[The Music Thread]

Paramore: "Fences"

[The Music Thread]

From First To Last: "Secrets Don't Make Friends"

311: "Whiskey And Wine"

311: "Amber"

Sublime: "Ball And Chain"

Sublime: "One Cup Of Coffee - Don't Judge (Bob Marely cover)

Hate Breed: "Destroy Everything"

Rage Against The Machine: "Bulls On Parade"

Great Lake Swimmers: "Your Rocky Spine"

Sum 41: "Fat Lip"

Aiden: "Moment"

Blink 182: "Roller Coaster"

Blink 182: "Another Girl Another Planet"

Blink 182: "Josie"

 

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.......

[Eulogy for a game]

THE HEADLINES READ:

 

GEORGE LUCAS HELD HOSTAGE BY CRAZED SWKOTOR FANS

 

Maybe someone will write the continuation of k2 that we want . *HINT! HINT! HINT! OBSIDIAN* (if they're even listening)

 

They would probably even make nice money off a book. Though... a k3 game couldn't be beat. =(

[Eulogy for a game]

the future of k3 doesn't depend on the releasing of a game. it could be a book and i'd be happy. if you can convince LA that there is mounds of money around the releasing of k3 (game, book, movie), there is a chance. i have to partially agree with the DeathScepter. everything about swkotor rests in the hands of the fans. if the majority of fans want k3 (not the MMO), that's what they'll get. although.... the chances of the majority of swkotor fans refusing to play the MMO is slim. =(

I for one... will not play the MMO. end of story. that's what i mean when i say that the possibility of k3 rests in the success of failure of the MMO.

 

FANS, UNITE!!

[Eulogy for a game]

The possibilty of k3 all depends on how well the MMO goes. Maybe if the MMO bombs out, they'll say "Hey! Maybe a continuation of k2 -that's not a MMO- is a great idea!" If the money they made the MMO for doesn't show up.... maybe they'll see it the fan's way.

 

Don't bury swkotor 3 just yet...

 

I'll wait for the feedback on the MMO before I throw myself on the coffin, crying with grief.

[KotOR 2 ending]

kreia gives you the option of leaving like revan or staying (like her). if the exile does leave like revan, then he/she would have to leave everyone behind. who said that the exile couldn't fly a ship? who said the exile would even have to fly the ship?

 

[KotOR 2 ending]

I will agree with the majority. The ending was bad. Though... not as bad as it could have been. Think of it this way:

The open ending will leave room for K3 (if there is one) to step in and explain what the heck happened. What happened to, The Exile, Atton, T3, HK-47, and Baodur? Kreia said that others would be needed to fight the sith. I always liked to assume that those were those others. Atton in particular. =)

I wonder why all the chicks like Atton so much.

 

sweet pic babydol!!

[Books]

New Hitchhiker's author announced.

 

Children's author Eoin Colfer has been commissioned to write a sixth instalment of the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy series.

 

Mostly Harmless, the last Hitchhiker book, was written by its creator, the late Douglas Adams, 16 years ago.

 

Now Adams's widow, Jane Belson, has given her approval to bring back the hapless Arthur Dent in a new book entitled And Another Thing...

 

Eoin Colfer, 43, is best known for the best-selling Artemis Fowl novels.

 

Has anyone read the Artemis Fowl novels? Is he up to Douglas Adams' standard?

 

Well, I bet he can do the goofball humor because that isn't too hard. In fact, every now and again I read the Hitchhiker's series and suddenly I'm spouting off the same goofball stuff all over the place. What the hard thing is about Douglas Adams standard is making plots that make sense and characters that you care about while doing the goofball thing.

 

Personally, I didn't like the Artemis Fowl series. It was silly and stupid. The only good character worth reading about was Butler. The idea of a boy genius chasing little people around made me want to kill myself. No!!! He's not up to Douglas Adams' standard (at least not in my opinion)!!!!

