marimo Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I have a sneaking suspicion, given all the content on his -1/-2 branch and the big deal they made in marketing about him not being the same meek guy anymore, that they want Aloth to be this difficult to please, and it's not a bug at all. We shall see... He still dies though in the epilogue if you don't do his quest... So idk if not meek means just being an ass WAT???? Lacking a watcher to read the Wahaki leader's soul, all he can find out is that Thaos clearly influenced the tribe, but fails to find out how or why before the Wahaki grow too suspicious of him and his sighs. Unfortunately, it turns out he can't turn away Wahaki spears with his sighs, which probably gave him quite a pained look. IIRC he dies this same way during the game if you refuse to let him join you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotharingia Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 EH! Why are they helbent on killing Aloth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marimo Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 EH! Why are they helbent on killing Aloth? I think he might be cursed and you are the only thing standing between him and certain doom, lol. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctoi Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I have a sneaking suspicion, given all the content on his -1/-2 branch and the big deal they made in marketing about him not being the same meek guy anymore, that they want Aloth to be this difficult to please, and it's not a bug at all. We shall see... Yep, I've suspected for a while he's supposed to be like that. Doesn't stop me sighing through my nose about it xD *CENIC gives you a pained look. *Noctoi Sighs and pinches the bridge of her nose... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taevyr Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 EH! Why are they helbent on killing Aloth? Its Aloth, living among a proud tribe of highly traditional natives connected to the leaden key. It's a miracle he spent over an hour there without lecturing them about being too traditional, though that could explain why he got killed. Could become quite a running joke for the franchise though: "how will we save Aloth from certain death this game?" We could get an entire DLC finding out why the universe wants him dead! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlonniel Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Aloth was supposed to die in a freak training accident back in Aedyr, but somehow he managed to escape and Berath's been after him ever since... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marimo Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Aloth was supposed to die in a freak training accident back in Aedyr, but somehow he managed to escape and Berath's been after him ever since... PoE 3 will just basically be Life is Strange but in Eora Edited June 9, 2018 by marimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalchic Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I've updated my mod to work with the new patch for those interested - let me know if you are still having issues as I haven't tested it thoroughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yria Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Aloth REALLY doesn't want to like me. Or maybe my Watcher is finally done with his attitude? post-51558-0-43571900-1528072243.jpg I just got the same bug, so whatever is causing it, it wasn't fixed in the latest patch. Guess I'm having another no-Aloth-in-my-party playthrough. Sigh. Edited June 12, 2018 by Yria 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) I swear that Aloth was eyerolling over things NPCs were saying, not me. Like I would ask a question, the NPC would answer, and I'd get a nose sigh out of it if the NPC was too snarky in replying. Not companions, regular NPCs- so it could only be directed at me, right? Diva. Edited June 12, 2018 by Celan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aridea Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I swear that Aloth was eyerolling over things NPCs were saying, not me. Like I would ask a question, the NPC would answer, and I'd get a nose sigh out of it if the NPC was too snarky in replying. Not companions, regular NPCs- so it could only be directed at me, right? Diva. Certain options, like asking "why do you need a Watcher to do this" were treated by him as showing Pride. Technically they are innocent and you may pick them without thinking that you are too good for this job. It makes sense and at the same time it doesn't. You do lose rep that way though. Other times when there were random occurrences which made zero sense, I checked with console, and they didn't affect his disposition. So even though he sighs, rolls his eyes, massages his temples or whatever else, the disposition stays the same. 1 Emissary Tar: At last, someone who looks like they could be of some assistance! The assorted boobs and dimwits around here have been of very little help. Charname: I’m afraid you have mistaken us for someone else. I’m Dimwit, this is my good friend Boob, and behind me you’ll find Brainless and Moron. How do you do? Custom-painted portraits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlonniel Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Some things that do change his opinion aren't showing up, some things that don't change his opinion do show up. I think he's secretly a priest of Wael. Or a Wael godlike, who, it turns out, look exactly like normal people so they can cause maximum confusion. Edited June 13, 2018 by Tarlonniel 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotharingia Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 I've had all sorts of random reactions from Aloth. IDK if they affect his disposition or not, but a lot of them that definitely affect it positively and negatively are debatable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugarup Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I cheated up his disposition up to 2 on my Bleak Walker/Corpse Eater (garbage kit by the way, don't take it for other than RP purposes) just to see how fast Corpsey's disgusting cruel ways will make him to drop to -2. ...what do you know, he reaps so much approval my goody two shoes diplo/benevolent previous character never even dared to dream about. Eder, on the other hand, is unhappy -- crack jokes all you want, but threaten to sew boots out of one wolf... