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Single class Ciphers are probably the best class with bombs because of Shared Nightmare, but soloing with a cipher might be difficult.
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8 hours ago, dgray62 said:
Mepp22, do you mean the Contender's Armor with maxed Athletics?
I meant Reckless Brigandine. It is pretty well guarded but its not the hardest fight and you can aim to pick it up in the mid game with out much difficulty. The Contender's Armor is probably the best Armor for almost any DPS style build but it comes so late that someone new to the game shouldn't make a build specifically for it.
4 hours ago, Boeroer said:Contender Armor or the Reckless Brigandine. The latter even gives you more engagement.
They both actually give an extra engagement.
I also think both actually look pretty good on a gladiator style character.-
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1 hour ago, Boeroer said:
I guess you mean Entonia Signet Ring?
Keep in mind that its effect is not based on how many enemies you currently engage. It's the other way round: how many enemies engage you?
If the enemies have no engagement/do not engage for whatever reason then the ring doesn't do anything.I mean you kind of will get both. When more engage you it means that you can engage more( if you have enough engagements) which is what you want for the armor.
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Street fighter + Forbidden Fist could also be fun. Using spears and shields means you can get lots of engagements which can help you if you want to get in to the thick of combat. There are some pretty cool items that compliment this style (a ring and some heavy armor that can actually be faster than most light armors). Street fighter is a bit advanced for new players but you can get some pretty great attack speed. Because of Forbidden Fist you will want lots of Resolution (which makes it easier for newer players to survive difficult situations, and on lower difficulty will get you Riposte attacks) and Perception for crits. The other stats can all stay around 10 (Street Fighter can attack super fast even without Dex).
Remember you can always respec your abilities later if you want to but your class and attributes are permanent.
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21 hours ago, Noqn said:
Another fun combo, if your Berserker/Debonaire Charms an ally, they can switch to a weapon set with Modwyr to remove the Int affliction but keep the Inspirations!
Wouldn't Svef work as well? Might be a bit easier than doing a weapon switch. Actually I think that only downgrades Int Afflictions 1 Tier. But Svef with Enlightened Agony should be enough to remove it.
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I imagine you could also use Squids grasp on a Monk/Berserker and have a different party member dominate them. Add Stalker's patience in the offhand and spam Stunning Surge all day long. Swift flurry + Heartbeat drumming with such a high crit chance would be insane since I believe Boeroer wrote somewhere that their crits can trigger themselves. I also assume the extra hits can trigger the 20% chance of 0 recovery. And you can use the rapier modal to further boost accuracy since Stunning Surge will only use your offhand recovery. Both weapons are available super early and would offer some serious DPS all game.
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You can get some serious hit to crit conversion with Intuitive on a Berserker. Maybe Seekers Fang could be interesting, it can be pretty pretty devastating with an Ascendant. I wonder if Spiders Flurry triggers Carnage and if Carnage triggers any of the Dots.
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Does it have to be a party member or can you charm yourself?
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If you don't want to focus so much on Offensive Parry, then Contender's Armor is much better than Miscreant's Leather. Because of how Armored Grace and or Pets with armor Bonus work you can actually get significantly lower recovery time with high Athletics. Because of this you should choose Laborer as your background. Nomad's Brigandine does offer some cool options but if you plan on casting lots of spells then recovery time is pretty important too(many Cipher spells have long recovery). Also there are much better options than Cloak of Greater Protection. Choosing History instead of intimidate means Gift Bearer's Cloth is directly a better replacement. If you really wanted to go down the Nomad's Brigandine path then I would recommend Ruata's Walking Cloak and taking Survival as your passive skill. I also think you might not need so many active abilities. You can only use one active ability at a time while your passives will help you constantly. Since you are going to be criting an awful lot, The Complete Self might be pretty useful. You can basically end up filling up your Focus by casting spells.
Another thing, I am not sure Nature God Like is the best choice. Is the plus 1 Power level better than being able to wear a helm (especially Helm of the White Void)+ some other racial bonus? For a Monk it might be, but most other classes are better off choosing a different race. -
6 minutes ago, depthcharge101 said:
Many thanks for all the feedback, there's a trove of information to digest, and I am getting convinced that Forbidden Fist monk might be the way to go.
Just three very naive questions:
- How would Forbidden Fist monk gain wound for WoW, particularly with Hylea's Talon or Eder Armor trick? Since they gain wound after hostile effect, would that still work? Actually I still don't know how FF monk gain wounds: do they gain wound still based on received damage, but only after a hostile effect? Or they gain wounds in a completely different way.
- I understand the Keeper of the Flame trick (very cool indeed), but I am not planning to get the DLCs (have already done two playthroughs and didn't feel I need more 'gameplay'), so I don't think I would have access to it. But I assume Hylea's Talon is still probably good enough to be mostly on WoW without too much down time?