[Books]

Not recently, but a few months ago I read Pride and Prejudice. Typical Novel from Tsarist Russia, as if Tolstoy could be typical. It was good, but I prefer his shorter works. I still prefer Dostoyevsky, but both are truly masterful authors.

 

I've more recently read Founding Brothers. Excellent book about key historical figures in the post-revolution/early republic era. It kind of gave the false impression it would feature a larger number of bios, and I completely disagree with the author's forward regarding the so called "short-lived" Roman Republic, but the work itself is quite good.

 

Around the same time, I read War Letters. Good read. The letters are remarkable and presented without any edits.

 

Finally, I re-read the Chronicles of Amber. Well.... I re-read the Big Book of Amber or some such. I much prefer the original, flaws in continuity and all, because the Merlin stories really don't succeed in paving over the mistakes of the first, but lack the magic. Still, a good read. RIP Zelazny.

 

I like Leo Tolstoy as an author because he understands the hearts of men so well. Although I have read some of his longer works, I find his short stories far more interesting.

[Bioware/EA's KotOR Online leaked]

Kotor online??!!!!! *Screams*

EA can eat shist for all I care. BioWare... what happened baby?? I thought we loved each other. *cries*

MMO??? MMO??? WHY!!!!!????? If there is anything we can do, it is to voice our displeasure. Well??? Who's with me?

We'll start a massive hate mail. send all your messages to my aim e-mail (located on my obsidian page). I will take on the challenge of doing this. just leave me your message to BioWare and your first name or your user name on obsidian under your quote. This means sssooooo much to me and i'm willing to fight for what i (and everyone else) wants.

[Zombie survival]

Zombie capitalism is always the best way to go. Maybe they like the taste of brains more than any other body part. Ear tacos.

If zombies did take over the world, i wonder if they would have a "Zombie Food Network". Zombies randomly coming out the ground isn't a problem. Zombies as a result of a virus or some scientific experiment gone bad would be a BIG problem. For all you non-Americans know we could have already developed such a virus. Then again...Switzerland has a black hole generator.

We were the first to make the atom bomb. Who knows what crazy **** we'll come up with next! Although... the way both our economy and elections are going... we'll be screwed in a couple years (if not by the end of this year).

[Zombie survival]

1. How many zombies are we talking about?

2. I live in the country. so... i can live of the land.

3. My father owns three chainsaws.

4. What kind of zombies are we dealing with (it makes a difference)?

5. Are they slow and dumb (i love those kind) or fast running and quick to learn (God help us!)?

6. My neighbor is a avid gun collector (got to love that pump-action shotgun).

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

hope is all we can do....

i don't think that the "chosen one has come yet"

neither Anikan or Luke brought balance. what really pisses me off is that no matter how many times the jedi destroy the sith (or vice versa) there are always survivors. the cycle is never ending!!! oh well... i guest that's just life...

good points esabria! *clapping*

i hope to see some positive news concerning k3 come out this year.

 

(off subject)

it's almost my b-day!!!! yay!!

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

i'm more of a fan of the old sith (the ones buried on korriban). Darth Nilihus was bad ass... but... he got his ass killed by the exile (though Nilihus probably would have won if he wasn't weak from hunger).

 

Nihilus lost in no small degree because the exile had an advantage Nihilus was totally unaware, but which Kreia knew full well and exploited to secure Nihilus' defeat. The exile is a wound in the force and has no force power of his own, so the moment Nihilus tried to drain him, he sucked a void or vacuum, which essentially meant his doom.

 

the sith seem to possess more unique force abilities than any jedi ever could.

 

They guard their higher powers far more than the jedi and so they seem more secret. The jedi can share knowledge of power, but a sith never could - a sith's greatest enemies are other sith, not the jedi. As Palpatine would say, all who hold power fear to lose it.

 

i don't know why revan did what he did. i don't think anyone does... yet.

