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  1. As the title explains. After having created a custom wizard I am unable to select any learned 1st level spells for use. If I give the wizard another grimoire then they can select 1st level spells for that. Apparently there is a bug with custom adventurer grimoires that does not allow anyone, even other wizard, to select any 1st level spells. 

     

    Basicly my custom wizard can learn any spells, but cannot select 1st level known spells for use with the grimoire that came with said character. 

  2. Yep. No matter what the budget of your game, even if the budget is over a hundred million, having lots of VO has always meant having less dialogue, having dialogue that is less editable (and thus plot / writing of a lower quality). 

     

    Agreed. It also makes it harder for modders to put in new dialogue, well I write harder but I really mean that when people are used to every line being voiced then it becomes rather noticeable when new lines aren't. Not really noticeable in games like this i.e. IE style games.

    And it's a very good point that you can't really edit dialogue once it's in, if it's voiced. At least not as easily.  

     

    In regards to the OP: Aye, it's baffling that they didn't make more use of this proven concept. It gave the game more of a PnP feel. Perhaps they were worried about "less is more"?

  3. Hyperbole is stupid, which is why I said it was.

     

    Feargus actually had to publicly state TWICE why Obsidian changed the poem. So basically, at this point, you're arguing against the point that Obsidian should not be anti-hate speech. Literally, no matter how you cut it, Feargus said Obsidian is anti-hate, so what exactly do you think you are arguing against here other than that ideaology? That it wasn't hate speech? That's irrelevant, because they obviously thought it was. 

    It is and I don't see why you brought it up here. I still haven't resorted to that kind of slippery slope argument. Only worry that I've shared is that this might set a precedent and affect future content to a greater or lesser degree. Almost pure speculation, of course. 

     

    Of course they are anti-hate, as they should be. However, the poem had nothing to do with spreading/encouraging hate. Him bringing that up makes me think that he's basicly inferring that Firedorn was knowingly/unknowingly trying to spread hate about groups that have and still suffer from forms of oppression/discrimination. The poem quite clearly had nothing to do with transgender, or anything of the sorts, and was targeting bigots themselves. That last part wasn't as clear to most, although there were some people whom caught on to that early on.

    A person claiming that it's hate speech does not make it so. Obsidian possibly giving into peer pressure and claiming that it was hate speech does not make it so. 

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    Bigot can most certainly be seen as a derogative term, especially when used against people whom simply disagree with the person calling them a bigot. 

     

    His reply to you is still correct. The bigots, as you refer to them, are not the only ones whom mainly focus on throwing insults instead of presenting proper arguments.

    So can racist, nazi, fascist etc.

     

     

    Aye. If you use them against people whom have done little to actually warrant such nouns.

    Just because someone disagrees with your [Not you as in you personally] opinion doesn't give you leave to start using ad hominems. 

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  5. If that's the kind of argument you want to present... Okay, so why was the joke a big deal then? Why was a person being offended by it? Since that kind of oppression is nothing compared to what we've seen in other parts of history... People have been killed because of their beliefs, ancestry and how they were born. The original complainer didn't face anything even remotely close to this level of oppression. So by your logic it shouldn't matter, since it doesn't matter. One should never resort to fallacy of relative privation.

     

    Why are we discussing anything regarding the game? Why is there even a forum for anything but reporting technical issues? Since anything else wouldn't be important when compared to the horrors that have been inflicted upon man throughout the ages, the injustices we see around the world etc.

     

    Do you truly not understand how silly this kind of deflection is? You shouldn't debate this because there are more important issues to debate? Aye there are more "important" subjects to discuss and you're more than welcome to go to other forums and debate them there. Anything that has to do with Obsidian and Pillars of Eternity should be open to debate and this forum is the place to have such debates. 

     

    The fact that some people feel so friggin' strongly about something that was already resolved peacefully and with consent from both parties as to make posts about it trying to villify others or distort reality so that their views don't collide is stupid. It's plain stupid. To act like Obsidian somehow gave up their morals because of a few lines of trivial, inconsequential text is stupid. To put that at the level of censorship of art and denying free speech is stupid. To imply that the next step is a dystopian society or even oppression of social groups is stupid. 

