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Hello everyone! I would like to share my thoughts and to read other opinions on several topics: 1) Player AI scripting system. For some reason people like to simplify everything, including AI settings, but that's not always good. Hopefully PoE 2 has passed 2kk USD and we have a chance to get masterpiece AI. It's so intriguing what kind of player AI scripting will we get in PoE 2, cause I don't like PoE 1 AI script system at all, but it's still better than no AI. For me the best, fascinating and almost ideal AI scheme is implemented in - Dragon Age: Origins. It's so awesome when you can customize any skill usage upon any situation (target evaluation, hp %, etc.) Also, besides player AI scripting it's very important, it would be great if there will be no things like kiting or spreading up the mob group like in PoE 1 2) I would really appreciate some kind of interaction with other players co-op (like in Baldur's Gate / Neverwinter) or specific arena mode or something like that for PvP (like in Dungeon and Dragons Online) 3) I've had some blurry answers from Josh Sawyer via twitch / youtube about character transaction from first part to second, but many things are still unclear. Like what's up with char. reputations and talents like Gift from the machine, The merciless hand / Second Skin, blood pool sacrifice bonuses. As I understand PoE 2 will be in Deadfire archipelago and all PoE 1 encounters were in Dyrwood, but where is it? Probably far far away in Eora... How choices we made in PoE 1 will affect PoE 2... cause there are so many of them!!! For me the iconic transaction was BG1 to BG2, with Drizzt Do'Urden and Elminster, a few but so awesome. Something like possessed Falanroed... for instance! And it's really interesting with blood pool sacrifice, I mean they talk a lot about Eder and Aloth... What do you think lads?
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Hey guys, Would anyone else like the ability to make discovered traps incorporate into the path finding, so that your characters can't accidentally set off traps they've already been discovered? (Or make this a setting we could turn on at least?) This seems like it shouldn't be too hard to implement, and it would be quite helpful imo.
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Hi Guys, Wasn't this feature already in the original Pillars of Eternity ? If not, it was in Tyranny right ? Where you could tell any of your 3 companions (Verse, Lantry, KIS, for ex.), how to react in combat in certain circumstances. (Like : Protect, Full Aggro, etc) If not... what is this Player AI Scripting for Companions ? What does it bring to Obsidian for Pillars II ? Thank you
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I got my hands on the White March 1 & 2 at last (very good expansions, btw, especially the 2nd) and playing the game again after so long, something occured to me that I didn't notice (or didn't care for some reason?) at the first time: humanoid opponents behave like midless beasts when it comes to initiate combat. What I mean: I was walking around some military encampment, trying to find a way to slip in and a lonesome guard notices me an my party of 6 high level, heavily armed adventurers. What does th he do? Charges at us in melee and, naturally, dies in seconds. And I though "what an idiotic behavior!". I mean, shouldn't he run for assistance, trying to alarm the other guards that a group of dangerous looking strangers sneaking around? Of course he should. But the game treats all opponents as "monsters". As soon as green meets red, combat to the death occurs. I'd like to point this as a suggestion for the devs to consider implementing in the sequel. Humanoids should have a way to "measure" situtations. If enemy is way more powerful, maybe they should run, try calling for backup or -if there's nowere to go- have a fear debuff and a cornered buff, or somethings like that. Sorry in advance if this topic has already been discussed somewhere else.
