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  1. Those don't exist.

     

    It's like with the church in the dark ages, they either live in total secrecy or get burned on the stake.

     

    Seriously, I wonder if homosexuality is something considered evil in Jedi Code...

     

    Grey Jedi go both ways.

     

    Grey Jedi believe using the dark side is not inherently evil; what your intentions are during an act is what makes the difference between a good life and a bad one "good" being just and reasonable. Of course evil is ignorance not a higher power; evil/ignorance can be seen in unreasonable behaviour- vengeance is not justice it's self gratification.

  2. But if Mary Sue/Revan didn't have the "Natural leadership" Carth might have shot her.

    They did try to give her failings such as clumsiness; when helping the Twi'lek dancer on Taris, I found that embarrassing. Also general social ineptitude; "BUT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE" when the Genoharadan bounty hunter changes shape... Stupid name Genoharadan it's like Raven :dancing: Revan. "Are you hitting on me?" and various cornalogs of dork to Juhani, Carth, Bastila.... all of them really, and other characters not in the party. Reasonable responses for such dialog would be a slap in the face or mocking laughter. Revan only breaks from the Mary Sue archetype in TSL. It appears to me at least and I have been known too read to much into these things (Sadly) that she was not a natural leader at all; instead she had to manipulate the masses so her grand vision for the galaxy could be realized, which in the end failed causing her to.... sacrifice everything for the galaxy once.... crap more. Never mind that... um.

    Archetypes in fiction stem from the oldest traditions, from Gilgamesh to.... Harry Potter. Why would a game where you control the main character an all conquering hero be any different?

    I really want a main character that is a drooling moron who reacts badly to situations gets called a loser and is left behind.... Not one like Revan, that says it all so I don't have to give examples... more examples. :)

  3. It's fun torturing Mary Sues like Juhani and Carth.... He's such a cry baby, but I was a little disappointed he didn't react so much when Dustil gets killed, still fun though.

    And Juhani I'm a freak, an outcast my entire species has been wiped out and then you get the planet that was a complete cesspit destroyed burning all happy memories of my childhood. But you are Revan you saved me from slavery, I am so clingy my claws are like Velcro. It would be better if she did actually spit, hiss and cough fur balls.

     

    :) It's really quite disturbing just how much a Mary Sue Revan is, and then you get the fanfictions.... that... :(

  4. Well Tale, I understand where you're coming from.

     

    Perhaps, just to try something new, what they could do in KotOR III is make it that none of your party members are romantically interested in you, but you have the option to flirt with, to hit on any party member you want, but no matter what you do or say, you'll fail in an attempt to win their affection, simply because they don't feel the love for you that you do for them.

     

    There's realism in that idea, isn't there?

    That's a depressing view on love Architect, if no Jedi breed there will be none in the future. I'm tempted to give it the thumbs up.

  5. A person's life is worth 500 credits. Not that a bounty is normally that much because it ranges depending on the planet and other factors, but to make a new life costs 500 credits. It may be the cost of a hyper-space flight I don't know, and it isn't important why it's that much.... maybe it relates somehow to what they are worth.

     

    The planet of Tattooine is desert, but the Sand People have wicker baskets, how? They didn't buy them, could they grow them if they didn't use the evaporators? So how the hell can they have Banthas, they would eat the same amount as an elephant, wouldn't they? Illogical therefore unforgettable.

     

    Also, that apathy is death, worse than death, and "it behooves you to strike down one that you are familiar with for no other reason than to prove that you are superior" I think that's right, he might have said young one somewhere in that.

  6. Not only are you insulting Team Gizka without provocation, you are making yourself look like an ****.

     

    Oh the irony. When I want a worthless opinion from a loud mouthed know-nothing, I'll be sure to look you up though.

     

    They've been working on this since April of 05... it's over half way through 2007 now... how much longer do they expect people to wait? Seriously how much longer are you going to wait?

    Not many people know the meaning of irony. Edit: by that I mean you don't know the meaning of irony. I thought it might be a little obscure.

    *Downward pointing arrow* rofl.

  7. To answer your questions.

    I don't care much. Meaning; I don't care as much as people who constantly trawl internet gossip sites then post links to old stories. I do care but not with a frothy fervour that is unhealthy.

     

    Perhaps it would be hypocrisy if I spent ridiculous amounts of time and money on NWN2, which is unlikely since I have one game which cost approximately 69 dollars Australian, and haven't even completed it yet. How long I have been playing it is difficult to ascertain, hence I have played it for a bit.

