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  1. I had similar feelings towards magic system in POE as the OP, at least mage wise. I supposed grimoire is just more sophisticated tool than what we have seen earlier (which it is) generally blueprints, guide for making wiz more sophisticated in shaping those energies...unlike druid or other more intuitive, feel it, zen meditate, whatever...shape it and cast it. I was bit dissapointed that without the spellbook he is pretty much powerless by what we know so far. No matter if he can tome by heart so to speak. All magical energies are stored within the book. Wiz just sort of tunes himself /his soul with the book, so others cant use it at the moment he is using it. That is kind of dissapointing me. It is like cypher having to go with similiar device so he would use his psionic abilities or druid had to use just some magical wooden staff to access forces of nature, without it he is just another treehugger and sort of hippie.

     

    Whn it comes to the realm og magical, evrything is possible and devs are making this world. Imo it just doesnt feel right somehow, I am trying and I guess I have to play it to pass valid critiq, just lorewise it annoys me hehe. I will play it and might be wrong but It acually came to point I almost got dissaponted that I funded the game. I felt as fi got carried away maybe, had my own idea than what it really is. Yeah it is shallow, vain and it is not about the single class, but the overall story, the universe and bla bla bla. Yeah yeah, but I dont feel it as I used too. Anyway, it doesnt have to be that way, but probably will, like that silly explanation tech vs magi in Arcanum, God how I despised that and I do to this day. 

  2. Then you don't remember much about Icewind Dale.

    You are right, perhaps I should go replay Icewind Dale to revisit the epic tale of PC cleric #2, and the tragic death of his lover PC mage #1.

    If there is a plot to icewind dale, then it fell into the same trap as FF12, in that the story follows some random pricks instead of whoever the story is really about. You saw an amazing story, I saw a string of cliches that existed only to drag me from dungeon to dungeon, ending with a boring twist that doesn't really change anything.

     

    I seriously enjoyed IWD. Just becouse it was unlike BG series start where it all starts with shock and murky revelations, but kind of slowly builds up. I acually had immense fun designing my group. Acually, it took me several hours to make backstories and find appropiate portraits. Considering your #1 and #2 , you did the same. 

     

    Sure mages need silly grimoire to store ALL their magical powers. Mages are not like vessels themself and grimoire should just be this uber cool tool, but is acually alpha and omega of a mage and what not...very annoying...very, very, very. Oh and trolls are oversized green Toads! Dont get me on that one. By all that is fuzzy and unholy!

     

    So with all that said, after going throught the thread, by my imaginary powers of divination...I can safly bet you will most likely and probably enjoy this type of game, despite your personal worry about some of elements you belive might not be up to the expectations.   

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     how much you guys think a comission is for some artist to do ingame portrait?

    depends on the quality you're after - professional artist, you could be looking at a few hundred dollars (unless you want the copyright in the image too - then more).  Semi-pro, a bit less maybe.

    You could find a hobbyist to do it in return for a GOG game or something.

    Or just wait til the community start churning out portrait packs for PoE sizes and hope one fits.

     

    Personally, I like to make my own portraits.  They won't be as good as Kaz can do, but they should fit the style enough to not look out of place.  Eventually (too busy right now), I'll add a few to the art-thread.  At such a time, if you like the style, you can offer 'suggestions' on what kind of portrait would be 'cool' and I'll try to accomodate ;)

     

     

    That sounds pretty good and thank you kind soul and I like idea that it fits with ingame artstyle. Until such time than :) 

     

     

     

     how much you guys think a comission is for some artist to do ingame portrait?

    depends on the quality you're after - professional artist, you could be looking at a few hundred dollars (unless you want the copyright in the image too - then more).  Semi-pro, a bit less maybe.

    You could find a hobbyist to do it in return for a GOG game or something.

    Or just wait til the community start churning out portrait packs for PoE sizes and hope one fits.

    ;)

     

     

    That sounds about right. Depends on how complicated the portait, but I'd probably do it for 200 or so.

     

     

    Well, I had to know, now I know. Thanx for offer tho :)

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    Looks pretty gender ambiguous to me:

     

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    Sure it has a mane of sorts, but it doesn't look like lion nor does its mane look like that of a lion's so you could pass it off as an attribute of both sexes. To be honest it looks more like a werebobcat than a werelion.

     

    Note that all the developers said was that this is a "cat" form; there's nothing about a werelion or a werebobcat. But I agree with you about the genderless appearance.

     

    I know...If that thing coupulates with another of those things...we would classify it! Now to capture us some male and female druids and have them go at it. Right. Nothing bizzare or pervy about that, it is all in name of progress.

  5. Think of it that the Druids and Priests have powers sent directly through them by their deities or what have you, whereas the Wizard is using his skills, knowledge, grimoires and rituals, incantations etc. to harness and manipulate the magical forces around him; a conductor so to speak.

    At least, that's what i shall do...

     

     

    Yeah i will have to do the same i guess, have to cheat in my mind tho.