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Description: In battle, my main character which is a level 3 Moon Godlike Chanter, refuses to automatically use summon invocations regardless of AI setting and having enough chants saved up. His AI is set to Summoner, per rest is checked even though it's probably not applicable, and attack mode is set to Defensive. I have also tested with per rest toggled off, and attack mode set to Aggressive. I have both of the level 1 summon invocations (skeletons and phantom), and I can cast them manually even though the AI has never once attempted to do so. I'm running 3.03 version of the game through Steam, both White March DLCs and the pre-order pig. No mods or tweaks. Fresh first-time install. I haven't yet tested to see if the AI settings are broken for other classes/abilities/spells, as I am new to the game (despite pre-ordering). But I have read similar reports about non Chanter classes and the AI not using some spells/abilities like it should, so I assume this might be more than just a Chanter problem? Either way, all the forced microing is weighing on me, and the AI is not doing what the text in the AI window says it should be doing. Steps to Reproduce the Issue: Enter any battle, let the AI control the character, and let the character save up 3 chants. It will never use an invocation/summon on it's own. I've included my savegame, and there is an enemy just north of my party, through a door. Go in there with my main character and let the AI fight the Shadow solo. Important Files: Savegames Included in Savegame.zip System Specs Screenshots Included in Savegame.zip Edit: Oops, guess you probably know about this bug already. After posting this, found that old 2.0 post about PC Chanters AI not being able to use summons, but other characters can. Guessing this is that bug, or something similar. Fingers crossed this gets noticed and fixed. Savegame.zip
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I haven't played this game since release, got to the giant Dragon at the end/optional boss and stopped playing. Lost my save and playing it again on PotD and was curious what you guys would recommend as the best AI Tank. Right now I'm playing as a Cipher, my Main Tank is a Paladin AI I made through the Inn Paladin Tank http://imgur.com/S8ZAs9r and as a side mention, this is what my Cipher looks like http://imgur.com/ihCcxMF All of the recommendations for classes on this part of the forums are for player characters and the majority of research I've done for the game is all outdated and most being pre-2.0 let alone 3.0. I've never played on PotD before but going from the Sticky on the Reddit for Pillars of Eternity and here as well it's mentioned that I shouldn't wear any armor and just clothing, BUT, if I don't, right now at the start of the game all of my Tanks die instantly. So I have no idea what to do. I'd like to use the companions from the game itself but you can customize their stats so I'm left with a limited choice at the beginning, I have the Wizard and Fighter with blonde hair.
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3.01 Pet AI not working
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Ranger Pet AI seems to be completely non-functional. I don't play a ranger, but Sagani's fox Itumaak stands inert until I command him. If his target drops, he does nothing until commanded to again. Reseting the AI to passive and back to Aggressive does not work, kicking Sagani out of the party and re-inviting her does not work. -
Hello all, Dropped into the game for a bit to check an old bug report, and I noticed the party AI had been implemented. Cool stuff. I especially like the fact that autoattack settings and class behavior are two separate settings. That said - why not go further? One of the fighter's scripts (for example) says something along the lines of "will use knock down always, will use X ability if surrounded by more than 2 enemies, and will use Y ability if below 50% endurance". This is really cool. But if those disparate pieces are there... why not offer the player the option to set their own, completely customizable AI scripts? For an example of this, see the original Dragon Age or Final Fantasy XII. Both allowed the player to basically write their own scripts, using a hierarchical stack of commands that each have various conditions. That wouldn't be for everyone - and the AI in place now is much better than nothing at all. But it would be quite nice if we could create our own AI scripts as well - perhaps as an "advanced" option in the party AI menu? Pictorial example of what I'm talking about: http://shadeheart.com/images/morpheusDragonAge01Full.jpg
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So several months ago when I got PoE I got some great advice from players on making a character. I ended up giving up on the cipher simply due to the cheese factor of the class. It's not a bad class and I enjoy the "swordmage/arcane archer" archetype but it felt overpowered (I understand they've been nerfed now and have had their power level adjusted). After trying out the chanter and rogue I finally settled on the barbarian and had some fun. Made it the keep then got about 10 levels deep into the dungeon beneath the keep before I stopped playing and moved on to other games (re: my summer got busy). My biggest complain about PoE was how my party felt like it was slowing me down and combat became an endless slog of micromanagement. While it brings back fond memories of the old infinity engine games, I've become spoiled by the modern gaming advancements where I can set companion spells/powers and behavior and basically forget about them until boss battles came around. One of the purported changes in 2.0 is improved companion AI and I'm curious if it holds up. So does the new companion AI work? Or at least well enough for the casual player just playing on Normal? I'd like to play and not have to micromanage Aloth every 2 seconds because he either isn't fighting or being useful (or more importantly not dying every encounter because of the old trope that Wizards have to suck until endgame where they become overpowered). Tied into that question; I'm seeing a lot of complaints now on the interwebs about monsters ignoring engagement due to their improved AI. Is the companion AI smart enough to counter this? Or will I just end up micromanaging Eder (or any other tank) constantly?
