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which would be fine but we are speaking in the context o' the deadfire development, wherein the narrative is gonna take place, in large part, through character development, including advancing o' the watcher's personal story, which is gonna require a heavy dose o' dialogue to be communicated. if the deadfire narrative were achieved through lore dumps and reading in-game books detailing the histories o' the realms, then josh's preference for the silmarillion would be other than a handicap. not much compelling dialogue in the silmarillion, eh?  is not as if the silmarillion is intrinsic bad, at least no more than is polka music. unfortunately, tolkien's work, unpublished during his lifetime, is not the best example o' what the deadfire writers is gonna try and achieve.

 

HA! Good Fun!

 

Pallegina was in no way worse than the other characters. So what's the problem?

 

if you say so. go and review the numerous favorite companion threads for poe. josh's contribution were not near top o' the list.  yeah, pallegina weren't at the top o' the most hated companion threads neither, but sadly all such reveals were nobody cared 'nuff bout pallegina to like or hate her.  she were flat and monotonous. 

 

 

josh has been writing variations o' yxunomei for many years. motivations is different, but characters is spooky similar... with the possible exception o' bishop, who weren't developed near enough for us to genuine applaud or condemn.

 

HA! Good Fun!

 

ps so is clear, Gromnir believes josh is an excellent game developer/designer.  mr. sawyer is knowledgeable 'bout rule systems and game mechanics. am appreciating how josh is not one o' the grognards who believes in fixed proper and essential elements o' game design, but is more interested in providing the player with an entertaining and enjoyable experience.  am even ok with josh fixation with lore. such ocd 'bout details o' the history o' a setting may add depth to a game. in general, he gets it.

 

even so, while am appreciative o' josh contributions to games, am (and will continue to be) critical o' his writing efforts.  would be more shocking (implausible so) if josh were great at every aspect o' game design.  not much o' a criticism to note his talents do not extend to writing.  


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 yeah, pallegina weren't at the top o' the most hated companion threads neither, but sadly all such reveals were nobody cared 'nuff bout pallegina to like or hate her.  she were flat and monotonous. 

 

Well i really like her. Her voice, lines, character... Great, really. Her line then you meet the Kraken is probably my favorite in the entire game in term of epicness 
But then again i really hated Grieving Mother so i am probably not representative of the most players. Still weird to hear Pallegina was bad or boring. She probably in my top 3 favorites.


Edited by Dopsim, 13 September 2017 - 10:10 AM.


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 yeah, pallegina weren't at the top o' the most hated companion threads neither, but sadly all such reveals were nobody cared 'nuff bout pallegina to like or hate her.  she were flat and monotonous. 

 

Well i really like her. Her voice, lines, character... Great, really. Her line then you meet the Kraken is probably my favorite in the entire game in term of epicness 
But then again i really hated Grieving Mother so i am probably not representative of the most players. Still weird to hear Pallegina was bad or boring. She probably in my top 3 favorites.

 

When all said and done, she is not in my top 5ve, but she was the first character I got attatched to. Her dilemma was more relatable and immediate than most of the companions. I love her confrontation with Hylea. 

 

Certainly PoE had an issue with short term storytelling. Individual "setpieces" were rarely engaging. While it is something, which hopefully will be improved in Deadfire it seems more like a time constraint than anything else. Good story should always start with a clear end goal and the "big picture" of PoE was phenomenal. It just lacked polish to make the smaller encounters really shine. 


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I reckon she'd scrape into my Pillars top 5 following Sagani, Hiravias, Edér and (yes) Durance (because I don't believe a character has to be likable to be compelling). As with Wormerine I found her relatable, I enjoyed her points of view as well as the theme to her quest, and I did love her confrontation with Hylea as well. Overall I can safely say I liked her, as I did most characters in the game really.


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there were only 8 poe joinable companions, so...

 

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there were only 8 poe joinable companions, so...

 

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Well, yeah, in general I felt very positively about the companion roster so her being middle-of-the-pack is still fine by me. I was also considering the White March companions in my list, mind.



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there were only 8 poe joinable companions, so...

 

HA! Good Fun!

Well, yeah, in general I felt very positively about the companion roster so her being middle-of-the-pack is still fine by me. I was also considering the White March companions in my list, mind.

 

 

Ye there are 11 companions so i get you. :)


Edited by draego, 13 September 2017 - 01:13 PM.

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not sure if folks is attempting humor or not.  smiley faces n' such makes ambiguous. the expansion companions clear got less development resources and were less integrated into the main plot line(s).  hardly seems fair to place all joinable npcs in the same pool when comparing quality. folks is padding numbers with tacked on expansion companions simple to make a point? or perhaps is sarcasm.

 

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not sure if folks is attempting humor or not.  smiley faces n' such makes ambiguous. the expansion companions clear got less development resources and were less integrated into the main plot line(s).  hardly seems fair to place all joinable npcs in the same pool when comparing quality. folks is padding numbers with tacked on expansion companions simple to make a point? or perhaps is sarcasm.