     

    I wouldn't say I wasted any energy writing my previous post. You will have to clarify why you think I fit into the category of "sad loser" since you weren't insulted rather you put me in that box based on misinterpretation, and never really disagreed that WoW players are sad losers. I would understand if you are a WoW player and was insulted, but you said you aren't.

     

    On to the general trollish fire spitting... :sorcerer: impossible unless they have shamanistic powers, even so they would be casting greater or lesser blasting. Anyway, can I help it if they have bad taste in music?

    So really your post was as pointless as you think mine was.

  8. I can't compare or make any suggestions based on WOW because I'm not a sad loser who sits around on my ever widening behind listening to Scandinavians yelling about.... I don't know, probably how softly the snow crunches under foot.

    But I have been playing NWN2 for a... bit, and there are some things that Obsidian could take from that. First I don't care about consoles anymore because of NWN2's way of assigning spells to keys. Since the number of powers increased in Kotor 2 it's logical to assume there would be more in the third... or snots would say.... But I digress, I think assigning powers to keys is brilliant. It's so much easier to press a button and conjure my fiend, than cycling through with the mouse.

    I was a little younger than the normal age for Dungeons and Dragons freaks so I missed that in my youth. I remember talk of Bags of Holding, D12's and oddly shaped grey dice that for a four year old was just a pointy thing that looked really wiered, and cool. But the D&D system is the only way really, and Kotor3 if it is made (Don't care much) should draw more from it. But I don't know how multi classing would work for Jedi.... I already said there should be more classes of Jedi, and or branches of the order, such as the Jal Shey, and Makashi, so it could work.

    Maybe it would be too complex to change strength in the force to preparing powers for a day, but it could be a way of making the classes different and the game more difficult.

  9. :*

    But it's true the EU is full of silly plot holes. Fett jumping out of the Sarlack Pit, The Emperor's clones, Luke falling to the darkside.... all needed to continue the universe, because if the light triumphs there wouldn't be any enemies, so that would be the end of starwars. The alternative would be the Jedi continuously watching for the darkness to return. Which would get boring, more so. :thumbsup:

  10. Bears are more powerful creatures. To rely on on guns is weakness. From your logic one human could be more powerful than an entire country if he nukes them but that was BECAUSE OF THE NUKE. HE DIDN'T have the power to do that. If you were to ask a scientist however on which creature is more power he would tell you the bear. That's why we humans use guns against them because WE HUMANS ARE WEAK (NOT POWERFUL). To rely of technology is weakness. Take the gun away and go fight the bear as you are. Who wins the bear because the bear is a more powerful creature. If I got into a fight (puting weapons aside) with some kid I could beat him but it would be because of MY STRENGTH and skill with my OWN POWER. The one who wins the fight fairly will be the respected and more powerful one. A child can pull out a weapon and shoot you. That's not power. That shows his/her weakness in the fact that he/she had to resort to a gun.

     

    Look at it this way. A child could accidently press the botton on a trigger and kill someone. Who is more powerful though the child or the adult? Anyone can press a botton. If you were to be described through history and compared to braveheart as to which warriar is more powerful who would they say you cause you have a gun or braveheart? They would say braveheart. If I owned a death star and palpatine didn't I would still go down in history as less powerful cause anyone can press a botton. That is not power. I could not openly face palpatine I had to hide. That is a load of punk stuff. IT IS WEAKNESS to rely on others and it is weakness to rely on technology a mere child could do that and hey sh!t even a monkey could be trained to use a gun and kill like 20 people before it dies but it was NOT more powerful.

     

    I can understand what you are saying here-Humans are physically weaker than most species. Just about everything else that lives on the planet has some form of natural defence-claws, teeth, physical size and strength, poison/fangs, armour plates, good senses to detect threats and so on. In that regards you are quite correct, a human who attempts to have a one on one fight against a bear is going to die....unless said bear gets so excited at the thought of a free meal it has a heart attack. On a purely physical level we should never have managed to avoid being eaten on a daily basis....but we changed the rules.

     

    Human defences come from our intelligence, or given human history maybe I should say that our defence comes from the ability to invent and create tools. The tools that we can create provide us with the power to not only protect ourselves, but also to alter the enviroment we live in and control it to some degree. Control the enviroment and you also gain power as some species that would normally threaten you will not always be able (or want to) live there.