 

It is and remains the player's choice. Revan's motive is whatever you want it to be. I don't think K3 will mess with that, mostly because there is no reason to - Revan is out there fighting the true Sith, and that's all the plot needs him to do.

 

i think kreia thought more of the exile than she did of revan. don't even try to fight me about that one. you know that one's true.

 

Well, Kreia said as much. She said the exile was the greatest she ever trained, which would mean greater than Revan, since she trained him as well. Then again, the exile being a wound in the force is something Kreia both admires and needs for her cause. The exile can resist the will of the force. There is nothing to suggest Revan could ever do that. So it might be argued Kreia liked exile more for that ability than for any choices made. Kreia is a difficult one to figure out.

 

my main argument about the exile was that you probably won't be playing as him/her in k3 as a main character. i want k3 to be played outside of republic space. the only places i would want to go in republic space will be either malachor V or korriban. the game (k2) makes it pretty obvious that revan wanted the republic to survive (for whatever reason... good or evil).

 

Malachor V is unlikely to appear in K3, since it was destroyed in the LS ending of K2. Besides, neither Korriban nor Malachor V are in republic space.

 

I don't think we'll be playing Revan or exile in K3, though. More likely a new pc with Revan and exile being important NPCs in the plot. I'd see some initial part of the plot in republic space, but the majority in the unknown regions finding and fighting the true Sith. Lots of Sith worlds we know little about like Ch'hodos, Rhelg, Khar Delba/Khar Shian, Thule or especially Ziost.

 

I don't think it's obvious that Revan wanted the republic to survive in TSL unless he is set to LS. If DS, you might as well argue that being unwilling to use the Starforge, Revan could not marshal enough forces to take the republic, so he might have sought out the true Sith to become their leader and then use those forces to attack the republic. I mean, that's a possible scenario, isn't it?

 

no sith being a powerful as Palpatine...?? that's bull. there are tons more powerful force wise.

 

Nope, it's fact because George Lucas says that's how it is, and his judgement is ultimate in Star Wars. If George says Palpatine is the most powerful Sith ever, then that's it. If he says Anakin is the chosen one, then so he is. We can love or loathe that all we want, it won't make any difference.

true.

i disagree with the statement that the jedi appear to have no unique powers because they share power freely. give me some examples of jedi that have powers to match the greatest of sith lords. kreia is hard to read. that's what makes her interesting. she is probably my favorite charater of all time. =)

i didn't know that korriban was outside of republic space (i don't know everything). i know my hope for malachor V appearing in k3 is a false one. still... i hold those hopes (it's dumb... i know). so... we agree with the exile theory i expressed earlier. THAT'S GREAT!! either way revan let the republic survive. therefore... it was his will to let the republic survive (even if he was going to kill it later). that is a possible scenario. it's a good one as well...

doesn't lucas arts opperate outside of george lucas?? even if he is the creator of star wars... is don't much like george lucas. then again i don't know much about palpatine... besides the fact that he built the empire and pretty much destroyed the jedi. do you know anything about palpatine's adventures before he became a senator and leader of the empire?? anakin wasn't the chosen one was he?? wasn't luke the chosen one??

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

k1 aside...

i totally agree with the "common alliance against the true sith eliminates LS/DS differences. ok =)

you're sort of right on the revan/exile voice issue. why not have "darth vader voice" (robotic)?

 

Why? None of them have suffered injury that would make that relevant last we heard. Besides, KotOR already had that with Malak.

 

kreia gives you three choices.

1. leave malachor V (and probably go look for revan).

2. stay on malachor V and help others find the way.

3. continue your exile (where ever).

 

But nobody says the exile must follow either choice for good, and given that the first one is the same as for the LS ending, which one is the exile likely to have taken by the time KotOR3 begins? My point is that TSL tried to reconcile why Revan had chosen to go and seek the true Sith regardless of whether you chose the LS or DS ending in K1, even though those endings were pretty different. By the same token, the exile ends up in a similar place in TSL, setting the stage for a KotOR3 plot where the starting positions of Revan and exile are already in place.

