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Patch 1.2.0 Updates Thread


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Hello Beta Folk!
 
The Team has been working hard on getting Version 1.2 ready. This is a bigger patch stuffed with a bunch of fixes, some new features, and some balance changes (see notes below). Windows and OSX version are now available on the beta branches on both Steam and GOG. Linux needs to have an issue resolved before we can add that to the beta for Steam.
 
We'd really like your help in making sure that these changes & fixes are not having any unintended effects on your game. Specifically, please keep an eye out for:

  • Cases where click-ables cannot be clicked (related to our Fog of War changes)
  • Class/abilities not working correctly (related to our changes for Mod support)

Thank you so much for your help in testing out these beta patches! 


UPDATE: 6/28

Hello all! 

 

We are placing an updated build onto the beta branches of Steam and GOG.

 

Build 1.2.0.0009 Updates

  • Linux Build is now available!
           If you have any issues with this Linux update, please try restarting your steam client.
  • Deleting mods, using the up/down arrows for load priority, and clicking the refresh button now work properly.
  • Fixed a rare issue where sometimes save games couldn't be loaded.
  • Fugue Spore poison Charm effect has been changed to Confused and its duration has been slightly increased.
  • Resolved an issue where some entries in the Companion Relationship history UI were blank.
  • Sungrazer Flail Extinction Event can no longer trigger off of its own attack.
  • All consumables now have a scaling keyword on their base ability to ensure that each one properly benefits from scaling.
  • Scroll of Circle of Protection will now play VFX properly and end its duration.
  • Scroll of the Helpless Beast is now PL 0 and scales only with Arcana and Power Level bonuses.
  • Potion of Form of the Fearsome Brute no longer scales its Ogre form passive effects based on attributes.
  • Frost Bomb is now properly set to PL 0, so it will no longer receive scaling penalties.
  • Wahai Poraga now has the correct Penetration value from pollaxe data.



Build 1.2.0.0008 Updates

New Features

  • Added mod support for character backgrounds, voice sets, and Classes.
  • Mod Manager added!
    • We have just put in a Mod Manager to work with Nexus Mods. We're still working out the kinks though. Here are some of the known issues we are working on.
    • Known Issues:
      • Unable to delete mods, refresh list or move mods on priority list.
      • View Documentation button leads you to eternity.obsidian.net.
      • Part of UI does not scale properly at low resolutions.
      • Localized text is not yet in.
      • Long titles are displayed in very tiny font.
  • The Player Stash now has a search feature.
  • Holding shift while selling things from your stash will now add items without prompting the player about stack sizes.
  • Reputation screen now displays the player choices that led to changes with the companions's relationship.
  • New UI for Crew Injuries has been Added.
  • Added UI to recommend which companions to bring on quests relevant to those companions.

Major Fixes

  • Fixed an issue where party members who were knocked out during a save state would be dead but still be in the party upon loading the save.
  • Players no longer spiritshift when drinking from the pool at Outcast's Respite.  This was causing issues with equipment missing upon loading a save where the user was spiritshifted.
  • Various CPU performance improvements have been made across the game.

Companions/Crew

  • Players can no longer pickpocket their party members that aren't in the current party.
  • Fixed an issue where Vela would disappear from the player ship when wanting to bark at a party member.
  • Xoti no longer gain's anti-Eothas disposition when talking to Waenglith.

User Interface

  • The tool tip that breaks down player health in the character sheet now displays the proper amount of health.
  • All active animal companion abilities now properly display on both the Ranger and animal companion ability bars.
  • Fixed problems with the ability bar detecting the active/queued state of modal abilities in no modal group.

Quests

 

  • Hazanui will now properly move to the brass citadel docks to show you the submarine if you return to her at the Rauataian HQ after dealing with the queen/prince.
  • Dispatching Hamuto after intimidating his men will no longer break Bertenno's reaction when the fight ends.
  • Captain Vilami will no longer talk about setting an ambush at the vault if peace has been achieved between the Valeras and the Bardattos.
  • Fixed conversation with Nemnok where conversation would end prematurely and quest would not progress.
  • Pirates loyal to Furrante in Balefire Beacon during Aeldys' release from the tower will no longer remain hostile after Aeldys returns to the Consuaglo to take control of the faction.
  • Undercroft pirates will return to being peaceful, once, if you had run into hostilities with them and then received Goods and Services from Aeldys. The pirates won't tolerate a second attack even if working for Aeldys or Mad Morena
  • Ensured that Lil Woody appears in Dunnage if The Man of Chimes quest is at the appropriate stage.
  • Prince Aruhi won't assume to have given you Trade Secrets if you've found the Undercroft before you talk to him and choose to leave his intro conversation without receiving Trade Secrets.
  • If players chose to siphon Sciorielaphas' soul and set him free, they will no longer improperly see him in the scene after leaving and returning to the Guild Ruins.
  • Ensured that Benweth disappears from the Court if he was summoned there for the party and then to the ramparts after his ship is stolen.
  • Shadow Under Neketaka will now always update properly when arriving to Mairu