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Game Version: 2.00.0706 Description and Steps to Reproduce There is no character AI icon showing in the action bars. The character AI button on the character screen is clickable but does nothing. This is true for all characters and saved games. When I try to quit the game, I get the confirmation dialogue box, but the game does not quit. It will quit if I zone out of the area and back in, then select Quit again. This is true for all characters and saved games. When I try to create a new game, the screen is solid black after character creation. Otherwise, the game appeared to be functioning normally (sound played, characters were selectable if you could find them, etc.) Game could be exited only by rebooting the computer. No save file was created. This problem occurs on all new character creation attempts. System Information MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB Savegame file: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11113574/PoE%20Files/8f32fb256ff142169e4df64f14e3cf55%208193265%20GildedVale.savegame Log file: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11113574/PoE%20Files/Player.log
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i have to say i for one am very pleased. i was a bit surprised at first at all the disengagements by the enemy, but i think it only makes sense for my opponents to go after the squishy big hitters. after all that's what i am doing, too pallegina (specced as a kind of off-tank/support/dd) seems to do decent en passant strikes and now i am glad i took her along instead of aloth. before she was kind of redundant in my setup. edér is still pretty great: one time i accidentally pulled another group and i would have wiped if it weren't for him. he finished off the last 4 mobs alone with the help of the sanguine plate i needed to kite a little bit with GM, which i didn't mind. i've only done the first crägholdt map so far but i already learned to keep her way back at the start of fights. she probably will switch from robes to padded armor in the future. i am playing on hard btw. but yeah, from my first experience combat seems a lot tougher, more punishing and more positionally dynamic. it's going to take quite a bit longer to get through the game now. what do you think about it? i haven't experimented with the new party AI at all. what are your experiences with it so far?
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[2.0] Flames of Devotion Locked by Sneaking Paladin AI
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I've been running a Bleak Walker with the new AI packages activated within my party. I recently noticed that when the Paladin's AI (as applied to abilities, not auto-attack) is set to "Aggressive" and the paladin is sneaking, launching a first attack on an enemy automatically applies Flames Of Devotion to the attack, but not in the way it's supposed to. When you set the paladin to attack in a normal fashion from concealment, the blue flame effect of Flames of Devotion activates on the character immediately (which is unusual, since it appears normally only when the blow is struck) and the ability is locked because it is "already activated". Sometimes the ability applies as it should, sometimes it doesn't, but in all cases the Flames of Devotion ability doesn't unlock until a save is loaded. When a character attacking in the prescribed way is sidetracked by obstacles or by the AI choosing to attack a closer or engaged enemy, the ability is likewise locked down. This doesn't seem to be an issue when entering in combat from out of concealment, and I can't replicate the problem from concealment when combat has already started. It seems to be an AI beginning-of-combat problem specifically with regard to stealth. I've attached a screenshot showing the toolbar with ability locked after my character had attacked from concealment, had Flames of Devotion activate and then been prevented from reaching the target due to engagement by other enemies. Note that the FoD icon does not have a green border - it is not currently queued as an action but is flagged as "already activated" anyway. -
There's 2 issues with the current AI of enemies. The first issue is that if you attack a pack of enemies and run, some of the enemies will split up. The core of the group might stay behind while stranglers might follow. The second issue is if the enemy is slightly slower than the character aggroing them, they will disengage. When they disengage they start to walk back to their original position in slow speed. IF the player re-engages them at this moment, they will turn once again on the player and try to attack them. The engagement can either be an attack, or merely walking up to the enemy that is disengaging/going back to its original position. As you can see this two things combined result in a easily abusable AI, I don't condone this of course but if it's in the game in its present state it's a valid tactic albeit a cheap one. I purpose a simple solution, just make it so that the whole pack of enemies moves towards the character that pulled them. At the same time don't have them disengage. Kiting would still be a valid tactic, but the execution would be harder. Open space would be an asset, currently you need less than 1/4 of a screen to make kiting work. It's also noteworthy to say that you can do this as a solo character, it might not work versus all enemies such as wolves/boars/lions because they are fast but it works versus the majority of creatures one encounters in the game. Once you add additional characters to this kiting "tactic" it gets even more abusable. Chanters can get free invocations up, while you run around and enemies don't engage properly. You can shoot with say 2 party members while one just runs back and forth near an enemy, etc. I'll provide a video later if needed to showcase this issue.
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The characters in my team pick a hostile and auto-attack it when their original target dies or whatever. It would be nice if the list of hostiles to pick a target from did not include my charmed/confused companions. I would rather the AI controlled companion stayed idle if the only targets it could pick were temporarily hostile friendlies (or neutrals ?) I don't mind the micro-managing but preventing this is an added hassle,.. beside it is immersion breaking when the enemies are dead and 5 of the team pile one the poor companion who is temporarily hostile.