 

what you say about saul karath is true... but... why saul karath?? why not carth's child or bastilla and revan's love child? whatever... the whole star wars love story thing was never my favorite parts (although... it does play a huge part in the story).

 

I thought Saul Karath, because his child would be hated in the Republic for the sins of the father. I mean, if this child was force sensitive, how would even the jedi respond? Surely even they would be reluctant to teach the child, fearing it might take his or her father's path. What better ironiy would it be to have a such a person become pivotal to the fate of the galaxy - will this person save a galactic republic that hates him or her, or will he or she against it out of revenge for the treatment. Lots of character potential right there, I think.

 

i acknowledge revan for what he truly was... a plain old jedi/sith. i admire him because he does what he thinks is best. he's whatever he needs to be to accomplish his ends. you must admit though... revan was truly a powerful jedi/sith. kreia said that when she looked at him she said it was like looking into the heart of the force. i do hate all those people (revan fanboys as you call them) who look at revan like he's some sort of god. i would like to learn about revan's and the exile's childhood. i wouldn't want an entire game about it though!!

 

Well, yes and no. Kreia says Revan was powerful, but then she's not exactly the most impartial source, being his old mentor and clearly very proud of it. It's almost as if regardless of al the terrible things Revan did, she prides herself on how significant Revan has been to galactic history, perhaps because she is bitter over how her own teachings have always been scorned by the jedi and so never allowed her to achieve her own goals, so now she takes pride in the accomplishment of the "child" she has raised. Kreia is a mother-like character and very proud of her "son" Revan. Berating the exile for his or her missteps frequently comes with ill-hidden references to how much better Revan did things. Not that I disagree Revan was powerful, mind you. I consider Revan among the most powerful sith/jedi of his age.

 

As for hearing about the childhood of Revan and exile, no thanks. I agree with qt-pi (heh - just got that ) that their pasts is whatever you want for them as pc of their game. This is especially true in Revan's case because his motives for "falling" to the dark side is for the player to decide. Was Revan seduced by the dark side or did he, as Kreia speculates, never fall but instead made a choice to become something terrible to serve a greater good? That goes to the heart of who Revan is, and you can't delve into that without interfering with motives that are for the player to decide. This is one thing that TSL handled really well by letting characters speculate about it but not giving evidence for. It has created a few problems too, though, like some fans who now insist that Revan is so powerful that even the dark side itself cannot control him, that he is beyond corruption, and than he only took the mantle of sith lord to gain more power and only did horrible things to the republic in order to prepare for the coming struggle with the true Sith, who would have done worse to the republic anywat (insert unspoken 'so who cares what evil he did to the republic' here).

the whole "robotic voice" thing was more of a joke than a suggestion. i agree. your choices LS/DS mean nothing in effect to the story. it is ultimately the choice of LA as to where the story ends up. saul karath's child doesn't really appeal to me... sorry. there is character potential there though...

well... i take back my comment about revan being "a plain old jedi/sith" he did have some ability. Maybe not so much force wise but... when it came to dueling and leading armies revan probably owns. i'm more of a fan of the old sith (the ones buried on korriban). Darth Nilihus was bad ass... but... he got his ass killed by the exile (though Nilihus probably would have won if he wasn't weak from hunger). the sith seem to possess more unique force abilities than any jedi ever could. i don't know why revan did what he did. i don't think anyone does... yet. i think kreia thought more of the exile than she did of revan. don't even try to fight me about that one. you know that one's true. my main argument about the exile was that you probably won't be playing as him/her in k3 as a main character. i want k3 to be played outside of republic space. the only places i would want to go in republic space will be either malachor V or korriban. the game (k2) makes it pretty obvious that revan wanted the republic to survive (for whatever reason... good or evil). no sith being a powerful as Palpatine...??

that's bull. there are tons more powerful force wise. palpatine building the empire was just good planning on his part. the truth is... revan vs. palpatine one on one... revan wins. revan vs. palpatine... revan with army... palpatine with army.... revan wins. palpatine's death was unimaginative. he got picked up and thrown into an engine... how sad is that? jediphile, when you said something about zapping the rakata when they got basic wrong... i got the funniest picture in my head.

good stuff jediphile... good stuff...