 


 
Miscellaneous

  • Sky Dragon Wurmling pet now properly appears when importing Pillars of Eternity 1 saves
  • Fog of War & Line of sight calculations have been made more precise.
  • Player Ship now always displays a World Map icon (addresses rare instances where the game could get stuck in this state previously)
  • Heart of Fury has been removed from the default AI behavior so as not to proc too soon and use rage when enemies are not in melee.
  • Close to Board now deals less damage to player ships to better match a player continuously moving at Full Sail.
  • The in-game year has been fixed to show the year 2828.
  • Enemies affected by Dismissal no longer stay alive and become permanently untargetable.
  • Monastic Unarmed Training now replaces the character's default unarmed attack with the base Monk attack.
  • 2H Melee Weapons have each received +1 additional Penetration.
  • Effigy's Resentment Zahua +15% Buff Duration -> +5%.
  • Effigy's Resentment Caroc +1 Pen While Stealthed -> +1 Weapon Penetration vs Kith.
  • Charmed is now removed if the charmed character is damaged by their new allies.
  • Alchemy Skill no longer affects "Poison" keyworded spells and abilities. (It still affects applied poison consumables)
  • Prices of Galleon and Junk ships have been doubled.
  • FogOfWar now resets its "Disabled" state when OnGameStateReset events are called.
  • Consumables are no longer affected by Might, Intellect, or Perception bonuses.
  • Consumables now only scale up from their respective skill and status effects that modify Power Level (they are longer affected by character level).
  • Consumable effects were also re-balanced to scale from base level 0 upwards (to match skill advancement from 0). This will also prevent penalties from appearing when using higher skill items.
  • Figurine Items are now charged items with an additional limit of 1/Rest use.
  • Class Role entries are no longer hidden in the glossary.
  • Marine Godlike Water immunity now only applies to hostile effects.
  • Removed game data related to cut ability "Gift of Hope".
  • Spoilers:
    • Nemnok's party wide effect now lasts as long as he is equipped.
    • Party members are no longer incorrectly indicating that they want to talk upon arriving in Ukaizo.
    • Achievement "Infamous Captain" should now properly complete as soon as players get into combat with their crew during a mutiny.
    • Arquebus "The Red Hand" is now obtainable in Ermezzo's storeroom.
    • Modwyr's Eager Lover bonus can now only be gained when attacking hostile characters preventing players from exploiting and going into combat with the beneficial effect.
    • Fixed exploit where players could obtain infinite experience by unlocking Castol's office door, then save, load the save, then unlock the door again.
    • Fixed an issue where players could have their party members run past the scene barrier and not be seen in the Old City.
    • Yellow-Eye Three will no longer confront you about sneaking around if you've received Arkemyr's invitation.
    • The hidden door in the Drowned Barrows no longer displays and allows players to transition to the next area without triggering the hidden switch.

Class Changes



Fighter

  • Power Strike and Staggered Strike AOE is now Foe Only.
  • Unbending Discipline Cost 3 -> 2.
  • Unbending Shield Discipline Cost 3 -> 2.
  • Unbending Trunk Discipline Cost 3 -> 2.
  • Refreshing Defense - Concentration bonus now also refreshes duration.
  • Refreshing Defense - No longer caps at +10 seconds (5 hits).

Barbarian

  • Barbarian Frenzy abilities now properly check subclass for visibility, not ability ownership. (Berserkers should now be able to properly select Frenzy upgrades)
  • Leap and Panther's Leap are now Loud on impact, Dragon's Leap is now Extremely Loud on impact.
  • Heart of Fury is no longer included the default Barbarian Aggressive Behavior set.

