Rymrgand is just as fake as the other gods, then the inevitablity of universal heat death may also be a lie. however... There are more gods than there are alcoves in the Engwithan god-making machine... The Engwithan gods are representations of their cultural values turned up to 11. Iovara has a line at the end of the first game that explains this (paraphrasing her: “anything taken to an extreme becomes grotesque”). Every mythology has a creation myth and an “end of the world” myth. Rymrgand is the latter. "Myth" being the key word here. Just because people believe it doesn't make it true. Rymrgand may well believe that his eventual victory is inevitable, but that doesn't make it true. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe Yeah, but what does that have to do with Rymrgand? Entropy existed before him, it will exist long after his death (which will predate the heat death of the universe by a long time). Entropy isn't dependent on his existence, he's merely a charlatan who claims that it does. Not necessarily true. Entropy exists in our universe, but the PoE universe appears to be a different universe, governed by different physical laws. So maybe in the PoE universe entropy is just a myth. Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 When this comes out, I hope there will be some change made to slow down the experience points gain. But, knowing how these things tend to work, there probably won't be. Hopefully there will be a mod that does it... or maybe it's easy enough to tweak on one's own. Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1fanboy Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 When this comes out, I hope there will be some change made to slow down the experience points gain. But, knowing how these things tend to work, there probably won't be. Hopefully there will be a mod that does it... or maybe it's easy enough to tweak on one's own. Just play all multiclass instead and use a mod that gets rid of the level cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 If the new content is challenging for a 20th-level party, I’ll finally get to enjoy the full extent of my power the way it was meant to be enjoyed. Being at the apex is a lot more enjoyable than the process of reaching it for me. I enjoy both but agree that a big part of the fun of these games is actually spending some amount of time at max level and being able to use that power in some challenging fights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardusk78 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I hope there is new soulbound item maybe? armor or shield? The stream showed a new soulbound great sword, because there are far too few great swords in Deadfire WOT?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Some thoughts on Rymrgand: If Rymrgand is just as fake as the other gods, then the inevitablity of universal heat death may also be a lie. however... There are more gods than there are alcoves in the Engwithan god-making machine... The Engwithan gods are representations of their cultural values turned up to 11. Iovara has a line at the end of the first game that explains this (paraphrasing her: “anything taken to an extreme becomes grotesque”). Every mythology has a creation myth and an “end of the world” myth. Rymrgand is the latter."Myth" being the key word here. Just because people believe it doesn't make it true. Rymrgand may well believe that his eventual victory is inevitable, but that doesn't make it true. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe Yeah, but what does that have to do with Rymrgand? Entropy existed before him, it will exist long after his death (which will predate the heat death of the universe by a long time). Entropy isn't dependent on his existence, he's merely a charlatan who claims that it does. Not necessarily true. Entropy exists in our universe, but the PoE universe appears to be a different universe, governed by different physical laws. So maybe in the PoE universe entropy is just a myth. I don't think that's the case here, mainly because it doesn't fit what we know or what the games have been going for. They mention that the Engwithins found that there was only a "wheel" that slowly grinds souls away. That's very in line with entropy I think. The gradual but steady path to non-existence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldurs_gate_2 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 When this comes out, I hope there will be some change made to slow down the experience points gain. But, knowing how these things tend to work, there probably won't be. Hopefully there will be a mod that does it... or maybe it's easy enough to tweak on one's own. I really don't care about mods. I want to play the game, how the developers intented it (relating to difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Some thoughts on Rymrgand: If Rymrgand is just as fake as the other gods, then the inevitablity of universal heat death may also be a lie. however... There are more gods than there are alcoves in the Engwithan god-making machine... The Engwithan gods are representations of their cultural values turned up to 11. Iovara has a line at the end of the first game that explains this (paraphrasing her: “anything taken to an extreme becomes grotesque”). Every mythology has a creation myth and an “end of the world” myth. Rymrgand is the latter."Myth" being the key word here. Just because people believe it doesn't make it true. Rymrgand may well believe that his eventual victory is inevitable, but that doesn't make it true. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe Yeah, but what does that have to do with Rymrgand? Entropy existed before him, it will exist long after his death (which will predate the heat death of the universe by a long time). Entropy isn't dependent on his existence, he's merely a charlatan who claims that it does. Not necessarily true. Entropy exists in our universe, but the PoE universe appears to be a different universe, governed by different physical laws. So maybe in the PoE universe entropy is just a myth. I don't think that's the case here, mainly because it doesn't fit what we know or what the games have been going for. They mention that the Engwithins found that there was only a "wheel" that slowly grinds souls away. That's very in line with entropy I think. The gradual but steady path to non-existence. I don't think it's probable, either. But it is possible*. Just as it is possible that Rymrgand (or one of the other eleven) is not Engwithan. *One workaround for entropy comes from the Doctor Who story Logopolis: Open portals to other universes and allow negative entropy to blead through. 