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

revan wears the mask all the time.

 

Ehm, except throughout all of K1?

 

that eliminates gender and the LS/DS. i know that revans LS/DS stance means nothing! revan does whatever revan thinks is best.

 

LS/DS is "eliminated" by the common stance against the true Sith (whoever they are), because they are either a threat to the Republic that LS Revan must stop or else a threat of DS Revan's dream of an empire. But the same is just as true for the exile.

 

As for mask, sure, you can fix the gender/appearance by having both Revan and exile wear masks, but why bother? How many different faces do you have for Revan in K1 and exile in TSL to choose from? And they all worked out just fine, even though that's probably the most seen face in each game. It's a total nonissue. Voice is actually more challenging, but not really a problem - TSL has lots of cut Traya dialogue by both Kreia and Atris, depeding on who turned out to be Traya in the originally planned plot. So having both male and female alternatives for both Revan and exile is not really a major problem. Some argue that exile never spoke in TSL (whereas Revan does make "ready"-comments in K1), but frankly I'd rather have a fixed voice for exile than not have the character speak at all.

 

i would like to point out that in k2... the DS choice results in you staying (it doesn't say anything about you going later!). you either went or you didn't.

 

Kreia: "Instead, I remained here... and now show others the way.But the way lies past me. If you wish to go, then you need to stop me.It is your choice. I had hoped you would follow Revan's path, but you and Revan are... different, and your path is your own.You may take one of the ships that orbit Malachor and depart this place. Or you may remain here on Malachor, and wait for the others, those touched by the Force, who will come in time.Or you may return to your exile, where your presence will no longer affect the actions of others. There is no dishonor in any of these choices... I only ask that you make the choice without regret."

 

i agree that revans fate rests with LA. don't get me wrong... i like the exile way more than revan. k2 kicked k1's ass. what mask?? i've never seen the exile with a mask (besides the ones I PUT ON HIS FACE!!). lol.

 

Well, I'll admit getting that mask is optional and only if you don't sacrifice Visas.

 

i know the mandalorian jedi wasn't a new idea. mira wasn't even truly mandalorian. she was a slave to mandalorians (there's the difference).

 

Obviously she was human, but are there even any of the Mandalorian species left? Didn't seem so to me. Besides, Mira tells the exile she is of mandalorian descent. A slave? Sure, but all the neo-mandalorians were until they decided to join. That's true of all mandalorians we've seen taking their masks off in the games, though I'll admit those numbers are few.

 

saul karath got his ass killed! as far as i know, i've never heard anything about him having children!

 

We didn't, which is why exploring that is a viable option.

 

i'm not a revan fanboy.

 

Didn't say you were. That comment was not directed at you. But there are fanboys out there who have a very exaggerated opinion of just how powerful Revan was and is.

 

i agree. revan was a powerful jedi/sith nothing more. it's the fact that he showed so much foresight in his conquest is the reason he appeals to me (also for his knowledge of the sith). you got anymore??? BRING IT ON!!!!! lol. jk.

 

Satisfied?

k1 aside...

i totally agree with the "common alliance against the true sith eliminates LS/DS differences. ok =)

you're sort of right on the revan/exile voice issue. why not have "darth vader voice" (robotic)?

kreia gives you three choices.

1. leave malachor V (and probably go look for revan).

2. stay on malachor V and help others find the way.