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Hello, AI stopped working, happens on Searing Falls. I have a feeling it happened while fighting the boss in the cave, I didn't realised it at first but I stopped taking damage during this fight. I thought it was odd considering the enemy. My companions are only NPC (Durance, Aloth, Eder, Kana, Sagani). Casted all available spell and also used summons (3 drakes, spider and the one from the horn). After that, the AI stopped attacking me (any fight, any map). E.g. I cleaned Pearlwood buff without taking any damage. I don't have a save from the earlier fight in the cave so I can't go back again but luckily I saved before clearing Pearlwood buff (when I realised it was bugged) so I will restart from there. Anyone getting this bug, reloading from backup save didn't fix it either, restarting the game however fixed the issue.
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Good game, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape style... Love it! However, for me, the thing missing is party AI... Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2, had it (and I'm sure the others had too), and it was even moddable... And, to say the truth, I loved it cause I could take the AI and make it my own... like I wanted it to be... (DA: Origins had a ok one, but not as moddable!). Now, there's not even an AI... And it's bad in my opinion... It's like playing a D&D game and controlling all six characters at the same time... uurrgg... Never tried it, and I hope I never will! (and even with the pause, I find it bad)... I mean, yeah, control one character at a time, great! Give your comrades orders (like in D&D when you tell your friends to go here or there, and attack left or right) sure, it's great! But, not each and every move... Of couse, bugs are bad and all, but I find that having no AI for party member is atrocious... I mean, hey, image a fight against 6 foes, a boss and 5 henchmen... And the 5 henchmen had no AI... atrocious, no? And, people that don't want them? Just don't use the AI (Baldur's Gate style!). Win win! Support your gamers... P.S. Hey, here's something! Reply or give a sign or whatever if you'd like "at least" an AI... I know, it's not a petition or anything but, it might help, who knows? For me, it would really keep the game alive! (Baldur's Gate is still my reference here!).
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Devs-- Thanks for making this game. It brings back the texture and feeling of the games I loved so much, like BG2. However, it seems that you missed the opportunity to incorporate some of the best elements of games over the past 8-10 years, most notably advanced/highly customizable AI for the characters. While some players want to micromanage each NPC within each battle, many others do not wish to do so. As it stands, combat becomes laborious. Even (due perhaps to the work of modders) BG2 had highly customized AI options. PoA has none? Please consider a patch to remedy this. This is PoA's only failing. Thanks, Daniel
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Hey, everyone. I just wanted to let you know that your Pillars of Eternity team is hard at work fixing up the game based on the bugs you have been reporting. I can't give you an exact date, but we would really like to release the patch next week, if possible. We have been focusing on save/load, pathfinding, AI, and class fixes. When we get the exacts nailed down we will let you guys know. Thanks for all of the hard work you guys have put into helping us with the beta. The extra eyes are invaluable!
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Hi, i am working in this project and it would be great to see the AI of Pillars of Ethernity enhanced, and some gameplay aspects or NPCs automatizable/trainable using the Singularity descentralized free IA project: http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/882/congratulations-humanity-you-have-reached-singularity#latest I hope you like my Ethereum project.
