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Five man party ? idk... let's discuss


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A party of 5 is obviously less powerful than a party of 6, which is less powerful than a party of 7, which is less powerful than a party of 8, which is less powerful than aprty of 9, which is...................................................................................................................................., which is less powerful than a standard army.

 

There's more to it than just numbers. Look up combined arms tactics some time. The whole can be stronger than the sum of its parts. Larger numbers allow more sophisticated tactics, which makes combat more interesting... and challenging.



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" I am obviously unhappy that the game has already predetermined exactly who is going to be in my party first playthrough."

 

It hasn't, only your mental compulsions.

 

Don't you know? Obsidian put a gun to his head and told him how to role his opening party ;)

 

Look, I do sympathize with the guys who just want to roll MOAR characters, but look on the bright-side: replay value! 



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A party of 5 is obviously less powerful than a party of 6, which is less powerful than a party of 7, which is less powerful than a party of 8, which is less powerful than aprty of 9, which is...................................................................................................................................., which is less powerful than a standard army.

 

There's more to it than just numbers. Look up combined arms tactics some time. The whole can be stronger than the sum of its parts. Larger numbers allow more sophisticated tactics, which makes combat more interesting... and challenging.

 

I agree. But I am not sure it applies to PoE as it is. The positioning, movement and tactics has never really been a big part of this genre (and I wish it would be.) In the end it is all about rolls, statistic and exploiting weaknesses of your opponents, while fortyfing your defences against attacks of your enemies. There is little opportunity for maneuvering, outthinking enemies or winning against the odds. Buffup/focus DPS/healers/tanks. That is pretty much all there is to it. I just don't see how one character less will change it, except they might be one less DPS to kill on enemy team, or less enemies so one tank can lock them up instead of two. That's really it.



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A party of 5 is obviously less powerful than a party of 6, which is less powerful than a party of 7, which is less powerful than a party of 8, which is less powerful than aprty of 9, which is...................................................................................................................................., which is less powerful than a standard army.

 

and your point is? so what should be the magic number for a standard army then? based on older games the standard number has always been 6. so what makes 5 a better number and not 4, or 3 or 2 or 1? ;)



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A party of 5 is obviously less powerful than a party of 6, which is less powerful than a party of 7, which is less powerful than a party of 8, which is less powerful than aprty of 9, which is...................................................................................................................................., which is less powerful than a standard army.

 

and your point is? so what should be the magic number for a standard army then? based on older games the standard number has always been 6. so what makes 5 a better number and not 4, or 3 or 2 or 1? ;)

 

My point is that there is no magic number for best party number. Many people here say that 5 will be worst than 6 because Pillars 1 was playd with 6. But Deadfire is designed around 5 so I believe it won't matter. And at the end, we can't talk about it untill we playtest it.

There is no magic party number; only good and bad game design.


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Lol, this thread goes full non-sense.  :facepalm:

 

It's 5 for now, will probably end up being 5.

That's it, until BĂȘta Feedbacks. Y'all should deal with it...


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Lol, this thread goes full non-sense.  :facepalm:

 

It's 5 for now, will probably end up being 5.

That's it, until BĂȘta Feedbacks. Y'all should deal with it...

Don't be so cold. Peoples' lives depend on that :p


Edited by Sedrefilos, Yesterday, 11:35 AM.


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Who would win?

 

Party of 6 on their first adventure vs Party of 5 on their second adventure?



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If you invited 5 friends to your house, would you call that a party? A deep philosophical question.


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If you invited 5 friends to your house, would you call that a party? A deep philosophical question.


As a matter of fact 5 is my preferred party size. 6 or more and people start splitting into groups and it kills me if two conversations are happening and I can't be part of both...
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If you invited 5 friends to your house, would you call that a party? A deep philosophical question.

 

Excellent point. Just inviting 5 friends over doesn't make it a party. You need food, drinks and babes. Which tells me that it's not the number that's important, it's the entertainment. 


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