3. continue your exile (where ever).

yeah... about the mask thing... you couldn't put it on (even if you did get it).

mira being of mandalorian descent...? i'll have to check back with you on that one...

what you say about saul karath is true... but... why saul karath?? why not carth's child or bastilla and revan's love child? whatever... the whole star wars love story thing was never my favorite parts (although... it does play a huge part in the story).

satisfied???? not in the least... jk.

i acknowledge revan for what he truly was... a plain old jedi/sith. i admire him because he does what he thinks is best. he's whatever he needs to be to accomplish his ends. you must admit though... revan was truly a powerful jedi/sith. kreia said that when she looked at him she said it was like looking into the heart of the force. i do hate all those people (revan fanboys as you call them) who look at revan like he's some sort of god. i would like to learn about revan's and the exile's childhood. i wouldn't want an entire game about it though!!

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

my reasons are main reason for saying so is the fact that everyone has a different view of the exile (man or woman... light or dark...).

 

Unlike Revan?

 

i know someone said that the people who make the game could make it work out by giving the player options relating to the sex of the exile and to the stance of the exile (light or dark). well... that means more work for the people who make the game and i honestly think it would be a pain in the ass at the beginning of the game to have to set every character to your liking (revan and the exile). i don't mind the idea of making your own character... in fact!!!!... that was one of the most fun things about the swkotor games.

 

Again, this is just as much an argument against Revan as against the exile. Did Revan's alignment from K1 matter to what role he/she played and had gone in TSL? No. The same will be true of Revan in K3 and is actually even more appropriate for the exile, given that there is very little difference in where the character ends up at the end of the game regardless of LS/DS choice. LS choice: Revan needs you, go and help him. DS choice: Revan needs help, you can go yourself now or you can stay on Malachor V showing others the way before you go yourself later. Plotwise not a lot of difference IMHO. K1 had far, far more different LS and DS endings for Revan.

 

another reason the exile probably wouldn't work is because... without the exile's friends... wouldn't you be useless? i couldn't see the exile working out but... revan... yes! my reasons are:

1. revan is kick ass!

 

Exile kicked way more and had people taking numbers by the end of TSL. Revan's alleged abilities are mostly in the minds of fanboys. He was a powerful jedi, sure, and a excellent strategist, according the mandalorians, but there is nothing to confirm him as the ultimate force-god that some people seem to perceive him to be. Besides, if LA wanted it, Revan could be killed by a pack of gizka.

 

2. the makers of the game know that in k3 they have to bring revan back into the picture.

 

Yes, but no more so than the exile.

 

3. revan wears a mask all the time so... no having to make his character's face and everything (he/ she is just the character that does whatever the hell he/she wants).

 

What, the exile cannot wear a mask? I certainly remember the exile getting a mask in TSL

 

4. revan kicks ass!!!

 

 

here's an idea (i just like to throw ideas out there)... the story could be about revan's apprentice (maybe he'll take a new one on in sith space). likely or no... you choose...

does anyone else have any cool ideas on what the k3 story line could be about?

 

Yes... though only in theory

 

the revan apprentice thing would also kick the having to level revan up again thing out of the picture (since you're the one learning from him). in k3 i would love to be able to play with revan at one point in the game (even if it's two seconds). the revan intro things is very possible... i could see that happening.

the mandalorian jedi thing... i don't mean canderous!!!! =|

 

The idea of a jedi of mandalorian origin is not new. Indeed, we already had one in TSL if you trained Mira. It's been speculated about before, but there should be a better plot reason for it than "OMG, Mandalorians kick ass, so a Mandalorian Jedi must ROXXR!!!" (sorry, not quite into all that jargon). If there is a plot reason, why not. I've yet to see one that looked compelling to me, though. Indeed, playing the son or daughter (gender choice) of Saul Karath or such would seem far more intereresting IMHO.

