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Thanks for the workaround! Why is the game statically linking SDL in the binary??
It's not the game itself, it's the Unity player. The game code actually tries to dynamically load libsdl2 (what afaik is the only option to use native libraries in C#), what fails if the libsdl version it tries to load differs from the one Unity is statically linked against.
Still, I'd also like to know the reasoning behind Unity being linked statically. The libsdl2 ABI is supposed not to change, so there should be no reason to ever statically link against it...
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There's also another workaround: Instead of using LD_PRELOAD to force loading the libsdl2 version that's bundled along with the game, one can use a nifty feature of libsdl2, which gets explained here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RyanGordon/posts/TB8UfnDYu4U
Basically this feature allow to use the system installed libsdl2 version even if an application is statically linked against libsdl2 (the Unity player is statically linked against it...).
So, what I am doing in order to get the game running is to set the following environment variable (of course with the correct path to your system installed libsdl2):
SDL_DYNAMIC_API=/usr/lib64/libSDL2.so
My command line on Steam now looks like this:
SDL_DYNAMIC_API=/usr/lib64/libSDL2.so LC_ALL=C %command%
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Of course you can also use the same environment variable to use Steam's libsdl2, if you prefer. Just point it to
SDL_DYNAMIC_API=~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSDL2-2.0.so.0
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I just read that Brandon Adler stated that it probably wasn't worth the effort to support Linux in Pillars of Eternity. While this definitely is bad news for the Linux gamers out there, as it means that future Obisidian titles might not be available for that platform, I'd like to focus on the positive side.
Many games are nowadays released for Linux, but it's by far not something to be taken for granted. Pillars of Eternity though has been released for it, and by that one of the (in my opinion) best games of this year has become available. This game has given, and will give, countless hours of high-quality entertainment to Linux users like me, fun that we would have missed, hadn't PoE been released for our platform.
Thanks to the developers for letting us enjoy this great piece of art!
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Also running the game on a desktop with Arch 64 bit and an AMD 6950 with open source driver. However, I experience no issues, and the game runs fine.
If I'm not mistaken the llvm r600 shader compiler (which was causing the bug) is only used by default with cards of the Southern Islands generation or newer. The Northern Islands drivers can use it, but only when one specifically asks for it during driver compilation (afair).
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I can now confirm that the crash issue seems to be resolved with the current development version of llvm (don't ask me how long it took me to get a working ebuild for that thing...).
I heard rumours of a planned release date of llvm-3.6.1, something about May 13, and about a release candidate on Star Wars day. Let's hope that the fix (whichever patch it was) ends up being part of it. It would be a pity if users of the stable version of the open source drivers would have to wait for another 5 months to get it with llvm-3.7...
For Ubuntu users Pillars of Eternity seems to work when using the drivers from ~oibaf PPA. If one is adventurous enough to use this PPA, it might serve as a workaround until fixed drivers will (hopefully) be part of Ubuntu 15.10...
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Regarding the crashes with the open source drivers: There's a bug report on freedesktop.
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Oops, I misunderstood you. The low resolution issue is fixed by the wrapper from dscharrer, but the crashes still happen.
I think I'll get mesa from git, just to see if the crashes occur there as well. Currently I'm running 10.5.1 with llvm-3.6.0.
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@dscharrer: Thank you very much! Your wrapper seems to solve the issue for me. You, sir, are a true code wizard.
@h3st: I don't think we should blame it on the driver, as clearly Unity fails to use a function that would be available. Imho, it's a Unity bug.
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Thanks, Ubichiottes.
That means we'll probably have to get the censored version then, if we want to play the game on the Xbox.
At least I can still delude myself with the irrational hope that maybe there will be a patch that undoes this defacement of art. On the other hand, since the censorship was nothing but a marketing decision, I presusume in order to make people talk about the game, this hope might not be completely in vain.
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Does anyone know if the US Xbox 360 version will run on european consoles? I know that this is generally not the case, but there are exceptions and at the moment I'm desperately hoping that South Park: The Stick of Truth is one of them.
Alternative: Does anyone know if the Windows version is running on Linux with WINE?
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You don't need to wait for the RPG of your dreams. You can just play one of the three Realms of Arkania (the second one is my favorite). In these games you have (almost) all the above and even some addictional feature, like item consumption. Once in a while, for instance, party member's boots crack, and if you don't change them ASAP your characters get sick.
PS: this high deegre of simulation looks great in the first place, but after 40 hours spent in a game becomes a pain in the ass. For a good designer survivalism should be a sub system of the game, not a mission of life...
Hey! I'm the Realms of Arkania (or Nordlandtrilogie, as it was originally called) fan here. You stole my posting
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I'd consider it strongly immersion breaking, if one could just miraculously change the appearance of items, even if it's only an interface thing. For me, everything that a character can do in a traditional RPG, also cosmetic stuff, should have a sane foundation within the game world. If, and only if such a feature could be explained story-wise I would consider it appropriate.