Rogue

  • Trickster Gaze of the Adragan Guile Cost 3 -> 2.
  • Trickster Wall of Many Colors Guile Cost 4 -> 3.
  • Trickster Sneak Attack penalty -20% Damage -> -10%.
  • Trickster now also acquires wizard illusion spells at PL 2, 4, 6, and 8.
  • Eliminating Blow only applies Shaken to secondary targets, as suggested by its upgrade string.

Paladin

  • Shieldbearer LoH prevent death Duration 5s -> 4s.
  • Virtuous Triumph 100% Zeal on Kill -> 25% Chance on Kill.
  • Hands of Light Zeal Cost 1 -> 2.
  • Greater Lay on Hands Zeal Cost 1 -> 2.
  • Enemy Paladin AI now shares AI cooldowns between different Lay on Hands types.

Ranger

  • Binding Roots now has the Plant keyword.
  • Thorny Roots now has the Plant keyword.
  • Thorny Roots Penetration 0 -> 7.
  • Master's Call and Binding Roots are no longer mutually exclusive with each other.
  • Marked Prey and Marked for the Hunt can no longer be empowered, since they gain nothing from additional PL.
  • Evasive Fire - Base damage from 20 to 36 -> 15 to 20.

Monk

  • Torment's Reach no longer mentions deprecated Crush damage
  • Torment’s Reach now targets Deflection on the primary target
  • Torment’s Reach now benefits from +25% weapon damage.
  • Torment's Reach and Raised Torment no longer Stagger or Stun the primary target.
  • Rooting Pain - 100% Chance on Wound -> 25%.
  • Flagellant's Path now deals only crush damage to enemies in the path, instead of Full Attacks. Launching Kick now also deals the crush damage as well, as intended.

Chanter

  • The Lights Danced Across the Moor summons now use the appropriate wisp character stats (with distract attack).
  • Seven Nights She Waited projectiles destroy after hitting a target.
  • Her Tears Fell Like Rain projectiles destroy after hitting a target.
  • Her Tears Fell Like Rain secondary damage 15 to 23 -> 6 to 12.
  • At The Sound of His Voice The Killers Froze Stiff 6s Paralyze -> 4s.
  • And Their Fear Followed 6s Paralyze -> 4s.
  • And Their Fear Followed Phrase Cost 4 -> 3.
  • Hel-Hyraf and its upgrade now target Deflection.
  • And Evil Turned Away From The Sun now properly grants immunity to resolve afflictions and properly damages Spirits and Vessels, it now also no longer gains additional projectiles from PL scaling.

Priest

  • Iconic Projection now extends its attack information to the attack bar tooltip.
  • Suppress Affliction 5m Range -> 8m.
  • Barbs of Condemnation -5 Defenses -> -10.
  • Holy Meditation 10s Duration -> 15s.
  • Repulsing Seal Interrupt (Prone) on Hit -> Graze.
  • Warding Seal Penetration 7 -> 9.
  • Priest of Wael variant of "Gaze of the Adragan" is now defined as PL 7 (the same level it is acquired).
  • Barring Death's Door 10s Duration -> 8s.
  • Triumph of the Crusaders base Healing 200 -> 80.
  • Divine Terror 15s Duration Frighten -> 20s.
  • Magran's Faith Attuned Proc status effect now stacks up to 2 times to support dual wielding weapons with the exact same effect.

Druid

  • Spiritshift will now continue to provide equipment bonuses while in spiritshift form (excluding armor and weapons).
  • Spiritshift no longer scales duration with Power Level (Form Weapons and Armor will still scale).