revan wears the mask all the time. that eliminates gender and the LS/DS. i know that revans LS/DS stance means nothing! revan does whatever revan thinks is best. i would like to point out that in k2... the DS choice results in you staying (it doesn't say anything about you going later!). you either went or you didn't. i agree that revans fate rests with LA. don't get me wrong... i like the exile way more than revan. k2 kicked k1's ass. what mask?? i've never seen the exile with a mask (besides the ones I PUT ON HIS FACE!!). lol. i know the mandalorian jedi wasn't a new idea. mira wasn't even truly mandalorian. she was a slave to mandalorians (there's the difference). saul karath got his ass killed! as far as i know, i've never heard anything about him having children! i'm not a revan fanboy. i agree. revan was a powerful jedi/sith nothing more. it's the fact that he showed so much foresight in his conquest is the reason he appeals to me (also for his knowledge of the sith). you got anymore??? BRING IT ON!!!!! lol. jk.

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

1. I hope Obsidian gets the job. They've earned it!

2. I would like a new character. I know that they could make returns from the old characters possible. I would like to see Revan come back into the story (the Exile not so much).

3. They have to reveal the "true sith" in the next game. They have to be different in some way from other force users. They have to look awesome.

4. Whoever is making the game has to make up some sweet a** threads.

5. There has to be some neutral characters in the game (to balance out everyone else).

6. They have to make sure there aren't any missing endings to the story.

7. I can't think of any more points.

 

by the way... that sith dude who replied to my comment above (i think it's at the end of page 13).... he was totally right... well esabia... the whole mandalore the jedi thing was just an idea but.... you're 100% correct... Revan and the Exile could be put into the new game. i wasn't saying that it was impossible to put them in the k3.... i just think that the creators of k3 won't put them into the game (not the Exile... Revan... maybe).

 

Why don't you think they will include the Exile?

I have a feeling that he might show up in the game but... not as a player (he will most likely show up by name).

my reasons are main reason for saying so is the fact that everyone has a different view of the exile (man or woman... light or dark...). i know someone said that the people who make the game could make it work out by giving the player options relating to the sex of the exile and to the stance of the exile (light or dark). well... that means more work for the people who make the game and i honestly think it would be a pain in the ass at the beginning of the game to have to set every character to your liking (revan and the exile). i don't mind the idea of making your own character... in fact!!!!... that was one of the most fun things about the swkotor games. another reason the exile probably wouldn't work is because... without the exile's friends... wouldn't you be useless? i couldn't see the exile working out but... revan... yes! my reasons are:

1. revan is kick ass!

2. the makers of the game know that in k3 they have to bring revan back into the picture.

3. revan wears a mask all the time so... no having to make his character's face and everything (he/ she is just the character that does whatever the hell he/she wants).

4. revan kicks ass!!!

 

here's an idea (i just like to throw ideas out there)... the story could be about revan's apprentice (maybe he'll take a new one on in sith space). likely or no... you choose...

does anyone else have any cool ideas on what the k3 story line could be about?

the revan apprentice thing would also kick the having to level revan up again thing out of the picture (since you're the one learning from him). in k3 i would love to be able to play with revan at one point in the game (even if it's two seconds). the revan intro things is very possible... i could see that happening.

the mandalorian jedi thing... i don't mean canderous!!!! =|

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1. I hope Obsidian gets the job. They've earned it!

2. I would like a new character. I know that they could make returns from the old characters possible. I would like to see Revan come back into the story (the Exile not so much).

3. They have to reveal the "true sith" in the next game. They have to be different in some way from other force users. They have to look awesome.

4. Whoever is making the game has to make up some sweet a** threads.

5. There has to be some neutral characters in the game (to balance out everyone else).

6. They have to make sure there aren't any missing endings to the story.

7. I can't think of any more points.

 

by the way... that sith dude who replied to my comment above (i think it's at the end of page 13).... he was totally right... well esabia... the whole mandalore the jedi thing was just an idea but.... you're 100% correct... Revan and the Exile could be put into the new game. i wasn't saying that it was impossible to put them in the k3.... i just think that the creators of k3 won't put them into the game (not the Exile... Revan... maybe).