Still, I'm afraid that every explanation for such an option is bound to sound made up, just to make such an option possible, what would immediately break immersion. A storyteller has to be very careful not to trigger any doubts on the integrity of her tale. As soon as the listener/player starts to wonder why some part of the story is told, and comes to the conclusion, that it might have been only made up to justify something else that would otherwise not fit into the story at all, the whole story gets questionable.
From my point of view such vanity stuff belongs in MMORPGs, where story and immersion are mere negligibilities.
Nevertheless, this is just my opinion and there is one other, in my opinion really important thing that this thread makes me want to say:
Please, developers, don't listen too much to us. After all, it is your game. You invest your heartblood in this project, so it should be exactly how you want it to be. If you think something that comes up on the forum is a great idea, put it in the game. If you think something does not suit into the game, then leave it out.
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Some claim that Sarkeesian exploits the equality topic just to become famous. I don't think these rumours are true in any way, but there are enough people out there who do and who might attack a game in whichs development she is involved.
The whole point about character assination is exactly this. Create enough negativity around an individual so that they or their endeavours are discredited. If a project or group decided not pursue a project with her because of the rumours on the internet, then the harrasment achieved it's purpose.
I agree with you on this. It's very sad, but nevertheless true.
I agree that the issue is important, so if the developers want to have a focus on gender studies, I suggest them to ask a scientific institute for help, not a youtube phenomenon.
Gender relations is a sociological issue. There is no "scientific institute" that has the final word. Certainly when talking about overused, unproductive female tropes in video game culture, the "experts" in the field will be those gamers most cognisant and effected by it.
That's also true, of course. Nevertheless, there are experts on the field. For instance here at Linz University there's a whole department focussed on gender studies. The people who work there are mainly social scientists, who study the phenomena, but there are also philosophers and ethicists that assess projects and counsel companies on the topic.
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Some claim that Sarkeesian exploits the equality topic just to become famous. I don't think these rumours are true in any way, but there are enough people out there who do and who might attack a game in whichs development she is involved.
I agree that the issue is important, so if the developers want to have a focus on gender studies, I suggest them to ask a scientific institute for help, not a youtube phenomenon.
I also agree that there should be all varieties of women and men in the game (young-old, skinny-obese, rich-poor, beautiful-ugly, mighty-powerless,...), in all social positions and I think that implementing "sexy" non-functional armour would ruin the games atmosphere (except of course if it also were non-functional ingame: Chain Mail Bikini: Armor Rating 0).
On the other hand, I really liked that in Arcanum the physical starting attributes were slightly different (but overall balanced), depending on the characters sex. It would give the game realism, yet it's a dangerous thing to do, regarding negative publicity.
That said, one final remark: I don't have anything against erotics and sex in games, as long as they stay confined to situations where they fit the atmosphere.
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I just counted the members list on the first page of the thread and according to it, currently we have 64 members. With $8 per member that's $512 extra. Might not sound much, but look at it like this: I don't know how much an average developer earns per month, but my guess would be, that we paid already someone to work for about a week. Also, we can consider this a lower limit, since (at least I'm convinced that) many who joined increased their pledge by more than $8.
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I don't see a problem with one single vanity item, especially since it's a single player game. Depending on what kind of item it is, it might even be something that you only use right at the beginning of the game, before you need the item slot for something more useful, like it was for instance in Guild Wars 1 with the Beta bonus items.
If the item would affect gameplay, like the Masters Mask, an enchanted item in Drakensang, given to those who preordered the game, I would be against it, but if its vanity only...
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Hi! I see your party has no Crystalmancer, therefore I'd like to join you on your noble quest.
Soulsource, Crystalmancer of the Obsidian Order
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Basically, if there's already a Mac-Port and it's done right, a port to linux is not much additional work. Both systems use OpenGL for accelerated graphics, and for audio and user input there are several libraries available that work on both systems. Expensive is only the port from Windows to *anything that is not Windows or the Xbox*. There are plenty of Mac users out there, so that it is definitely worth porting to Mac. Now I ask you: If a Linux port with low additional costs is possible, why should a game company not do it?
Edit: Now I've done it. My first post in this forum and already an answer to a trolling-thread. At least, I can give the threadstarter what he deserves: <°)))><
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[Linux] Unable to start game, hangs on black screen
in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Technical Support (Spoiler Warning!)
Posted · Edited by soulsource
If you use the SDL_DYNAMIC_API environment variable instead of LD_PRELOAD, you can just tell libsdl to load your system libsdl2 (the one in /usr/lib64 or similar), which should not be linked against wayland, so you won't need to install it.
Edit: I haven't tried this though, no idea if the game code has the path to ./game/PillarsOfEternityII_Data/Plugins/x86_64/libSDL2-2.0.so hardcoded somewhere, in which case it will probably fail before SDL_DYNAMIC_API ever gets used.