Wizard

  • Citzal's Enchanted Armory no longer removes all of the Wizard's other equipment.
  • Flame Shield now extends its attack information to the attack bar tooltip.
  • Form of the Fearsome Brute will now continue to provide equipment bonuses while in ogre form (excluding armor and weapons).
  • Confusion Slow Cast -> Average Cast.
  • Confusion Fast Recovery -> Average Recovery.
  • Concelhaut's Draining Missiles now properly returns health for each missile that impacts the target.
  • Gaze of the Adragan Slow Cast -> Average.
  • Substantial Phantom unique progression table now grants the proper wizard spells and wizard AI necessary to cast Minoletta's Minor Missiles, Necrotic Lance, and Arduous Delay of Motion.
  • Essential Phantom and Substantial Phantom now receive copies of the wizard's weapons when summoned.
  • Wall of Force now uses the proper icon for its trap ability.
  • Minoletta's Concussive Missiles 5 Projectiles Base -> 3.
  • Minoletta's Concussive Missiles Base Damage 10 to 13 -> 7 to 10.
  • Minoletta's Concussive Missiles AOE Base Damage 7 to 8 -> 4 to 6.
  • Deleterious Alacrity of Motion to also grant +15% Action Speed.
  • Deleterious Alacrity of Motion effects now all have the same base duration.
  • Wizard Subclass +20% Recovery Time -> +10%.
  • Reordered Wizard Subclass effects to show bonuses before penalties.
  • Wizard Subclass +1PL -> +2 PL.
  • Kalakoth's Minor Blights +20 Accuracy removed from attack.
  • Kalakoth's Minor Blights 5 Penetration -> 7 Penetration.
  • Kalakoth's Minor Blights 10m range -> 8m.
  • Ryngrim's Enervating Terror Average Cast -> Slow Cast.
  • Ryngrim's Enervating Terror Average Recovery -> Fast Recovery.
  • Ryngrim's Enervating Terror Duration 20s -> 15s.
  • Ryngrim's Enervating Terror 2.5m Radius -> 1.5m Radius.
  • Ryngrim's Enervating Terror 20m Range -> 8m.
  • Caedebald's Blackbow Terrify on Hit now vs Will.
  • Wall of Draining's negative effects are now set to Hostile and will properly break stealth if cast on an enemy.
  • Wizard's Double is now overridden to not be able to be empowered, since it gains nothing from additional PL.

Cipher

  • Mental Binding Cast Speed Average -> Fast.
  • Mental Binding Recovery Fast -> Average.
  • Mental Binding 6s Immobilize Duration -> 10s.
  • Reaping Knives Attack Speed Average -> Fast.
  • Fractured Volition 15s Duration -> 20s.
  • Body Attunement 15s Duration -> 20s.
  • The spell "Tactical Meld" is now available during cipher progression.
  • Tactical Meld +1 Engagement Limit -> +3.
  • Screaming Souls base Raw Damage 15 to 25 - > 30 to 50.
  • Screaming Souls Distract Duration 8s -> 18s. 
  • Secret Horrors Duration 12s -> 15s.
  • Defensive Mindweb Average Recovery -> Fast.
  • Pain Link Duration 12s -> 15s.
  • Echoing Horror Frighten Duration 8s -> 12s.
  • Haunting Chains Duration 18s -> 20s.
  • Tenacious Grasp 15s base duration -> 20s.
  • Eyestrike Slow Cast Speed -> Average.
  • Mind Plague 12s Duration -> 15s.
  • Whisper of Treason 20s base duration -> 15s.
  • Puppet Master 20s base duration -> 15s.
  • Ringleader 20s base durations -> 15s.
  • Whisper of Treason 10m Range -> 4m.
  • Puppetmaster 5m Range -> 8m.
  • Wild Leech Recovery Average -> Fast.
  • Wild Leech Duration 15s -> 30s.
  • Borrowed Instinct Duration 30s -> 20s.
  • Ancestor's Honor is now Ancestor's Memory and now grants the Brilliant Inspiration for 12s instead of +1 Empower Point.
  • Eyestrike AOE Size Small -> Medium.
  • Mind Wave AOE Size Medium -> Large.
  • Defensive Mindweb AOE Size Medium -> Large.
  • Detonate now checks that health is below 25% not that it is below 25 value.

 


 
Item Changes

 