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I've been reading some of your comments. The majority seem to like the idea of having either Revan or "the exile" as a main character. Here's an idea... how about.... a mandalorian, who went before Revan to fight the "true sith" who were causing his people to fight the republic. On the way into the Unknown Regions, his clan is killed and he gets captured (or lost). On the way, he is found (or released) by the exile, and together they find Revan and help Revan fight the true sith. Also in the story, the mandalorian finds out that he can use the force (with help from either Revan or the exile). what do you guys think??

 

 

Mandalore the Jedi?

 

Yeah. sort of.... not Canderous though... Which is more probable.... that they'll use a brand new character or an older character (like Revan or the Exile)? Everyone has already played as both of those characters. So...everyone's views of them are different (like if they're male or female and what they look like). That's why my bet is on a brand new character =( I don't think that the Exile will be involved much in k3 because at the end of k2 Kreia gives you the choice of going to look for Revan or staying on Malachor VI to show others the way. Some people stayed behind and others went to look for Revan. Do you see what I'm hinting at? There are divided views of the characters. (i probably didn't need to say all this but... i did anyways) =P sorry 4 your waste of time...

 

OH!!! Obsidian or Boiware??? hmmmm... OBSIDIAN!!!!!! HOW DARE ANYONE COME ON THE OBSIDIAN ENTERTAINMENT WEBSITE AND SAY OTHERWISE!!!

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sorry... i didn't know. i was hoping k3 would bee released this year but.... i guess it's just not going to happen. oh well... maybe next year...

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Rhen Var would be a cool planet. my planet choices would be Korriban, Rhen Var, Tatooine, Telos, and some new sith planets. on the other hand, scratch Tatooine (and maybe Telos). tell me your planet choices everyone.

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PS: Today microsoft said they would have a big announcement at E3............so hoping for KOTOR3

Although very unlikely

 

Ummm... forgive my ignorance here, but what's microsoft got to do with KotOR 3?

i think one of the companies, that makes kotor games, is owned my microsoft (microsoft might own Obsidian... i'm not sure). nice talkin to ya!

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

I've been reading some of your comments. The majority seem to like the idea of having either Revan or "the exile" as a main character. Here's an idea... how about.... a mandalorian, who went before Revan to fight the "true sith" who were causing his people to fight the republic. On the way into the Unknown Regions, his clan is killed and he gets captured (or lost). On the way, he is found (or released) by the exile, and together they find Revan and help Revan fight the true sith. Also in the story, the mandalorian finds out that he can use the force (with help from either Revan or the exile). what do you guys think??

 

very unlikely and not my favourite idea I heard around here

I like to create my own character with the chance of additional races.

But if they do it I would still buy the game

 

But UnkownRegions keep posting those ideas

 

PS: Today microsoft said they would have a big announcement at E3............so hoping for KOTOR3

Although very unlikely

thanks... i'm new here. the most likely outcome for k3 will either be a completely new character or a pickup of the story of either Revan and the exile (at least I think so). what's your theory? i was so sad when they said that k3 would be delayed. you know what would be cool...? a KOTOR movie!! i also hope they finally reveal this "true sith" *ooooooo.... aaahhhhhh*. k2 was sort of annoying because of all the gaps in the story.

Example: where's the HK droid factory??

but... there is a web site that is commited to fixing those gaps. if you want it i can give it to you.

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

I've been reading some of your comments. The majority seem to like the idea of having either Revan or "the exile" as a main character. Here's an idea... how about.... a mandalorian, who went before Revan to fight the "true sith" who were causing his people to fight the republic. On the way into the Unknown Regions, his clan is killed and he gets captured (or lost). On the way, he is found (or released) by the exile, and together they find Revan and help Revan fight the true sith. Also in the story, the mandalorian finds out that he can use the force (with help from either Revan or the exile). what do you guys think??