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  1. More on the Belgian anti-terrorits action.

     

    The action was aimed at people who were planning acts of terrorism. Police special forces assaulted several places at the same time. In one cases they were "welcomed" by islamic extremists armed with military grade equipment. 2 of them died others were captured after a firefight that lasted several minutes. The people that were arreste were previously on the watchlists due to their travels to middle-east, Syria in particular. As of now, officials cannot say if they were in any way tied to the terrorist that were responsible for attacks in France.

     

    They also captured a man, who was trading weapon illegally - they investigate his ties to the terrorist responsible for killing a policewoman in Paris and attack on the kosher supermarket. He admitted so far that he wanted to "buy a car" from the wife of the terrorist (the woman who is now pursued by EU authorities and believed to successfully make her way to Syria)

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    The problem with acting sooner is that there was no middle ground. Stopping Hitler at any time before Poland would have meant war. No one was ready for it. The two major players in WW1, France and Britain, also disagreed dramatically about German reperations. Ideal ground for a gambler and brinksman like Hitler. 

     

    yeah so instead of small war it ended up as WW2, doesnt sound any better to me to be honest

     

     

    To be honest, if France and UK would only do as much as honor and execute the defensive alliance agreement that they had signed with Poland, there would be nothing even remotely close to the scale of WW2. Hitler called the bluff of UK and France, which he viewed as too lazy to react, and invaded Poland, allowing his troops to get experience, refine Blitzkrieg and extend economic power and production capabilities.

     

    If France and UK would respond to the aggression just as Poland was attacked, war would be over within a month with Germany losing. But it did not happen and we all know what happened next.

     

     

    Thats basically what I have stated

     

    They should have gone to Poland and fought the Vermacht after the battle had been lost ?. Not practical at all. The allies weren't going to get there in time even with the best of intentions. The French only had enough manpower for a defensive battle and in practical terms quickly settled into the idea of relying on fortifications. How they were eventually going to beat the Germans no one had given much thought. 

     

     

    No, they should have opened immediately the other front, where Germany had no military at all, it's not like the German mobilization and building up the military was already a violation of the peace treaty after WW1. That act alone, could possibly make Germany withdraw and make Russia not join Germany on invasion of Poland in th 1939. We can theorycraft probably more whatifs but the fact is, Hitler banked on the fact that France and UK will do nothing to stop him and he was right.

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    The problem with acting sooner is that there was no middle ground. Stopping Hitler at any time before Poland would have meant war. No one was ready for it. The two major players in WW1, France and Britain, also disagreed dramatically about German reperations. Ideal ground for a gambler and brinksman like Hitler. 

     

    yeah so instead of small war it ended up as WW2, doesnt sound any better to me to be honest

     

     

    To be honest, if France and UK would only do as much as honor and execute the defensive alliance agreement that they had signed with Poland, there would be nothing even remotely close to the scale of WW2. Hitler called the bluff of UK and France, which he viewed as too lazy to react, and invaded Poland, allowing his troops to get experience, refine Blitzkrieg and extend economic power and production capabilities.

     

    If France and UK would respond to the aggression just as Poland was attacked, war would be over within a month with Germany losing. But it did not happen and we all know what happened next.

  4. well Africa never really developed civilization, even though it is arguably a cradle of humankind, aside of the Egypt, who are were more like arabic mediterranean people in sculptures, and Carthage, who was phoenician descendant. If not for colonizaton and exploration era, they would most likely still live in huts as some tribes did even 50 years ago. Although there was something in the area of current Ethiopia, but I never really dug into that part. I would be more curious why it failed to spread and sustain itself.

     

    They are simply at this point not able to come to some conclusions. I have opinions that might come as a bit racist, but the facts and thousands of years of evolution and adaptation speak for themselves, the modern era of last 50-100 years won't change that just because someone might not like it.

     

    it might be shocking for us, but for them it's been history for thousands of years of tribal warfares. Only the tools of war have changed, and mainly due to external influence.

     

    In Europe it took two World Wars, major damages and depopulation, to develop the idea of moving conflicts and disagreements from military solutions to diplomatic ones.

     

    In USA it took the civil war and involvement in two wars to get some idea of diplomacy foremost, although they are still very militant, as they never sustained major damages and depopulation on their homeland as a result of a major conflict.

  5. To me, multiculturalism should be a blending of cultures, with a recognition of where they came from and why they existed. But as gets pointed out, what you seem to be getting is communities of one culture forming, and insisting on their right to keep their culture exact as it is, in whichever new country they've moved to, while also insisting that they shouldn't have to adapt to the cultures around them.

     

    This kind of has zones of all the "Indians/poles/insert_cultural group" buying/renting houses in areas where there are family members already living, forming "little russias/chinas" etc, where you can walk into and pretty much only hear the language of their original country/culture spoken. I have no problem with people honouring the culture they come from, or making sure their children can speak the language and have the connection to their past. But I think it does start to become a problem when it becomes ingrained that you are separate from the culture you (or your parents / grandparents) emigrated to.

     

    You have that these groups for a variety of reasons (whether economic, political, or religious) decide to leave their country of origin and move to another place for a better chance at a peaceful life where they can prosper, but the moment they arrive it turns into a "but I don't want to join your culture, I just want the benefits it provides."

     

    If we look back at the past, it seems that America used to have a situation where people emigrated looking for that "Freedom" to put in hard work, and potentially make a fortune and rise. You had the poor immigrants and refugees staking everything, and while they did respect their own culture you had the parents encouraging their children to learn English, and do well in school, and work within the system. - Okay, that might be somewhat rose tinted but consider the way the Irish and the Italians and the Koreans and Vietnamese went over and merged into the great melting pot.