- I had the idea that I would be using double fists (since it'd make use of SC monk's power level well), but reading all these it looks like weapons are still the way to go. Are there no viable fist builds?
Forbidden Fist only gain wounds when negative effects expire and don't get any wounds from damage taken. When Forbidden Curse expires you gain one wound and since the first level of Forbidden Fist costs 0 wounds you can slowly gain wounds this way, but you probably need a better source early game (Dance of Death/Mortification of the Soul). Hylea's Talon is nice because it give a 25% chance of applying a negative effect on yourself for a fairly short duration. If you have high Resolution and or Clarity of Agony the negative effect expires before it can do much damage. Forbidden Fists also gain a small amount of health back when negative effects expire, because of this you actually end up with a decent source of healing (very useful when soloing).
A lot of the build idea's I talked about require gear from the DLCs. One of the most OP combos in the game is combining Eder's Armor with Keeper of the Flame. I am not sure you will have enough wounds to constantly spam WoW without DLC Equipment. If you want to solo but only the base game I would recommend Nalpasca. You will have a much easier time most of the game and most of the fights that made me rule out Nalpasca are in the DLCs.
Fists are actually great weapons (arguably among the best in the game). I was just taking advantage of some special weapons and using the game mechanics to make some truly OP combos. But honestly you can beat the base game soloing POTD with pretty much any class. Its those pesky Mega Bosses where you need to game the system.-
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7 hours ago, dgray62 said:
Thanks for the build suggestion, Mepp22. I started a SC forbidden fist monk and used the stats of 12 MIG, 12 CON, 16 DEX, 18 PER, 12 INT, 20 RES with berath's blessings. I understand why you suggest religion, for Keeper of the Flame, but why Arcana? Is this just so you can use scrolls? Also, why do you recommend enervating blows? I figured this would be unnecessary since you can already easily apply enervated.
Those look like some solid stats. Arcana is for scrolls especially Avenging Storm. You just have to be careful when using it, you don't want to break Veteran's Maneuver. For example don't use Thunderous Blows at the beginning of the fight or you won't have enough wounds for WoW. Its kind of a thin balancing act but if you pull it off its insane. Very few fights can survive 2 WoW followed by Resonant's Touch if you have Avenging Storm up. You could pick a different Active skill and only use Avenging Storm from the helm, but I like the flexibility of being able to use different helms for different fights. Enervating Blows is nice because you can apply Weaken in mass. Also it reduces Constitution, therefore Fortitude Saving throws which makes it easier to apply Enfeebled.
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4 hours ago, Boeroer said:
Ha - no, I meant Enervating Blows.
Yes, as I said most monks players wouldn't want to give up WotW and stuff just for Inner Death which has several shortcomings. Thinking more about it I also suspect it will not even trigger Enervating Blows because it's implemented like a spell and not a proper melee attack. Like Forbidden Fist - which has the same problem in an unmodded game.Hmm well in that case I think probably the best Combo would be swapping to the wand and shield after you have lots of bleeding cuts then Empowering Stunning Surge. This will almost certainly crit which will Stun and Weaken the enemy and being a Full Attack you have 2 chances to trigger Swift Flurry and Heartbeat Drumming. This will reduce Might and Constitution by 5 which means 20 less Fortitude and reduces Deflection by 10. It also improves Power Level by 3 increasing Transcendent Suffering as well as the inherent Power Level Bonuses. Following this up with a couple Forbidden Fists should be enough to finish off some pretty difficult enemies.
Edit: Actually only the shield bash can trigger Swift Strikes or Heartbeat Drumming. Skullcrusher would also be an alternative to the shield. There is some RNG but adding an injury to a boss is a pretty useful debuff. Also its important to make sure you are in melee range before doing this combo. -
7 hours ago, tptpt said:
Hello, can you show skills tree for Monk Forbidden Fist? As image from 20 lvl think.
I don't actually have a full build planned out right now, mostly its just theory crafting.
Just off the top of my head I would play a Pale Elf, probably something like 8 Might, 10 Constitution, 10 Dexterity, 19 Perception, 12 Intellect, 18 Resolve. Background White that Wends or Aedyr, and job Mystic or Clergy.
Weapon proficiency you will need are Flail, Battle Axe, Sabre (not for the modal but Gauntlets of Greater Reliability might be needed vs certain bosses) Medium Shield, most likely Rapier for early game, maybe Large Shield and maybe Morning Star could be useful.
Skills should be Arcana and Religion.