     

    It is not weakness to rely on technology as such, it is our strength and without it we wouldn't be here. While the word technology often brings up a mental image of cars, computers and cell phones it is worth noting that technology simply means tools. A simple rock used to hit someone with is a tool, its also a bit of technology, it allows you to hit something harder than you could with your bare hands.....although against something like a bear you would need one hell of a large rock. That is part of what a tool does-it allows you to do things that normally you would be unable to do, or do things better than you could do unaided. Using the internet I can talk to someone 6000 miles away, and I quite often do, something I could not manage by shouting. This is power, it is just a different type of power than almost all other species on the planet have.

     

    Of course while technology/tools are our greatest strength, they are also our greatest weakness when we rely on them so much we forget how to live without them. (I wonder how many people on this board would be able to go a month without using a computer or cell phone at all).

     

    Power always comes at a price however, and tools are no exception. The price of us getting power from tools is twofold;

     

    It can be too easy to get, and therefore misused or we fail to understand how dangerous using that tool can be-nuclear weapons being a prime example.

     

    They can be used by almost anyone. As you pointed out a child could pick up and use a gun, and a trawl through police reports will tell you that happens more than we'd like in some places. That is the duel nature of power from tools-if you can use it so could someone else, which is why the military guards its armouries so well and tries not to let on exactly how their latest equipment works.

     

    In simple terms whoever holds the tool has the power, as long as they choose to use that power. Having the power and using it are not the same thing. Just because I have a gun does not mean I have to use it....although a charging bear would tend to settle matters for most people...and even if I do decide to use it I don't have to shoot the bear, I could always fire into the air and hope the bear runs off at the noise. (If it doesn't I then have to hope I haven't just run out of bullets or the gun jambs, knowing my luck both would happen). Being able to choose how I use a tool involves being able to control it, and being able to control something means you have power over it. In the case of a monkey or baby with a gun the water is muddy here, since it could be argued that they are incapable of choosing to fire the gun and therefore have no real power as you said.(A monkey wouldn't know how to use a gun without being trained, in which case the monkey becomes a tool of the trainer. An untrained monkey, or a human baby, wouldn't be deliberatly firing the gun but doing so accidently, which again means they had no choice, therefore no control, therefore no power).

     

    You also said it was a weakness to rely on others, again there is a small amount of truth in that, but this is over shadowed by the fact that humans are pre-programed to work in groups and rely on each other. This is the second way we survived. A single human with a stone axe is unlikely to be able to tackle a bear. But a group of humans armed the same way will make short work of it. True, there is a good chance that at least some of the humans are going to get hurt or killed, unless the know exactly what they are doing, so from the prospective of those individuals this is not a great stratagy. But from the view point of the species working together allows them to handle situations where an individual would fail, or finish a task in a shorter space of time. From an invididuals view point groups are a good thing too. To start with instead of being a single target, you are just one of several potential targets-hence the odds of you being picked out by a potential predator are lower making you less likely to be attacked and, therefore, less likely to need to defend yourself. Even if you are attacked if the group has a strong bond (and human groups, or at least the smaller ones, tend to be very strong in this area) then you are more likely to have someone else turning up to help you defend yourself against an attacker.

     

    Anyway, the only part of this that is directly applicable to the thread is that about control and power. In order to have power over something you have to be able to choose to use that power-not for good or ill, just the ability to use it when you want to. Nilhus couldn't choose to use his power to drain life, he had to use his power to drain life-if he didn't he grew weaker, and as was mentioned in the game he would eventally have died regardless of what the Exile did-In fact he would have been dead even if the Exile had decided to stay away....That he had no control over his ability means that it did not make him powerful, in fact it means the opposite.

    Needed repeating.

  11. Am I the only one who finds this to be the height of internet entertainment?

    You're not alone.

     

    OPG,

    .... how difficult is it to understand the concept of slavery?

    If Nihilus was in control of his power (force Slurp) he would be the master of his power and since it's so.... powerful, (such eloquence) he would be the most powerful. :lol:

    However, he isn't, as has been explained countless times by Architect and Darth Mortis. You have ignored logic, which makes it difficult to explain in the simplest manner possible why Nihilus is weak. I wont bother with quotes, because you have this odd habit of thinking they're false even if it's an official source. Or that it's got lots of body piercing and a mohawk or something. So instead I will suggest you look at the conversations betwixt Exile and Kriea in regards to Nihilus.

     

    Here is my very brief explanation, on the off chance that this makes sense to you.

     

    Slavery is to be stripped of control.

    Nihilus doesn't control his power.

    It is the hunger that controls him.

    Therefore he is weak.

     

     

    There simple, and repetitive.

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