     

    Nowadays (especially in Europe it seems), it's not so much about that. It's moving somewhere, then milking the system for the benefits while refusing to adapt themselves, and complaining that they don't have the opportunities because they're a minority group and the country they've moved to isn't giving them a chance or adapting to them. That isn't "good" multiculturalism. How can I respect that, when they don't want to respect me or where they've decided to move to and raise their children?

     

    This, and I am saying as a Polish origin person staying currently in Vancouver, Canada.

  6. Multiculturalism and tolerance don't create ghettos, struggling economies do.  

     

    nope, those people were not willing to assimilate from the start, they wanted to bring their own laws and social behaviors, but get the benefits of welfare state and better standard of living than they had in their countries. It has nothing to do with struggling economy, unless you want to tell me that the economy has been struggling for the last 40 years all the time.

  7. People who are EU-sceptics and in the right wing ideologically will use this incident to highlight the failure of multiculturalism. But this terrible event definitely doesn't mean the end of multiculturalism., but it does raise an issue that countries like France now face.

     

    Firstly almost the entire global  Muslim community has condemned this attack, so its not a case of  " Muslims actually support this type of action ". We know this terrorism was committed by Islamic extremists and they don't represent the broader Muslim community

     

    And finally France is one of those countries that is an active target for fundamentalists. This exists for many reasons like their history with Algeria, there support for various UN campaigns like Libya and some of the recent laws they have passed that are seen to some as "Un-Islamic ". They have the largest Muslim community in Europe and add to that there social structures ( lots of disenfranchised Algerians live within France)  and geographical borders you can understand how they can easily become a target for various extremist groups

     

    My thoughts go out to the families of the victims of this senseless violence 

     

     

    To be honest, the multil-culturlalism in its current/original form IS a failure. It gave too much tolerance, which led to creation of communities, that simply do not want to assimilate to the local culture and created their own "ghettos" and too many allowances were given to the immigrants. It even created so called "No Go Zones", where even ambulances or firefighters are simply afraid to go to help in case of emergency.

     

    Also as I said in some other thread, tolerance should go as far as the other side is also willing to go. Try to go to a muslim country and demand the same things that they demand in EU countries for themselves (applying own religious laws, places of worship, etc.), you will be surprised with the reaction. You have no such problems with other communities like asian, hindu, etc. Only the muslim one is non-tolerant.

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    hmm some side news... seems that The Anonymous declared a cyberwar on islamic terrorists

     

    Oh, good. So we can look forward to Anonymous hacking their machines, ruining the evidence chain, and destroying criminal prosecutions, just like they did with other criminals?

     

    Vigilante justice ...away!

     

     

    i do not know french so i can hardly translate that properly and say what are their exact intentions. I assume lockout of various internet communication channels, but if so, this may do more harm than good, since the same channels might be monitored to gain intelligence on some people and possibly thus mitigate other risks.

     

    on the other news, that jewelry store hostage situation seems unrelated to the other attacks. most likely  an armed robbery attempt that went wrong

     

    apparently one of the terrorists was trained in Al-Qaeda camps in Yemen

     

    EDIT: the president of France is a retard...

     

    "the ones that committed these crimes have nothing to do with muslm religion. The attack on the supermarket was an act of anti-semitism "

     

    The political correctness at its finest... peak of mount stupid...

     

    I wonder if the policewoman shot on patrol by the same people who later attacked the supermarket was also a victim of non-muslim act of antisemitism (sarcasm)

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    According to police there at least 4 hostages dead though, so not completely flawless sad.png 'at least' implies that some might be in critical state

    Well, that sucks. I guess France24 was initially correct

     

     

    well "all hostages dead' is a bit different message, but still, shame that some random people lost their life on this day in such circumstances.

  10. Some news.

     

    According to some sources the man who killed a policewoman and injured a technician was tied to the terrorists who were responsible for the attack on the cartoonists.

     

    The suspects are under siege in a small town Dammartin-en-Goële. They barricaded themselves a small printing house,probably holding hostages. There is a school for minors nearby the spot.

  11. romance should not = releasing arising sexual tension. Yes stressful situations and feeling of danger get some people together. sexual contact is one of natural stress relief methods and it was proven. That does not mean I need to have this in the game. If i want sexual contact without good "romance" I'll go out to a club or date someone. RPGs and books should show romance more in "love" tones than just "affection and sex". The first is hard to find, the latter is way too common and I do not need that.

  12. btw, while all you have fun writing about gun debate, which is pointless regarding the topic, two fresh news:

     

    1) There was a grenade thrown into one of the mosques in Le Mans - southern France (around 6:00-7:00 CET)

     

    2) A police woman was shot on patrol (her injuries were fatal) in the southern district of Paris - Montrogue (around 7:15 CET). Second civil technician working for police was injured during the incident. Officially it is yet unknown if it is connected to massacre at the newspaper offices, but the captured men in its 50s was masked and dressed in black and he also used automatic weapon. He origins from Africa. Internal affairs minister went to the site of attack.

     

    as for the gun debate:

     

    the allowance of the guns, increases security, HOWEVER, criminals which decide to commit to the crimes keep that in mind, and in turn not risk less violent solutions and thus open fire to the victims more often than in the situation where they might assume that the victim does not own a lethal weapon.

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