Abilities: 0 Swift Strikes, 1 Arms Bearer, 2 Two Weapon Style, Sword and Shield, 3 Clarity of Agony, 4 Swift Flurry, Stunning Blow, 5 Blade Turning, 6 Duality of Mortal Presence, Rooting Pain, 7 Crucible of Suffering, 9 Stunning Surge, Enervating Blows, 10 Thunderous Blows, 11 Turning Wheel, Parting Sorrow, 12 Uncanny Luck, 13 Heartbeat Drumming, Improved Critical, 14 Snake's Reflex, 15 Tough, 16 Resonant Touch, Razors Edge, 17 Soul Mirror?, 18 Long Stride or Bear's Fortitude?, 19 Whisper of the Wind, Imagined Pain, 20 Empowered Strikes.
These are probably the skills you would want to have at level 20 but you want to respec once or twice. Dance of Death or Mortification of the Soul are useful early game but later on they don't really help you.
Important Equipment: Stalking Cloak, Saint's Armor, Boots of Stone, Ring of Prosperity's Fortune, Ring of the Marksman or Ring of Focused Flame (when using using Keeper of the Flame depending on how much fire armor the enemy has), Hylea's Talons (Very good early could be replaced later), Gauntlets of Greater Reliability (Very useful vs Mega Bosses where you need to get hits off in order to increase your own accuracy), Crimson Panoply, Belt of Magran's Chosen (when fighting single enemies so you can get a 2nd enemy and use WoW), Horns of the Aurochs, Survivor's Tusk.
Weapons sets:1 Keeper of the Flame+ Scordeo's Edge, 2 Magran's Favor + Wintertide Bulwark or Magran's Blessing (For Boeroer's Swift Flurry trick depending on the enemy). 3 Weyc's Wand + Tuolito's Palm.
Set 1 is for starting fights and when there are multiple enemies. Set 2 is once you have the extra accuracy from Scordeo's Edge and there is only one enemy, 3 is for rapidly finishing single opponents once they have lots of bleeding cuts.
I honestly haven't really tried all of this so lots of it is just theory but I hope it helps
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I assume you mean Empowered Strikes not Envenomed. A big problem with Inner Death is you need two final level Talents to use it properly. One for Empowered Strikes and one for Inner Death which means you can't also get Wow and Imagined Pain which are too good to pass on. Also worth noting is Forbidden Fist is a Power level 0 Ability so it scales incredibly well with Monk Power level. It increases accuracy, penetration and damage additively from Transcendent Suffering (which scales with Power level) and it scales again directly from Power level increasing accuracy, penetration and a hidden multiplicative bonus to the base damage. Add in a couple Lashes (Kahako Nihi, Auroch Horn, Turning Wheel) and you can do some pretty insane damage to a single target really fast. Getting in 3 levels of Forbidden fist (2 in quick succession) can do incredible damage to finish someone off. To be honest I think Forbidden Fist might have higher damage potential than Inner Death.
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Another neat trick you can use late game to finish off tough opponents is to have a weapon set with Weyc's Wand and Tuotilo's Palm that you can switch to. You can Empower a Forbidden Fist which will increase your power level by 3 (increasing your Transcendent Suffering level) and it lets you do a second Forbidden Fist immediately after. Tuotilo's Palm increases your accuracy by 5 and gives you some bonus deflection + reflex. I think the small shield modal gets suppressed by the bonus you can get from Scordeo's Blade so no need to use the modal if you were switching from it. Because of this combo I think Empowered Strikes is the better than Prestige as your final ability. It pretty much guarantees you get a critical hit enfeebled on the biggest baddy you are fighting. Of course you could also Empower something like WoW instead and follow it up immediately with some Forgotten Fists but I don't think Empowered Strikes works on WoW. Although the hits might trigger Least Unstable Coil...
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I agree with Boeroer and dgray62, Helwalker is maybe not the optimal subclass for soloing a monk. Nalpasca would be a great choice if not for Arcane Dampener. And if you don't use mods Shattered Pillar is kind of crappy. I think Forbidden Fist might be the best solo monk class. Enfeebled is such a powerful debuff and super useful all game especially vs hard to kill bosses. Also Hylea's Talons combined with high resolution will actually give you a nice source of healing early (important for solo) as well as wounds. For Race I would chose Pale Elf. This is because Keeper of the Flame combo is so strong and the plus 4 fire resistance can really be a life saver if you do get hit twice and lose Veteran's Maneuver. One thing to keep in mind when using this combo is Mortification of the Soul, Enduring Dance, Enlightened Agony, and Avenging Storm (from helm or scroll) count as a hit vs Veteran's Maneuver so most of the time you really only want to cast Avenging Storm (Swift Flurry and Thunderous Blows are fine it seems). In some fights there is no way for you to prevent getting hit a couple times and in these fights I recommend using different armor and possibly a large or medium shield with modal and Boots of the Stone. In fights where there aren't tons of enemies Scordeo's Edge + battle axe modal combines really well with the Forbidden Fist enfeeble. Another reason to take Forbidden Fist is when you use WoW with the Stalking Cloak, Keeper of the Flame and Boots of the Stone and don't have Veteran's Maneuver running, you will constantly daze yourself which in turn heals you as it expires. Crimson Panoply is also great for this even if you don't have enough enemies to use WoW.
