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Also to be fair, Maisie Williams is naturally right-handed, so you have to give her props for developing her left hand over the years playing Arya.



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I don't give her any credit outside of she is a kid. She is not believeable in this 'bad ass  role'. It is not believeable that she can go toe to toe with Brienne striaght up. Use one of her 'facs' to sneak up on her and murder her from behind? Sure. Straight up melee? No way. And, Williams fails in making me believe it. That is poor acting because some child actors have  made it believeable that they can go toe to toe with adults but not her not this time. Pure fan servicing. Pure garbage.



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Guys it shouldnt be difficult to imagine Arya defeating someone like Brienne or most people in one on one combat. She was trained at the House of the Faceless Man, she has skills that are not normal and this makes her deadly to most people 

 

Physics work in Westeros pretty much like they do here. In the books as well as in the show, so there's that. There's no way Arya can block a blow from Brienne with a regular sword - let alone with Needle, in the same way you couldn't actively block a car running you over.

 

But that's a fairly common problem in movies and shows. There's often a 45 kilogram tiny woman dual wielding Desert Eagles or going toe to toe in a martial arts fight with enemies twice their mass at comparative skill levels and coming out on top. It's not that smaller, more agile fighters wouldn't be able to win, just not in the way shown on screen - unless that's the whole point, like Bronn vs. Ser Vardis back in Season 1 - although their builds were much more similar than Arya and Brienne, obviously.

 

So Volo is right after a fashion. Arya's still awesome and a badass but Volo can't jump over his shadow and all that... ;)



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Yeah she doesn't look lethal at all.

 

Also what was the cave painting scene for. Like we need more foreboding about the bloody ice zombies at this point. 

 

Crippled Stark is boring as hell. Please no more flashbacks or flash-forwards, or flash-sideways. 



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Yeah she doesn't look lethal at all.

 

Also what was the cave painting scene for. Like we need more foreboding about the bloody ice zombies at this point. 

 

Is that a rhetoric question? Because the "we have to stand together or all is lost" symbolism was a bit on the nose and all. *shrug*

 

I wonder what would have happened if the humans in those cave painting knew that the CotF created the White Wankers in the first place.



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Yeah she doesn't look lethal at all.

 

Also what was the cave painting scene for. Like we need more foreboding about the bloody ice zombies at this point. 

 

Is that a rhetoric question? Because the "we have to stand together or all is lost" symbolism was a bit on the nose and all. *shrug*

 

I wonder what would have happened if the humans in those cave painting knew that the CotF created the White Wankers in the first place.

 

Guys she doesnt look lethal because she is a 20 young women with a babyface....she is cute and its hard to change her to the point where now she becomes intimidating ? But in the books her appearance would be different and more lethal 

 

Also if we going debate the point around physics I would say we have no idea what she is capable of based on the narrative in the books. 

 

I will defer to the books on what she can or cant do :)


Edited by BruceVC, 11 August 2017 - 03:59 PM.


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Just sayin', it's waaaay past just getting on with the ice zombie progression.  I mean, seasonal differences in westeros vis a vis real earth notwithstanding winter has been comming for 6 and a half years.

 

They needed a scene where Daenerys starts to get it, the majestic music was completely off the mark, it was like they just failed to create suspense or Epos, or whatever they were going for. 



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Why care so much about realism in a show about dominant women and dragons?

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Well, the dragon looks like it could kick ass. 



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Why care so much about realism in a show about dominant women and dragons?

 

It's not about realism in the show vs. real life but about realism in terms of internal consistency, and that's been lacking this season, due to a number of factors.



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To be fair the stunt work is not that stellar in any of the major fights. 



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To be fair the stunt work is not that stellar in any of the major fights.

Yeah. Fights/battles have always seemed like an afterthought/cheap/plot device.

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Why care so much about realism in a show about dominant women and dragons?

 

It's not about realism in the show vs. real life but about realism in terms of internal consistency, and that's been lacking this season, due to a number of factors.

 

 

Yep, verisimilitude. To be honest it's lacked whenever they've either not had book material or deviated significantly from it so not just this season. I can criticise George Martin for being a pedestrian writer, but his writing is probably the best for internal consistency I've seen (unlike, say, Malazan) so when they've followed his stuff they haven't had to worry about consistency. If you actually spend any time thinking about some of the distances and timings involved in just the battles the last seasons you find that people literally have to teleport for it to make internal sense eg Euron this and Littlefinger last.


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I heard the expression once - "if you're writing about dragons, you better get the horses right". You can go crazy with the fantasy elements, but anything pertaining or relating to reality, better be as close to it as possible (or at least explained properly)

 

If you don't, then all rules might as well be out the window - why can't Cercei fly when she wants to? It's not a show about realism after all.


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Not buying the physics nor tactics, so I can't take your flying dragons seriously.

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We are never going to see anything like this again. It's all going to be CGI 

 

 

 


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Physics work in Westeros pretty much like they do here. In the books as well as in the show, so there's that. There's no way Arya can block a blow from Brienne with a regular sword - let alone with Needle, in the same way you couldn't actively block a car running you over.
 


I'll have to go back and rewatch the screne but wasn't Ayra doing more redirecting and dodging than blocking?

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First time back watching GoT since 2015, season 5 and it feels like I've barely missed a thing. Thanks to a dredging plot, I can just finish it from here.

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 Dany and Arya continue to be the bane of this show. Why don't they get it over with, and just have Arrya murder Sansa and have it be  a 'deserved kill'.  Neither one of these are heroes yet that is what the show wants us to believe. Sickening. It is sad that these two are making m cheer CLEAR villains like Littlefinger and Cersei over them. LMAO

 

Also, the one thing this show has been consistent about is that Arya has ALWAYS hated her sister. And, not 'sisterly rivalry' style hate but pure hate. Arya whines about Sansa 'looking down on others' but that is exactly what Arya has ALWAYS done.  Plus, her first reaction to people saying not 100% perfectly positive stuff about her boyfriend Jon Snow is 'off with their heads'. COME ON. How much more evil, insane, and satanical can you be.


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Anyone else feel like this entire season of Game of Thrones is just one really long 'Last time on Game of Thrones...'? So many cutaways and the pace of the show has like quadrupled compared to previous seasons.

Not necessarily complaining because it was slow as hell for a while there, but it just feels a little weird. 






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