     

    You know what's also stupid? Hyperbolizing

     

    If your line in the sand is a user-made poem that Obsidian themselves wanted changed and was changed by the original backer... if that's your line in the sand... then you'll have a real hard time when actual socio-political elements rear their heads in situations other than a video game.

     

    Ah, the good old "If this is the hill you want to die on" nonsense. This is not the last stand, this is just another example of the power of Twitter based social outrage possibly affecting a change that does nothing but damage the cause it was set out to help. I am perfectly able to discern video games from reality, something which apparently the original complainer has problems with.

    This is also just me debating whether or not we should believe Obsidian's statements regarding this. Being sceptical isn't a bad thing. Discussing issues such as this shouldn't be discouraged simply because they don't deal with more far reaching issues. 

    Obsidian didn't invite this particular social debate/outrage, but it found them anyway. As such I think it's completely fine to debate it. 

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     ... but the bigots are demonstrably more interested in hurling insults. ...

     

     

     

    Pot, meet Kettle.

     

    If the shoe fits.

    http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/75387-controversial-limerick-discussion-2/

    Go read that thread. Several of the posters explicitly express their bigotry.

    Then consider that the main argument is about free speech, which is patently absurd as I have already explained.

     

     

    You missed/ignored his point. Both sides do so love throwing insults at each other in attempt to dismiss the opposing viewpoint. Don't even try to argue that only one side has resorted to ad hominems.

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  7. You know, there's really no point in debating whether or not he is right or wrong in your personal opinion. It's his game. He can do what he wants, and you don't have to agree with it just because it is Obsidian Entertainment. You don't need to justify why someone you like doesn't think like you. You don't need to agree with him in order to like his product.

     

    You know, there is every reason to debate whether or not I think he's telling the actual truth or not. Mainly because I think debates should almost always be welcomed. 

    Aye I have no control over his descision making, nor would I want to. I however fail to see what your point is, but you're right in one respect. I won't take his word for it simply because he is the CEO, same as I didn't take Obsidian's official statement at face value.  

     

    The rest of your post* doesn't make much sense to me, as in I don't really understand what you're referring to. Who's the "you" in your statement?

     

    *You don't need to justify why someone you like doesn't think like you. You don't need to agree with him in order to like his product.

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    "It was something we, not anybody, had read"

     

    I call bull**** on that. Someone obviously read it as someone obviously wrote it into the game.

     

    Ctrl-C.

     

    Ctrl-V.

     

    500-odd times.

     

    And you think it's hard to believe that somebody missed one?

     

     

    Firstly I do find it harder to believe that just one made it through. It seems to be a rather convenient truth, given the situation. 

    Secondly someone still read it, although it is certainly possible that the person [some poor intern?] just mindlessly copied the text from the backers into the game. 

     

    If Firedorn's poem wasn't vetted then I think it would be far more reasonable to assume that others also weren't vetted, given that they could just have been copying them into the game after a while without paying much attention to the content. The other memorials simply haven't given rise to any complaints, beyond them being... Not very lore friendly. 

  9. "It was something we, not anybody, had read"

     

    I call bull**** on that. Someone obviously read it as someone obviously wrote it into the game.

     

    "We can tal about hate, and we can explore hate, but that we don't promote hate is the key thing in the end"

     

    Aye, indeed. But what does that have to do with the poem? Was he insinuating that Firedorn's poem was promoting hatred towards a group of people? Well, I guess it did promote hatred towards silly bigots whom think running off a cliff is a rational way of handling an akward situation. 

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  10. I would go with "Let people create dedicated threads, but stop them from derailing other threads". 

     

    I couls state the most obvious solution to your dilemma: if you're getting down because of this still being discussed on the forum then perhaps you should practice some self-restraint and ignore such posts/threads. But that can be rather hard to do when people start posting off-topic nonsense in other threads. 

    Want to go to Reddit instead? Go right ahead, but be forwarned... Reddit communities tend to be rather effective at burying ideas that they do not like. So you might not be able to get as many different views on a given subject or even seen as much critiscm as you would on a forum. 

  11. ^ Just untick the automatic updates on steam. 

     

    That's what I'm going to do anyway. 

     

    You can't anymore, afaik. 

     

    Thanks for all the effort you put into the IE mod, Sensuki. Can't say I'm surprised about your choice, for what it's worth, as my enthusiasm has also decreased immensely as a direct result of the design choices and the sheer amount of bugs. 

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