[Journalism and Bias in the Gaming Industry]

https://youtu.be/AhDPFJENqBc  my problem  its a interview over her views of feminism,  rape culture, mra wheres GG if you are saying its related to gg come out and openly say it , This gg interview where exacly? 

[Obsidian devs after the Limerick controversy..]

Let's just get something clear here because I don't seem to have seen anything mentioned yet.

 

There was no outcry about the limerick to Obsidian. One person sent one polite text suggesting that Obisidan look into the limerick as it *might* be seen as offensive by someone.

 

Obsidian, in turn, said "ok we'll look into it."

 

Then the GG crowd went on a crusade against censorship, which then got the Anti-GG Crowd arguing with them about how the only ones actually making a big deal out of it were GG and pointing out how it may be seen as offensive by some people.

 

While all that pointless internet noise was raging on, Obsidian contacting the backer and just said "hey some people have said they might find this offensive, would you be willing to change it?" The backer then said "sure."

 

At no point did Obsidian say "We're taking it down." They did what any business would do when someone raises a complaint or concern. They followed up on it, checked with the backer and everything was done willingly and without any pressure being put on Obsidian or the backer.

 

Meanwhile GG was raging away making all kinds of threats to the person who just posted a single tweet to Obsidian that didn't even demand that the limerick be taken down.

 

So why is this *still* an issue when the woman who complained has moved on and publicly said she's happy with how Obsidian handled the issue. Obsidian have moved on and said they're happy with how the issue played out. The backer has moved on because it's not that big a deal to them.

 

At no point was anyone censored. Censorship is when there is no consultation or discussion. The words are just removed and banned. That isn't what happened here.

 

Can we all just move on now?

 

Like most people did with the whole incident of the idiot with the stupid shirt.

 

I hope you are just uninformed , but I quite doubt it.

 

 

  The one person, the Killallmen often quoter you gallantly came, who started  rallied quite a lot of twitter supporters to her cause and was forwarded to a Obsidian employee by Ian Miles Cheong, a game journalist.  Soon there was a huge twitter pile up of people both for against the limerick remaining as it was. In no time insults, anger, and maybe threats ( I haven't seen one of these and I don't believe pure hearsay or what pretends is journalism) were traded by both sides and a huge PR mess was created. Obsidian tried and mostly succeeded in making the outcry diminished, but there quite a lot of people unhappy on both sides of the issue since the limerick was changed. And some of the original complainers dislike the joke put in its place.

 

 

   But giving in to the eternally outraged, offended crowd of which I'm guessing you are part of  is always a bad precedent since I consider them a starving monster who always more and feel entitled to more of the same and very likely will do so again. And deny as much as you want, but you are defending a very pro censorship group.

[Obsidian devs after the Limerick controversy..]

 

That the Limerick was a issue at all is part my problem. But creating  outrage to shout at Obsidian for caving to outrage is kind of nuts, its throwing gasoline to stop the fire. Fanatism for any cause is a mind and reason killer.

 

      I just belive this anything is potentialy offensive because its perception judgement based on cultural and personal values. If none can put out  potentially offensive content no one can create any content at all.

 

     And you cant preach tolerance while enforcing the opposite of it. Check what you are really  doing before throwing stones at someone else.

 

What if I'm a fanatic for reason?

 

 

 Anything that makes you blind for other possible interpretation and lines of reasoning. Fanatism leads to the belief that you and those who share that same belief  are always correct and should makes everyone else a beliver or punish them for their wrongness.

[Obsidian devs after the Limerick controversy..]

That the Limerick was a issue at all is part my problem. But creating  outrage to shout at Obsidian for caving to outrage is kind of nuts, its throwing gasoline to stop the fire. Fanatism for any cause is a mind and reason killer.

 

      I just belive this anything is potentialy offensive because its perception judgement based on cultural and personal values. If none can put out  potentially offensive content no one can create any content at all.

 

     And you cant preach tolerance while enforcing the opposite of it. Check what you are really  doing before throwing stones at someone else.

[Obsidian devs after the Limerick controversy..]

You dont have to be of certain gender or race to have an opinion nor have friends of  in the lbgt comunity to validate them. I can and will use my own critical thinking and reason. Its written in a limerick in a game it can be easily ignored and does not incite viloence against any group or gender, nor there is explict trans description on it, you can maybe imply but only as one possible explanation of many. To me this whole incident only shows how intolerant some outrage mobs can be in the name of imposing  their views.    

[Obsidian devs after the Limerick controversy..]

The Limerick isnt transphobic. People should look for worse things to be offended by. Im less bothered by the change since Firedorn approved it and its not Obsidian created content. But catering to people who are forever offended as minimaly as it may seem only entices them to come back for more.

 

 They are a censorship happy bunch and will keep looking for more ways  to supress free expression and speech, they treat their alleged causes with religious fervor and any who  stands in the way is demonized as a opressor. 

[Obsidian devs after the Limerick controversy..]

Just dont let people derail the discussion by continous insult throwing , some have done so purposefully to force the closing of discussion.

[You Know Who Else Hates Freedom?]

Less histerical hyperbole please. I disagree with the change but Firedorn made the joke agreed with it. Its not content Obsidian created. 

 

 Still think the perpetually  outraged will keep coming for more and we may see this as tame. But lets not become another outrage mob.

[So is this game actually good?]

Liking it and probably will replay it the moment i finish it. 

[Obsidian devs after the Limerick controversy..]

Im against giving the perpetually outrage ground to demand change at any perceived sligth. They complained of the joke replacement too. And they will keep coming for more.