[Can't use any of my saves with White March]

So am I. Since I tried to update to the expansion using GoG Galaxy, all my save files are gone. Though judging from my backup (which also has no save files in it) it was before then that they were deleted. Perhaps since I added PoE to GoG Galaxy in the first place.

[Your PoE Pros and Cons: 5 and 5]

 

See what other person said about M&B.

Shogun II and Crusader Kings II are both grand strategy and RPGs.

The reason that Kickstarter I showed is on Kickstarter is that they needed to prove to an external investor that there was an interest in the market, and they did more than prove that. They raised over a million dollars, if that isn't good enough, I don't know what is.

RPG elements don't make game RPG, even if dozens of reviewers say that Bioshock is a RPG.

 

M&B don't set any historical time period and it don't have any historical faction or societies, it only has fewer fantastical elements than most fantasy RPGs. It weapons, armors, etc. things are quite accurate representations of historical weapons, armors, etc. things. But even in them there are mixed different time periods. M&B is in my opinion good game but I don't see how it is any more historically accurate than any other fantasy RPG, it only uses more simulate system than what most RPGs, but such don't in my opinion make game more accurate it only changes how game is played. M&B did sold enough to make profit, but it also was much lower budget game than what you typical top selling games are. And it got sequel only because of Paradox was it publisher, because Paradox view of gaming business is to make games they like.

 

Million pounds are nice sum (but small compared to budgets of tens of millions that your typical top seller games from AAA publishers have), but 35k backers is quite small, as it will mean with optimistic prediction that game will sell from 300k-700k copies if it gets decent reviews (this prediction is from Paradox CEO about his expectations for PoE ), which isn't much on these days standards where multi million selling games can be considered selling poorly. It is like movies from Finnish studios that get 300k watcher in whole time they are theaters, are considered to be success, but Hollywood movies that get 10 million viewers in their opening weekend are often considered as flops.

 

So there is market for smaller budget stuff (which PoE is excellent example), but that don't mean that most of those smaller budget products will be top sellers, but of course they don't need to be as they had much lower budget than those your typical top seller products.

 

What constitutes an RPG is contentious at best, I'd call Shogun and Crusader Kings II RPGs, and Steam certainly says Crusader Kings II is.

 

Though we may argue what exactly what selling 'worth a damn' means, I think I made my point. They exist, and they sell.

[Your PoE Pros and Cons: 5 and 5]

 

 

 

Also, also. RPGs with historical accuracy can and do sell woth a damn, just saying.

Name one.

 

Mount & Blade series to a varying degree. Maybe not in the map and power elements, but in time period weapon/armour design, combat elements architecture etc. it seems fairly accurate.

Shogun II is apparently similarly accurate.

Crusader Kings II apparently is even more historically accurate.

 

I'm sure I could go looking for more, but I have to go to bed, so I'll just leave you with this Kickstarter that I backed: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance

That got over 3x its funding goal.

 

 

Mount & Blade isn't historically accurate and it wasn't well received and it sale figures were at best mediocre.

Shogun II and Crusader Kings II are both grand strategy games not RPGs.

 

Most historically accurate RPG that I know is Darklands that is placed in late middle ages of Germany, but it has fantastic elements and it don't portray workings of society that accurately.

 

And generally games that seek funding from Kickstarter do so because there isn't enough market for them so that publishers would be interested on them. 

 

See what other person said about M&B.

Shogun II and Crusader Kings II are both grand strategy and RPGs.

The reason that Kickstarter I showed is on Kickstarter is that they needed to prove to an external investor that there was an interest in the market, and they did more than prove that. They raised over a million dollars, if that isn't good enough, I don't know what is.

[Your PoE Pros and Cons: 5 and 5]

 

Also, also. RPGs with historical accuracy can and do sell woth a damn, just saying.

Name one.

 

Mount & Blade series to a varying degree. Maybe not in the map and power elements, but in time period weapon/armour design, combat elements architecture etc. it seems fairly accurate.

Shogun II is apparently similarly accurate.

Crusader Kings II apparently is even more historically accurate.

 

I'm sure I could go looking for more, but I have to go to bed, so I'll just leave you with this Kickstarter that I backed: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance

That got over 3x its funding goal.

[Your PoE Pros and Cons: 5 and 5]

 

I'm not advocating stat penalties for female PCs, class limitations, ability limitations or what have you. Rather I'm advocating that the setting itself depict the primitive reactionary values inherent to feudalism and its consequences on the population. That does not mean the female PC is silenced or necessarily 'limited' mind you, rather they'd have a different experience where they are far more likely to discriminated by virtue of their sex but still obviously be able to fight against that.

 

The problem I have with most fantasy setting is that they will either ignore the suffering women felt under feudalism and simply sweep the inherent misogyny of such a system under the rug or they will show feudal societies as sexist but essentially silence the female sex under the guise of "well they didn't have a voice then".

 

What I advocate is showing the misogyny of feudal society all the while exploring its actual impact on females by still showing their agency under the oppressive system.

RPGs with 100% historical accuracy don't sell worth a damn. So you'll never see a company like Obsidian making one. Besides, can you imagine how *dull* such a game would be?

 

 

That is so very irrelevant. He's arguing for something which would, if anything, increase the intrigue in the game.

 

As for the other point being made, I would like to hear an actual woman's opinion on whether having the sexist environment in PoE that Barothmuk described would make them feel uncomfortable or not. Somehow I doubt it would. If it would make some women uncomfortable, should there not be racism in the game then too? It might make real minorities feel uncomfortable.

 

Also, also. RPGs with historical accuracy can and do sell woth a damn, just saying.