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These are some brainstormed ideas in reply to another thread, I understand that Eternity is well underway production. See this more as inspiration for future IP's or future Eternity's. I touch a lot of subjects in a single thread here, the idea is consistent and as a whole simply different puzzle pieces to a larger picture. I call it Diamondman Mode (previously known as "HellMetal Mode" or "Strongman Mode", and reluctantly "Old-Meets-New Mode"), which I find appropriate. This is an idea to get the game as difficult, but manageable, as possible. Rogue-like-ish, and in my opinion an interesting system~formula. - Permadeath (With limited ressurrection in-game side-stories, choices or whatnot, until "Ressurrection Spell" mod or "Temple Mod" etc. etc.) - Diamondman Save System. Start Game. Play Game. Can't Save. Save & Quit. Load Save, Save gets Deleted. Play Game. Save & Quit. Etc. etc. Choice: Use Ironman Save System instead if the game is known to crash on your hardware. - Difficult Economy - Difficult-est AI that act in teamwork and AI micro-manage. -- Stand-outs. Your Fighter stands just waiting for the other AI Fighter is waiting for you to make a move, meanwhile the AI Archers or similar move out. Difficult enough for the Player to hit space, scratch their hopeful and potential beard and practically play a Chess turn. Make a move, and the AI reacts. Turn-Based Reactivity but Realtime with Pause. -- Stand-out Example: So I face a group of 3: --- Enemy has 1 Fighter, 1 Ranger, 1 Priest, All Level 5 --- I have 1 Fighter, 1 Rogue, All Level 8 1. Pause. 2. Move Fighter forward. Stealth Rogue. 3. Unpause. 4. Fighter moves forward, Enemy Fighter backs. 5. Ranger moves to the side, in reaction. 6. Priest stays behind Fighter. 7. Pause. Instead, had I chosen to simply stay the initial position, the Enemy Fighter would have (in this case) stood his ground and not advanced until feasible. Chances are that they would advance instantly, as they would only see 1 Fighter (Rogue Stealthed), 3 vs 1. But because you Stealthed when combat was engaged, the AI would know that the Rogue is there (they just wouldn't be able to see it). So the AI Fighter would still stand his ground, and the Ranger might even stick closer to the Fighter. - Everything above about "Stand-Outs": AI Reactivity to the situation, from their perspective. Tactical Statistic Management (Health, Stamina, [Food & Water?]) - Resting limited to once every 16th in-game hour, Sleep less and your Stamina suffers ([stamina Sickness]) -- 1. Wilderness Resting (World Map). Worst Stamina Gain. No Resting Bonus+Potential Random Encounters -- 2. Camp Resting (Locations). Camp Bonus. Costs resources to light a fire. -- 3. Inn Resting (Towns). Inn Bonus. -- 4. Stronghold Resting (Stronghold). Best Stamina Gain. Stronghold Bonus. - Limited Carrying Capacity - Weight Modifying Stats - Time Passes on your Characters (Aging) and can eventually die of old age (Again, Main Character Dies, game goes on. Adventurer's Hall Companions 100% in attempts to beat the game). - Adventurer's Hall Companions cost money, a lot of it. Leaves if not economically maintained. - Option to turn Adventurer's Hall "Off" entirely. Closed for Business. - No Descriptions. Spells or Abilities have no description, the Player would have to do the Spell/Ability, observe it/the effects and then explain it. - No Map/Minimap equivalent (Draw your own in "Paint" software or with physical Pen & Paper) - No "Updated My Journal". Write everything yourself using an In-Game Journal/Notepad. Write down what NPC's talk about, Quests, objects and observations. Whatever. A game diary/experience. Stamina Example: -- Stamina is 100%, as you fights and wander and time passes, you gradually get lower (say, 80%). -- At 80% you are still at full capacity and gains all "bonuses" from Resting. -- At 60% you choose to drink a glass of water or, heck, eat something. Stamina raises to 70%. -- After a while, you hit 25% or less, and you start to see some minor penalties (Been awake too long? Fought too many battles and made bad moves? Remember: If you lose 75% after Resting in an 1 in-game hour, you wouldn't be able to Rest again) -- At 0% in battle, you would obviously pass out and make a better target [Fainted] -- After battle, gain 10% Stamina to survive with for a while. -- "Waiting" or "Meditating" or maybe even "Gathering Energy" could place one of your characters inactive during combat to tick some extra +1% Stamina Points. Let's call it [short Rest]. Basically the character taking a breather. Again, maybe drinks some water. Life Points instead of Health Points: -- Starting with 10/10. -- As you level up, you gain more (13/13 for instance). If you'd lose 1 LP, down at 9/10, gain a level, you'd be at 12/13. -- Life Points can not be healed. A One-Time-Choice Quest perhaps, "Do I want to Heal all LP or do I want to ressurect a fallen companion?" kind of thing. -- A Life Point is something you can lose in a simple mistake in battle. -- A Life Point would also be lost due to [Aging] -- A game could be played without losing a single Life Point if playing through the game fast enough, but it'd be a challenge to do so for sure. ... and a side-dish option - Game does not end when Main Character dies (Only when the full party dies. In a way, like X-COM missions, you can lose 3 guys but still win with 1 guy. I envision a game (not necessarily PE, but maybe inspiration~). The same goes for Icewind Dale, if one of your characters dies (and you are playing without ressurect) you