     

    Well yeah, I have to agree, in a sence they do shape spell whn you put it that way...the magic energies from grimoire have to be realised somehow and have to be stored, so certain shaping takes place than. But it is not just shaping or how it takes place that I found "meeh", for lack of better expression :)

    I feel you. I prefer the "I actually take energy/mana into myself and shape it into something else before releasing it" as well. And yeah, the Wheel of Time reference is great. The grimoire right now acts basically just like a ter'angreal; it gathers and manipulates the energy to do what it does (or, rather, each spell in the tome is like a separate ter'angreal. It's like a ter'angreal multi-tool, haha). But, alas, it seems we won't really see any angreal or sa'angreal-type devices that simply deal with energy being gathered by/into the user himself.

     

    Whereas, in contrast to the Wizard, the Druid actually does stuff like that. The innateness of the power/ability is my favorite. BUT, I'm still okay with the way Wizard's work. It's kinda cool, in its own way. 8P

     

     

    Yup, "ter'angreal multi-tool" is perfect description :)  very clever, I chuckled, couldnt have said it better.

     

    Yeah knowing the druid, I thought mages or magics work in similiar fashion. Druid, something like hippie mage, goes with the flow (nature). Mages are like 'cheats', hence grimoire. Engineers of magical flow. They are not content with the "flow" of river, they want to make a dam or change it's current, etc. Thought of grimoire(spellbook) like blueprints for such, which they are in a way, just that one draws it all from grimoire not one self...So yeah, power/ability is more to my likness. Best not overthink it tho, argh!

     

    I will do cornishr reasoning ingame if playing a mage. It is not just grimoire it is me, damn it! Like in last Iron Man movie, Tony Stark had epiphany at end of the movie, even without the suit, he is the Iron Man. So yeah, from today I enter blissfull denial :)

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    @Tauron Depends how you look at it...

     

    The wizard could shape magic if he wished but elects not to because he finds it inefficient, preferring to research and study magic.

     

    Mhmhmhm...thats...thin. But I appreciate the effort :)

     

    I dunno.... I'd say the Wizard shapes magic, he just uses tools (namely, a Grimoire -- all the associated materials and techniques) to do it, instead of some innate ability.

     

    Also, if his soul energy is in no way affiliated with the operation of the Grimoire, then why does switching grimoires mid-combat result in a delay while the new grimoire attunes itself to the wielder? And grimoires use spells, but someone's gotta devise and "create" (in the sense of coming up with the "recipe/formula" for imbuing a page in a grimoire with the correct properties necessary to cast this spell through that page/grimoire) those spells, right? *shrug*

     

    Honestly, what Wizards do in this lore makes me think of alchemists in the Full Metal Alchemist world.

     

     

    Well yeah, I have to agree, in a sence they do shape spell whn you put it that way...the magic energies from grimoire have to be realised somehow and have to be stored, so certain shaping takes place than. But it is not just shaping or how it takes place that I found "meeh", for lack of better expression :)

     

    The way I first understood wiz, before this update, is that wiz IS having some "innate" ability (talent+), not necessary from birth, (although that could be a + or - in character creation) but from learning to cast spells.Through practice, trail and error this ability grows, his soul becomes greater conduit to channel  power. Like swordsman, sort of, certain things become instinctive once you applied it in practice many time. Except that wiz is a "sword" and "arm" that wields it is a mind (will, wisdom, int, wit..., hell even reflexex, instinct...you name it) Grimoire is a sophisticated tool to channel those energies, or better yet, makeing those energies more far moe sophisticated (that is the biggest diff betwean priests and druids i thought mainly).So like a rifle with a scope, scope being grimoire in this analogy, or like artillery...without proper navigation(grimoire), reading coordinates and what not, it is of little use i guess. I hope i am making some sense of my thoughts.

     

    So no matter how good one learns spells by heart or becomes something like..., uhmm, sort of grimoire (spellbook) "Hafiz". Without acuall enchanted grimoire at hand, all that knowledge is useless i guess. I guess that is one of things that doesnt ding well. I got notion that grimoire(spellbook) beyond making magic more sophisticated, could serve as "sa'angreal" from wheel of time series. Like artificial conduit to channell more power. Reading first time about it, it kind of made sense. In D&D one has all sort of enchanments to increase power, staff, dagger, rings etc. Yet the very spellbook just always remained place to write spells, conviniet UI. In that sence, grimoire is improvment, but for some reason the way I fully understood update Wiz imo felt suddenly empty. It was suppose to be my first choice, but now even druid and cipher sound better. 

     

    I havent seen full metal alchemist, I heared it was good. Will give it a look.

     

     

     

    @Tauron Depends how you look at it...

     

    The wizard could shape magic if he wished but elects not to because he finds it inefficient, preferring to research and study magic.

     

    Mhmhmhm...thats...thin. But I appreciate the effort :)

     

     

    The way I am understanding it, is that they create devices to create magical effects. A spell scroll is not an instruction manual on how to cast a spell, it is a machine which creates said spell. The grimoire functions as a glorified housing for said machines.

     

     

    Yeah, it does appear so. Although I had this notion it was also instruction manual of sorts, granted it was enchanted. I just thought some of the mages power comes from his own well/soul, rest are sophisticated tools to amplify and channel certain energies. 

     

    I would be uber hypocrit if I didnt say I acually wanted something similiar. I did make rant on occasion how I'd like to see "Techomage" class. I just thought mage (soul PoE lorewise) was first and formost where these energies sort of come from, you know his "chi".

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