  • Visage of Concelhaut pet item summon is no longer considered a "Conjuration" spell, and therefore restricted to Evokers.
  • Bardatto's Luxury Nobility and Untouchable are now visible in UI.
  • Chromoprismatic Quarterstaff base penetration and damage increased to match other quarterstaves.
  • Potion of Ascension +1 PL -> +2.
  • Animancer's Energy Blade Base Damage 5 to 8 -> 10 to 14.
  • Engwithan Bracers Petrified Guard once again grants Resistance against Dexterity Afflictions.
  • Potion of the Fearsome Brute no longer fires exception errors when inspected.
  • Removed duplicate Wind, Electricity, Water, and Fire keywords on Scroll of Great Maelstrom.
  • Avenging Storm Scroll no longer references missing game data.
  • Etonia's Signet Ring display string is now updated to reflect +2 All Defenses per stack.
  • Scroll of Major Healing base heal value 60 -> 90.
  • Scroll of Circle of Protection should now properly end and its VFX should display correctly.
  • Scroll of Pillar of Holy Fire Base Penetration 5 -> 7.
  • Scroll of Embrace of the Earth Talon Base Penetration 7 -> 9.
  • Scroll of Embrace of the Earth Talon Accuracy Bonus 5 -> 0.
  • Scroll of Meteor Shower Accuracy Bonus 3 -> 0.
  • Scroll of Meteor Shower Best of Burn/Crush -> Burn.
  • Scroll of Ray of Fire Base Penetration 10 -> 7.
  • Scroll of Rusted Armor Accuracy Bonus 5 -> 0.
  • Scroll of Tornado Accuracy Bonus 5 -> 0.
  • Scroll of Tornado Base Penetration 5 -> 7.
  • Scroll of Torrent of Flame Accuracy Bonus 5 -> 0.
  • Scroll of Wilting Wind Accuracy Bonus 3 -> 0.
  • Scroll of Winter Wind no longer has a duplicate Frost Keyword.
  • Remove double dip scaling from Scrolls of Healing.
  • Removed overridden scaling from all poison effects.
  • Removed overridden scaling from all potion effects.
  • Removed overridden scaling from all drug effects.
  • Dragon's Dowry Blazing Fury only accelerates its own attacks.
  • Final Stand Potion 10s Duration -> 6s.
  • Sungrazer Flail - Extinction Event no longer chains off of its own kills.
  • Sungrazer Flail - Extincting Event Base Damage 20 to 30 -> 15 to 25.
  • Sungrazer Flail - Meteoric only procs off of Sungrazer attacks.
  • Potion of Imperfect Arcane Reflection 75% Chance to reflect -> 50%.
  • Potion of Impediment 45% Chance to interrupt on hit -> 30%.
  • Gosha Pet 10% Crit to Hit Party Wide -> 5%.
  • Whispers of Yenwood - Reliable 50% Miss to Graze -> 25%.
  • Grimoire of Vaporous Wizardry is now marked unique.
  • Healing Hands - Lesser Lay on Hands base Heal/tick 8 -> 12.
  • Fugue Spores Poison has been changed from Charm to Confusion and its duration has been increased.
  • Implosion Charge Base Damage (per pulse) 20 to 25 -> 5 to 10.
  • Implosion Charge Hobbled Duration (per pulse) 20s -> 12s.
  • Sparkcrackers Attack Distance 10m -> 8m (in line with all other bombs).
  • Lightning Bomb Paralyze Duration (per pulse) 6s -> 3s.
  • Lightning Bomb Base Damage (per pulse) 15 to 25 -> 10 to 15.
  • Immolator Bomb Base Damage (per pulse) 10 to 20 -> 8 to 12.
  • Cinder Bomb Blinded Duration (per pulse) 12s -> 8s.
  • Blister Bomb Weakened Duration (per pulse) 15s -> 8s.
  • Blister Bomb Base Damage (per pulse) 10 to 20 -> 7 to 10.
  • Frost Bomb Base Damage (per pulse) 15 to 30 -> 6 to 14.
  • Frost Bomb Base Penetration 5 -> 7.
  • Frost Bomb Immobilized Duration (per pulse) 12s -> 8s.
  • Frost Bomb Attack Speed Duration (per pulse) 12s -> 8s.
  • Ball and Chain Subjugation Interrupt on Crit now properly applies a Prone Interrupt (vs Fort), rather than deprecated Knockdown effect.
  • Ball and Chain Subjugation effect will now properly trigger with barbarian Brute Force attacks.
  • Mohora Tanga Harpooning Penetration bonus now correctly only affects Mohora Tanga.
  • Scepter Destructive Channeling +2 Penetration -> +1.
  • Aloth's Armor Structurally Stable - All AR bonuses to +2 AR. (Some were +3).
  • Aloth's Armor Causally Fixed Bonus Defenses +5 -> +10.
  • Aloth's Armor Causally Fixed Pierce/Slash AR +2 -> +1.
  • Blightheart Tainted Being Corrode Proc now only applies to spells.
  • Mantle of the Seven Bolts - Storm of Seven Bolts now has the Electricity Keyword.
  • Mantle of the Seven Bolts - Storm of the Seven Bolts no longer scales number of projectiles.
  • Mantle of the Seven Bolts - Final Storm AOE now has the Electricity Keyword.
  • Soul Strike is now also 1/Rest (as is Soul Smite).
  • Shout of hosts on Heaven's Cacophony is now properly set to 1/Rest.
  • Deltro's Caged Helm now uses longest duration effect, instead of stacking.
  • Mohora Tanga Gaff ability is now usable once per rest.
  • Accuracy bonus removed from Bounding Strikes AOE on Eager Blade.
  • Nemnok's Party effects now last as long as Nemnok is equipped and no longer display on the party portraits.
  • Acolyte's Frostbite Vengeful Cold ability is no longer hidden from the inspect UI.
  • Modwyr's Eager Lover bonus can only be gained when attacking hostile characters.
  • Lord Darryn’s Voulge:
    • Corsairs AOE now strikes only hostiles.
    • Now has the Electricity keyword, as does Static Charge effect.
    • Static Charge now only applies to those that have charged stacks on them.
    • Static Charge trigger effect no longer deals extra damage in addition to the charged stack damage.
    • Static Charge no longer uses Resonant Touch VFX and instead displays Shock VFX on affected targets.
    • Static Charge is now considered a hostile effect.