can still beat the game. Why? Because I believe my [Diamondman] concept is so difficult that your main character could and 70%-80% chance of going down (unless playing really slow, resourceful and thoughtful). And World Map Traveling: - Costs Stamina - Realms of Arcania/Fallout/Ultima+Baldur's Gate Traveling System. -- Be a small (scaled to size of the world, or Fallout Incognito wise) "Ultima"-esque figure/icon on a large beautiful canvas. -- Get a horse, add an appropriate icon. Travels faster, in case there are "Events" in the world that you can intercept. -- Xenonauts Radar Concept, but mobile as the party moves. See a Caravan Icon nearby? Intercept or ignore it, potentially even see some Bandit Icons take over the Caravan. Gives the Player Choice "Do I want to engage in this Random Event now or do I want to observe what happens?". -- Can Rest in the Wilds (or "Wait") - Adventure Game Obstacles: "You need the Monocle of Mirrors to open the 'Gate'" And of course, the most important aspect: - Random Hellfire and Reign of Chaos meteors with demons. TL;DR: Braaaaiiinsssstorm
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So I was just thinking about this, what abilities are there that can serve the same purpose without having an animation for it? In Update 15 Tim Cain says that "grapple" won't be in the game because it is unnecessary resources. Is there a middle-ground here? I wouldn't, personally, mind if there is a grapple ability (for the Monk) in the game. Even if it is without animation. I draw most of my thoughts from League of Legends regarding this, where you press a button when you're close enough to an enemy and there's a "clanky" sound and then "Stun" (if you are within range of your opponent). Could grapple be an ability without animation? Sample Example 1: I move my monk up close to the target enemy, use the "Grapple" ability and both my enemy and my monk are now "Stunned" or "Static". My own imagination fills in the blanks where the animation is lacking. Perhaps there could be a SoT (Stamina over Time) loss to both my Monk and the opponent (Dependent on Strength). The one with the highest Strength throws saving throws to be able to leave the grapple, for instance, the opponent has a higher Strength and thus can leave the grapple whenever he/she feels like it. The AI could react to distance, and amount of characters in an invisible AoE ring around it. So if I send a character to aid my Monk in this power struggle the AI could react and leave it, but if I stay away the AI continues to power struggle, because he/she is stronger than my Monk. [EDIT]: Sample Example 2: My Wizard being able to throw an AoE Dome Spell, I could trap 3-4 enemies in this Dome with my Fighter, so that the enemies don't go away and focus something else, or perhaps trap them together with an angry Barbarian. Or better yet, trap them whilst I take out something else. This wouldn't need to be animated either but simple cause any enemy hit by this spell to not be able to leave the affected AoE area. Perhaps a glimmer of light around the selected area.[/EDIT] Are there any other abilities that could be difficult or time consuming to animate that could follow a similar type of simplicity? Ultima 1 (which I recently finished) is a very very simplified example (with hardly any abilities at all, I didn't buy any spells or try them I just wanted to finish the game as fast as possible so I could have it under my belt, i.e. I followed a walkthrough about 1/2 of the game). Are there any tl;dr folk left in the forums by the way? TL;DR: AI thoughts, but really wondering if some animations for some abilities could be simplified. E.g., do you want to see an ability in P:E but you think it would be too resource heavy? Perhaps it could be simplified? How vivid does spell shields need to be?
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Doing party AI right.
Odarbi posted a topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
One of my major loves about the Baldurs Gate and Icewind Dale games was having different AI scripts available to customize how each character was controlled by the computer, but also with how those scripts would suspend for a period or adapt if the player told that character to do something. Many of the newer games, such as Neverwinter Nights and Neverwinter Nights 2, did not seem have that same level of AI. I won't lie. I'm not super huge on having to micromanage or give orders to my party members every round in combat, but I do like being able to tell my party members to do something from time to time, and have them do it before going back to to their AI. I want to be able to have my party prioritize a target until that target is dead. I found a lot of the time in Neverwinter Nights 2 that the AI would be trying to change targets every 2 or 3 rounds, despite me actually telling them to attack someone. I guess my point here is: Please make sure to do party AI right. Have AI in the game to take over when the player isn't directly telling the party what to do, but allow player commands to trump out AI commands. Whether AI is done using a script system such as what was used in Baldurs Gate in the past, with a user defined priority system where they can use dropdown boxes to set up something like "When <ally HP> is <below> <50%>, use <skill>", or some entirely new system to determine how the AI should react in a given situation, frustrating Party AI can definitely ruin a game for someone like me. Please take the time to do party AI correctly.- 17 replies
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