Anyways I think Monks are probably the most fun class to solo with since they are already ridiculously strong and you can win pretty much every fight without cheesing. -
I personally don't think oobit is that necessary, 9/10 times WotW will stun all enemies and you will have enough time to act. If blade cascade triggers (and it does often) you can use WotW incredibly fast with an ai script. Focusing on strength is really only smart if that is the solution to getting Avenging Storm to work, otherwise perception, intelligect and dexterity are better. (it's possible the issue was dance of death and mortification) Perception helps you hit the hardest enemies, intellect increases your aoe so you can make sure you hit/stun everyone, finally dexterity let's you act a bit faster but since you are using WotW it's less important than normal. Also getting reflex higher is important bc if you ever get hit twice you will be making an awful lot of reflex saves. You won't be receiving much healing and ideally every enemy will constantly be stunned so might really only speeds up the inevitable.
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36 minutes ago, dgray62 said:
I'm thinking of trying this, and I see that WotW and Imagined Pain are required for this build. I suppose that Prestige would be the logical third PL9 ability? While it pains me to not get Inner Death, I gather that these three would be the best PL9 choices.
I personally don't think Inner Death is that great of a skill. You really only get full use it if you are sure of a crit. If there is more than one enemy WotW is much better and if there is only one enemy and if you really are sure of a crit then its usually better just to spam Stunning Surge. For me its a choice between Empowered Strikes or Prestige depending on if you are good at using Empowered. It is also important to remember you don't need many active attack abilities. 95% of the time you are fighting multiple enemies and WotW is by far the best choice. Once you get access to WotW you really should think about respecing out of other abilities and getting Bear's Fortitude and Snake's Reflex. ( I would also avoid Soul Mirror because I am not sure if it ends up doing any funky business with KotF.
You should keep in mind this is an endgame build and you really only get to use it for the DLCs so it might not be as much fun earlier (although single class monk is more than capable of holding its own). Also once you get KotF, if you are planning on using a party it probably makes sense to have your party fully ranged or they will constantly end up getting knocked out.-
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Yeah that's why the Stalking Cloak is so effective.
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19 minutes ago, Waski said:
It's great, don't get me wrong, but does not bring anything new on the table for helwalker or nalpazca. But looks spicy for FF.
Against who it will riposte???
It is also great vs the Ooze and Spider. Especially with Belt of Magran's Choosen.
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12 minutes ago, Boeroer said:
You mean Avenging Storm?
You can use Deltro's Cage. It has a 1/rest protection against shock. If you are immune to MIG afflictions you could also use Deltro's Cage Helmet to gain the shocking lash - only need to outheal the shock damage then. Only...But without Saint's Armor you wont get unlimited misses... There probably is some better way to optimize this combo but I only discovered it yesterday so I haven't had time to test things through
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3 minutes ago, Boeroer said:
Right, was just doing wild brainstorming there without looking stuff up.
Hitting yourself with KotF is great if you have Rekvu's Scorched Cloak...Yeah it isn't bad but you really only go up by 1 or 2 hp per hit. It is better to have a constant stun effect. I am not even sure if the stun uses a separate roll or not and if it doesn't they you can regularly to a +200 accuracy stun which is enough for Mega Bosses.
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I actually still think there must be some way to safely use Avenging Storm but I can't figure out how I keep getting hit because as soon as the attack starts the combat log is absolutely flooded. I suspect it is a Fortitude attack some how related to the Stalking Cloak but I am not sure. It is possible if you stack Fort saves with Con and Mig (Helwalker) you will be able to safely use Avenging Storm.
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I would think the retaliation would strike back whoever did the attack and in this case that is you
also the AOE is viewed as a range attack and Outward Spikes is for melee attacks. I was originally trying to make a KotF build with a Ranger that would bounce from the AOE but I couldn't get that to work. It was annoying to keep hitting myself so I was looking for ways to prevent or reduce the damage (Pale Elf Armor/other fire AR) when I realized it was a Reflex attack and you could use the Saint's Armor to completely negate that. I then looked for on miss abilities and realized how crazy it would be for monks.
[help] two-handed / bomb build (solo)
in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Characters Builds, Strategies & the Unity Engine (Spoiler Warning!)
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Steel Garrote/Skald might be fun to abuse the disengagement attacks from Whispers of the Endless Paths. You can get Nomad's Brigandine early and later switch to Gipon Prudensco. Not sure if it would be viable solo though.