 

 

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  • Modwyr's Eager Lover bonus can only be gained when attacking hostile characters.

Alright, fess up. Which sick **** necessitated this change. If it were anything but Modwyr I would merely think creative use of game mechanics. This is much darker.

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subbing.

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A lot of those cipher changes are positives BUT

 

Haunting Chains [tier 9] is single single-target-only and thus objectively worse than Wizard's Ryngrim's Enervating Terror [[Tier 5]
 
Defensive Mindweb still breaks on any damage taken, i.e., including grazes, rendering it useless on higher difficulties (unless you are munchkin-building your whole party to an absurd degree)
 
Wild Leech is still tier 1 / tier 1 and thus not worthwhile ; it needs to be tier 3 / tier 3
 
Body Attunement [Tier 4] is still single-target and thus objectively worse than Hel-Hyraf's [Tier 1] or Expose Vulnerabilities [Tier 3]  (And no, the "spirit shield, but weaker" self buff does not balance this out; I'd suggest bumping the effect to -3/+3)
 
Cipher high-level power roster is still dramatically shorter than any other casting class
 
Cipher abilities still lack appropriate keywording (i.e., "Acid" on antipathetic field; "fire" on Soul Ignition); alternatively, where are the items with bonuses to "Shred" etc?
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"Figurine Items are now charged items with an additional limit of 1/Rest use"

 

Why do the have charges? It's a single player game, surely a nerf like this doesn't need to happen?

It's about balance in order for the content to be interesting to everyone. That's hard enough to do with the wide range of levels a character might have in any given encounter, especially late- and mid-game.

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I agree with most of the changes, BUT:

 

- I echo Dr. Hieronymous’ sentiment re Ciphers.

- Virtuous Triumph and Rooting Pain are over-nerfed. Why isn’t it obvious that going from 100% to 25% is too radical? Now those abilities aren’t worth spending a point on unless there’s literally nothing else to take.

- I was hoping to see some of the previous gratuitous over-nerfs revised but alas, was I mistaken.

 

Been a while since I last checked Form of the Fearsome Brute. Do its armor and weapons scale with level now? Does its armor have recovery penalty consistent with other armors (as opposed to the 100% leftover from the early beta days)?

 

- Aspect of Galawain and Citzal’s Enchanted Armory are still underwhelming for tier-9 spells. Really not the kind that makes you wish you went with single class.

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Good, I personally agreed with all changes

Big nerf for explosion/consumable based builds 
Big nerf for Druid builds

Hello  better spiritshift builds

> Deltro's Caged Helm now uses longest duration effect, instead of stacking.

> Lord Darryn’s Voulge

Bye lighting builds :(

 

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Spiritshift still has the completely uncalled-for nerf to Wildstrike, though. That completely puts me off playing a shifting-based build regardless of the fact that they now retain item bonuses.

 

I also see absolutely no reason to remove power-level scaling from Spiritshift duration. Really an unnecessary nerf to something that wasn’t OP in the first place.

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— Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears

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Can someone explain what overridden scaling means?

 

Does it mean that drug potency no longer scales with the Alchemy skill?

 

For example, at 12 Alchemy "Taru Taru Chew" used to give (+6 Might, Constitution, Dexterity) but now only gives (+3 Might, Constitution, Dexterity) in game.

