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  1. 10 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

    These two are not compatible with each other, and is probably the biggest component of why nothing changes with our policing institution - if the good ones (and DAs and judges) held the bad ones accountable, the institution would have already necessarily reformed simply as a result of that. Alas, we are where we are today for a reason.

    Perhaps it has something to do in terms of general triats of a person, where in some cases it's good to have such and in other it's not. 

    You need to remember that those "soft-hearted" ones, usually are risk averse and can act too slow or inadequatly in case of dealing with dangerous individuals. The hard-headed ones are more likely to act in higher risk situations and will not be afraid to use overwhelimg force when dealing with real voilence. 

    If your life depended on it, would you rather have emotional people after liberal arts course who will try to talk out the attacker of his voilent actions, but will do nothing out of fear for repercusions, or testosterone oozing enforcement who know their gun work when woke up in the middle of the night and is willing to risk own health and wellbeing to protect you? 

  2. 6 hours ago, Hurlsnot said:

    Fabricated? I mean, the guy died. Does he die if things stay quiet and he has a normal day at his post? He seems to have underlying health conditions, and that will mean it is unlikely anyone will be fully prosecuted for his death. Hardly means the story was fabricated.

    Bashing head with fire extinguisher was fabricated. The officer died, but he was not murdered by an angry mob. 

     

    Speaking of mobs, this seems to highlight some hypocrisy in partisan narratives. 

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    Don't get me wrong, in Trump case there was a narrative about stolen election, which could have riled up emotionally loaded people, but it was nowhere near the level of the direct language of confronting and taking to the streets used by Maxine. 

    Heck on the same eve there was a drive-by attempt to shot National Guard... Just imagine if they would be able to return fire with assault weapons and killed the drive-by morons. (US military killing oppressed minoeities!!!) 

     

  3. @Gromnir

    I think pictures from UK pubs or Israel clubs could have been a factor to encourage people to vaccinate and lead to faster 'normal' life, even if they themselves did not normally see a need. 

    The gatekeeping factor of being vaccinated or not might have played a role 😉

  4. 22 minutes ago, ComradeYellow said:

    Problem is that democrats pushed themselves into a corner where they must do something publically visible to Russia, as they've been pushing the spin that Trump colluded with Russians, that there was Russians involved in meddling in the ellections etc. 

    Sure, Putin is no saint, but if you'd ask yourself, who killed more civilians in the last decade (US GOV or Russia GOV), you'd have some mental gymnastics to do. (that goes both to internal and external civilian figures). 

     

  5. 2 minutes ago, rjshae said:

    The charge is 2nd degree unintentional murder, so there's no need to prove intent to murder. At a minimum it is involuntary manslaughter, but that charge may not apply for a police officer. The challenge for the jury will be determining whether there was intent to do harm. To me it doesn't look good.

    Can this be proven beyond any doubt that there was an intent to do harm? Seems he chose less excessive form of apperhantion, and it did not look from a vid, like he was intending to do harm. There was no excessive force used, no repeated voilent physical actions, and not even verbal ones? There was a prolonged restraint, but there was no pressure to neck and the technique was apporved at that given time. 

  6. I admit, I do not necessarily understand all the nuances of what's what degree of 'murder' and what's manslaughter and what are the exact differences. 

    I guess in my understanding 'murder' would require some sort of action in which the suspect has ability to understand that the given action can result in death, and the suspect decides on continuing that action. 

    Manslaughter is an odd term to me in general 

  7. 12 minutes ago, Malcador said:

     

    I guess if there was ill intent, that would count as murder.  But why does his being aggressive towards Chauvin or the other officers matter at the point he's handcuffed, exactly ? 

    You still can be dangerous? If a person is high on drugs, and there was sufficient behavioral aspects to imply that, that person can still be dangerous to others around and most importantly to oneself. I can imagine a situation, where you want to keep a person restrained until that person has fully calmed down.

  8. 1 minute ago, Malcador said:

    And you're totally not, just in the other direction, right ?

    I'm looking at the presented evidence and opinions so far. 

    I'd say personally, there was definately no intent to murder, and possibly even no intent to do harm, there was however negligence in aspect of checking health state of the apperhanded suspect, and also resulting from that too much time spent on restraining the captive leading to delayed help, which arrived after the suspect was dead. 

    I'd not call it murder in any case, and not sure if it would classify as manslaughter, but I'm no lawyer. There was a role in the death, but I would not attach to it any ill intent towards the captured person, who was aggresive towards other officers prior to arrival of the given officer. 

  9. 7 minutes ago, Hurlsnot said:

    Yeah, the public and the media are going to make it hard for him to get away with it. The 9-minute video of him slowly killing the guy doesn't help, either. 

     

    See, even you are jumping to conclusion, that he 'killed' him. 

    What if he killed himself with drug overdos, while the officer did not assist and failed to recognize that the dude is in agony? What if there was no intent to harm the guy? (police officer could have used more excessive force, including taser, but he chose not to?) 

     

    Did you also jump to a conclusion, that a covington kid was a racist bastard abusing a native american veteran? 

  10. To be honest, I'm quite certain, that vast majority of people, who are warmongering on one or the other side, have no idea how hard their own lifes would be affected, no matter who would eventually win, if the conflict would remain in the convnetional weapons realm (in nuclear, the humanity lost in all scenarios). 

    The amount of disruptions to trade and supply chains, people and property lost, geopol opportunism popping up, to stick it to one side or the other (and guess what country is the most hated one), in fact I'm certain that with the given trends, in a decade US will not have enough social cohesion and enough people feeling American in the way of being willing to die for their country and being proud of their country, that China is waiting to weather this storm, while slowly progressing with investments to have pan-asian land locked trade, and some infrustructure connecting directly to Africa as well. 

    What can US and Western countries do, if you will have an effective trade union from China and Russia, through some old soviet republics, include Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran nd reach to Syria?  What will happen, if that will also get connected to Africa through pipelines? 

    China's demise is that they are pushing unnecessarily Phillipines and India. But those two, with their current govs are hardly reliable partbers for US, Australia and other "western" countries. 

    EU has no teeth, and even Turkey is making it look foolish and weak, by Edrogan humiliating EU delegation(where he did not prepare a room for a german woman, leader of eu parliment) 

  11. Anyone following the trial of D.C.?

    I wonder how fair it is going to be, especially when the "public" and large portion of media made their verdict already. 

    I recently came across by accident on this page, as i looked into behavioral aspects for jury/judge of how the recent riots could potentially influence the ruling. 

     

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/derek-chauvin-trial-prosecution-problems-ignored-or-misrepresented-in-mainstream-media-open-thread/

     

  12. The longer the virus is in virculation among poppulace, where only part of it is vaccinated, the higher chance of a mutation, which will bypass those protections completely. It's a matter of numbers game, and ability to catch up with new variants popping up. 

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