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yria Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I think he's secretly a priest of Wael. Or a Wael godlike, who, it turns out, look exactly like normal people so they can cause maximum confusion. That would explain why his -1 speech bugged out on my priest of Wael run. He just doesn't like competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctoi Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) I cheated up his disposition up to 2 on my Bleak Walker/Corpse Eater (garbage kit by the way, don't take it for other than RP purposes) just to see how fast Corpsey's disgusting cruel ways will make him to drop to -2. ...what do you know, he reaps so much approval my goody two shoes diplo/benevolent previous character never even dared to dream about. Eder, on the other hand, is unhappy -- crack jokes all you want, but threaten to sew boots out of one wolf... Awww that conversation! I SO wished I could snap back! I mean really... would he prefer I threaten the puppy and ultimately leave it alive thanks to my slightly distasteful but effective subterfuge... or that I simply kill it with a tonking great fireball along with its master??? Edited June 13, 2018 by Noctoi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotharingia Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 Soo, what conversation are you on about? I don't recall thereatening anyone's wolf xD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wRAR Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Soo, what conversation are you on about? I don't recall thereatening anyone's wolf xD North of Queen's Berth, the shipwright quest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctoi Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Soo, what conversation are you on about? I don't recall thereatening anyone's wolf xD Like wRAR mentioned, it's in the shipwright quest, down the alley way near queens berth. The thug threatens you with sicking his wolf on your party. They were significantly higher level than me when I met them so I "bluffed" with a threat to make boots out of his wolf if he tried it. Eder about had a stroke and went from +2 to neutral in one dialogue option lol. Tosser I really wanted to like him, I really truly tried.... but alas bigoted self centered idiocy eventually overcame my watcher's ability to ignore the insult to his friends and personal safety. Edited June 13, 2018 by Noctoi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotharingia Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 Soo, what conversation are you on about? I don't recall thereatening anyone's wolf xD Like wRAR mentioned, it's in the shipwright quest, down the alley way near queens berth. The thug threatens you with sicking his wolf on your party. They were significantly higher level than me when I met them so I "bluffed" with a threat to make boots out of his wolf if he tried it. Eder about had a stroke and went from +2 to neutral in one dialogue option lol. Tosser I really wanted to like him, I really truly tried.... but alas bigoted self centered idiocy eventually overcame my watcher's ability to ignore the insult to his friends and personal safety. Oh, I just always do what Serafen says xD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aridea Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Oh, I just always do what Serafen says xD Technically you don't have to, you can just go to the shipwright and pay for the cannons yourself completely subverting the Principi. The shipwright likes you more and you get a higher discount too I think, 10% vs 5% if you coerce him to work with pirates. You can also threaten the wolf with your own animal companion (wolf in my case), basically saying my wolf will wipe the floor with yours. Its immensely gratifying, but Eder still disapproves like crazy. 1 Emissary Tar: At last, someone who looks like they could be of some assistance! The assorted boobs and dimwits around here have been of very little help. Charname: I’m afraid you have mistaken us for someone else. I’m Dimwit, this is my good friend Boob, and behind me you’ll find Brainless and Moron. How do you do? Custom-painted portraits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wRAR Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Soo, what conversation are you on about? I don't recall thereatening anyone's wolf xD Like wRAR mentioned, it's in the shipwright quest, down the alley way near queens berth. The thug threatens you with sicking his wolf on your party. They were significantly higher level than me when I met them so I "bluffed" with a threat to make boots out of his wolf if he tried it. Eder about had a stroke and went from +2 to neutral in one dialogue option lol. Tosser I really wanted to like him, I really truly tried.... but alas bigoted self centered idiocy eventually overcame my watcher's ability to ignore the insult to his friends and personal safety. Oh, I just always do what Serafen says xD Which is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlonniel Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Huh. I've never had Serafen offer a solution. Possibly because I don't get far enough into the dialogue tree before shouting "Paladins rule, robbers drool!" and attacking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Oh, I just always do what Serafen says xD Which is? Persuade Zamar to take the Principi deal and work on their ships alone. Edited June 14, 2018 by Celan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wRAR Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Um, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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