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Spiritshift still has the completely uncalled-for nerf to Wildstrike, though. That completely puts me off playing a shifting-based build regardless of the fact that they now retain item bonuses.

 

I also see absolutely no reason to remove power-level scaling from Spiritshift duration. Really an unnecessary nerf to something that wasn’t OP in the first place.

does spirit shift still scale with level in terms of damage done and armor rating ect?

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I would expect so, since no change to that was listed.

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— Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears

My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus

 

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The Wildstrike nerf was in patch 1.1.

"Time is not your enemy. Forever is."

— Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment

"It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers."

— Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears

My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus

 

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Nice balance changes. Do like most of class related ones, especially fighter, trickster, druid and cipher.

 

There are a few questionable updates through:

  • Ryngrim's Enervating Terror - cast time (average->slow) and aoe nerf (2.5 -> 1.5)

    - this is a plain overnerf

  • Triumph of the Crusaders - healing nerfed by x2.5

    - is also a bit too harsh. It belongs to tier 4 which contains the beacon and devotions. It was already hard to justify taking and using triumph over them.

  • And Their Fear Followed 6s Paralyze -> 4s

    - this also feels like a little bit overnerf. It's hard to justify taking cc with such low durations unless they have a decent bonus to accuracy.

  • Whisper of Treason - range nerf.

    - tbh I'd prefer it to keep it's original range, get it's duration nerfed even more (down to 12s), (optionally) move it to tier 2 powers, but (!) have a +10 bonus to accuracy or make it benefit twice from character perception bonus.

  • Greater Lay on Hands Zeal Cost 1 -> 2.

    - I find that it was very good at 1 zeal. While at 2 it is too costly. The upgrade bonus needs to be buffed slightly to compensate for the practically doubled cost.

P.S. It would be also nice to see the Draining Whip nerfed from +100% focus gain -> +80% or +70%, but have the base damage of cipher powers buffed by ~20%.

At the moment, you have plenty of focus as cipher, but the damaging powers are not worthy enough.

The idea is to shift the situation a bit towards what we had in PoE1: if you have figured out how to optimize the focus gain, you are rewarded with ability to cast powerful stuff.

 

P.P.S. I also echo Dr. Hieronymous Alloy remark about the need of keywords on ciphers powers (fire on Soul Ignition, acid/corrode on Anti.Field, etc).

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Looks good, ciphers are substantially more useful now (hello Mental Binding). Still think Mind Wave should have a drop in cast or recovery time.

 

Flagellant's Path now deals only crush damage to enemies in the path, instead of Full Attacks.

The description no longer labels it a Full Attack but it still appears to do so to the target? Might be a bug with the text as one of the upgrades still lists it as a Full Attack. 

 

Two bugs I came across:

  • Portraits on the character page seem to be higher contrast and de-saturated.
  • Level Up indicators (glowing yellow) seem to stay once you've leveled up even when reloading.
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Why do you hate Minoletta's Concussive Missiles so much? This spell is decent at best already, and you're nerfing it again. Come on.

 

Virtuous Triumph nerf is ridiculous, at least make it 50%, don't just make the skill completely worthless. A bunch of nerfs and no consideration for the fact that most mid-to-high tier Paladin abilities are garbage? Sure, I guess nerfing is easier.

 

Fortunately, there are some good things here. DAoM is now a decent buff. And Ciphers feel like auto-include in any group now due to Ancestor's Memory.

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"Figurine Items are now charged items with an additional limit of 1/Rest use"

 

Why do the have charges? It's a single player game, surely a nerf like this doesn't need to happen?

One approach encourages mindless spamming, whereas the other encourages careful planning. Which of these do you find preferable?

 

Figurines were OP. If it's just a 'single-player game', and you don't mind overpowered items/abilities, then just use the Unity console mod and cheat like your life depends on it. 

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  • And Their Fear Followed 6s Paralyze -> 4s

    - this also feels like overnerf. It's hard to justify taking cc with such low durations unless they have huge bonus to accuracy.

Paralysis is a tier-3 affliction that Chanters gain access to (with a large cone AoE) early on in the game. A high-INT Skald could keep entire groups of enemies perma-paralyzed. I nerfed it personally a couple of days after the game's release (lowered the cone AoE, and reduced the duration to 3s). The invocation (in its current state) is still way too powerful for such a cheap low-level ability.

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