1 Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house2fly Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 When this comes out, I hope there will be some change made to slow down the experience points gain. But, knowing how these things tend to work, there probably won't be. Hopefully there will be a mod that does it... or maybe it's easy enough to tweak on one's own. I really don't care about mods. I want to play the game, how the developers intented it (relating to difficulty).the developers don't intend anything, give mods a whirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Since reaching 20, nothing can stand up to Empowered Greater Maelstorms...I was gibbing Eotans. Edited July 23, 2018 by Verde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkathellar Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Some thoughts on Rymrgand: If Rymrgand is just as fake as the other gods, then the inevitablity of universal heat death may also be a lie. however... There are more gods than there are alcoves in the Engwithan god-making machine... The Engwithan gods are representations of their cultural values turned up to 11. Iovara has a line at the end of the first game that explains this (paraphrasing her: “anything taken to an extreme becomes grotesque”). Every mythology has a creation myth and an “end of the world” myth. Rymrgand is the latter. "Myth" being the key word here. Just because people believe it doesn't make it true. Rymrgand may well believe that his eventual victory is inevitable, but that doesn't make it true. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe Yeah, but what does that have to do with Rymrgand? Entropy existed before him, it will exist long after his death (which will predate the heat death of the universe by a long time). Entropy isn't dependent on his existence, he's merely a charlatan who claims that it does. Does Rymrgand ever claim to be the cause of entropy? He very clearly enjoys entropy, and works in the interests of advancing it along his own inscrutable timeline, but I don't think there's any indication that he pretends to be its source. If I'm typing in red, it means I'm being sarcastic. But not this time. Dark green, on the other hand, is for jokes and irony in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheingold Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 My mistake. I do question why they felt like adding more great swords and not something else. I hope that's not the only new unique item the DLC brings to the table! That said, I love swords in general and great swords in particular because—you guessed it—they look cool. Not saying other weapons can't or don't look cool; swords just happen to fit my aesthetic narrative better than others so I won't complain if they throw more in. Though really, all I need is for them to fix the texture on the Sanguine Blade and give me a Sanguine Plate to go with it plus matching helm. Then I can be a happy red murderhobo. Oh I love them too, and I don't mind having more, I just feel Obsidian really ought to get to a point where there are at least three unique or soulbound of each weapon type (maybe just two for the less used weapons). I've no doubt there will be other uniques of course, I just found it funny that the one they showed in the stream was another great sword :D are we done with the spoilers lads... 1 "Those who look upon gods then say, without even knowing their names, 'He is Fire. She is Dance. He is Destruction. She is Love.' So, to reply to your statement, they do not call themselves gods. Everyone else does, though, everyone who beholds them.""So they play that on their fascist banjos, eh?""You choose the wrong adjective.""You've already used up all the others.” Lord of Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-Ben Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Does Rymrgand ever claim to be the cause of entropy? He very clearly enjoys entropy, and works in the interests of advancing it along his own inscrutable timeline, but I don't think there's any indication that he pretends to be its source. I think a lot of Gods pretend to be a little more grandiose than they really are. No doubt anyone here hasn't caught on that they put on airs. I'll be interested in seeing what Rymrgard has to say and if he's not just giving our Watchers the run around. Yes! We have no bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) My mistake. I do question why they felt like adding more great swords and not something else. I hope that's not the only new unique item the DLC brings to the table! That said, I love swords in general and great swords in particular because—you guessed it—they look cool. Not saying other weapons can't or don't look cool; swords just happen to fit my aesthetic narrative better than others so I won't complain if they throw more in. Though really, all I need is for them to fix the texture on the Sanguine Blade and give me a Sanguine Plate to go with it plus matching helm. Then I can be a happy red murderhobo. Oh I love them too, and I don't mind having more, I just feel Obsidian really ought to get to a point where there are at least three unique or soulbound of each weapon type (maybe just two for the less used weapons). I've no doubt there will be other uniques of course, I just found it funny that the one they showed in the stream was another great sword :D are we done with the spoilers lads... Heh. To be honest I only started it because people have been super sensitive to the tiniest spoilers . Edited July 23, 2018 by JerekKruger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 My mistake. I do question why they felt like adding more great swords and not something else. I hope that's not the only new unique item the DLC brings to the table! That said, I love swords in general and great swords in particular because—you guessed it—they look cool. Not saying other weapons can't or don't look cool; swords just happen to fit my aesthetic narrative better than others so I won't complain if they throw more in. Though really, all I need is for them to fix the texture on the Sanguine Blade and give me a Sanguine Plate to go with it plus matching helm. Then I can be a happy red murderhobo. Oh I love them too, and I don't mind having more, I just feel Obsidian really ought to get to a point where there are at least three unique or soulbound of each weapon type (maybe just two for the less used weapons). I've no doubt there will be other uniques of course, I just found it funny that the one they showed in the stream was another great sword :D are we done with the spoilers lads... Hey. To be honest I only started it because people have been super sensitive to the tiniest spoilers. I can’t believe you just used the word “spoilers”. This is supposed to be a non-spoiler forum. FFS! 3 "Art and song are creations but so are weapons and lies" "Our worst enemies are inventions of the mind. Pleasure. Fear. When we see them for what they are, we become unstoppable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I can’t believe you just used the word “spoilers”. This is supposed to be a non-spoiler forum. FFS! Good point. I've edited my post the fix my mistake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acbatchelor Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I can’t believe you just used the word “spoilers”. This is supposed to be a non-spoiler forum. FFS! Good point. I've edited my post the fix my mistake You hid the word "Spoilers" with "Spoiler". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 You hid the word "Spoilers" with "Spoiler". If I could I'd spoiler block the title of the spoiler block hiding my use of the word spoilers, but alas I cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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