 

HA! Good Fun!

You're putting way too much attention on an element that is pretty irrelevant. It doesn't matter whether we include or leave out the expansions' companions, or whether Pallegina falls in our top 5 of 8 or not. Personally what I meant with it was that I liked her, and generally liked the companions in Pillars. I guess it's Wormerine's top 5 remark that prompted me to respond with my own. There's not much more to it.


Edited by algroth, 13 September 2017 - 02:02 PM.


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not sure if folks is attempting humor or not.  smiley faces n' such makes ambiguous. the expansion companions clear got less development resources and were less integrated into the main plot line(s).  hardly seems fair to place all joinable npcs in the same pool when comparing quality. folks is padding numbers with tacked on expansion companions simple to make a point? or perhaps is sarcasm.

 

HA! Good Fun!

You're putting way too much attention on an element that is pretty irrelevant. It doesn't matter whether we include or leave out the expansions' companions, or whether Pallegina falls in our top 5 of 8 or not. Personally what I meant with it was that I liked her, and generally liked the companions in Pillars. I guess it's Wormerine's top 5 remark that prompted me to respond with my own. There's not much more to it.

 

then why play games with the numbers? we pointed out how there were only 8 companions. you are the person who observed you were including the expansion companions in your tally.  if numbers were irrelevant from the start, why make a point o' including expansion joinables? 

 

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is genuine baffling responding to some folks.

 

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not sure if folks is attempting humor or not.  smiley faces n' such makes ambiguous. the expansion companions clear got less development resources and were less integrated into the main plot line(s).  hardly seems fair to place all joinable npcs in the same pool when comparing quality. folks is padding numbers with tacked on expansion companions simple to make a point? or perhaps is sarcasm.

 

HA! Good Fun!

You're putting way too much attention on an element that is pretty irrelevant. It doesn't matter whether we include or leave out the expansions' companions, or whether Pallegina falls in our top 5 of 8 or not. Personally what I meant with it was that I liked her, and generally liked the companions in Pillars. I guess it's Wormerine's top 5 remark that prompted me to respond with my own. There's not much more to it.

 

then why play games with the numbers? we pointed out how there were only 8 companions. you are the person who observed you were including the expansion companions in your tally.  if numbers were irrelevant from the start, why make a point o' including expansion joinables? 

 

...

 

is genuine baffling responding to some folks.

 

HA! Good Fun!

 

 

Jeez, does it even matter? It's genuinely baffling to see what will trigger some folks too.


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not sure if folks is attempting humor or not.  smiley faces n' such makes ambiguous. the expansion companions clear got less development resources and were less integrated into the main plot line(s).  hardly seems fair to place all joinable npcs in the same pool when comparing quality. folks is padding numbers with tacked on expansion companions simple to make a point? or perhaps is sarcasm.

 

HA! Good Fun!

You're putting way too much attention on an element that is pretty irrelevant. It doesn't matter whether we include or leave out the expansions' companions, or whether Pallegina falls in our top 5 of 8 or not. Personally what I meant with it was that I liked her, and generally liked the companions in Pillars. I guess it's Wormerine's top 5 remark that prompted me to respond with my own. There's not much more to it.

 

then why play games with the numbers? we pointed out how there were only 8 companions. you are the person who observed you were including the expansion companions in your tally.  if numbers were irrelevant from the start, why make a point o' including expansion joinables? 

 

...

 

is genuine baffling responding to some folks.

 

HA! Good Fun!

 

 

It's genuinely baffling to see what will trigger some folks too.

 

dear lord.  in 2017, somebody using trigger/microaggression vernacular is pretty much akin to godwin's law violations, yes? predictable  exceeding point o' exhaustion... once again.

 

HA!  Good Fun!

 

ps the sensitivity o' some folks is what baffles us.  is disappointing how low a tolerance level for any kinda disagreement posters have these days.


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not sure if folks is attempting humor or not.  smiley faces n' such makes ambiguous. the expansion companions clear got less development resources and were less integrated into the main plot line(s).  hardly seems fair to place all joinable npcs in the same pool when comparing quality. folks is padding numbers with tacked on expansion companions simple to make a point? or perhaps is sarcasm.

 

HA! Good Fun!

You're putting way too much attention on an element that is pretty irrelevant. It doesn't matter whether we include or leave out the expansions' companions, or whether Pallegina falls in our top 5 of 8 or not. Personally what I meant with it was that I liked her, and generally liked the companions in Pillars. I guess it's Wormerine's top 5 remark that prompted me to respond with my own. There's not much more to it.

 

then why play games with the numbers? we pointed out how there were only 8 companions. you are the person who observed you were including the expansion companions in your tally.  if numbers were irrelevant from the start, why make a point o' including expansion joinables? 

 

...

 

is genuine baffling responding to some folks.

 

HA! Good Fun!

 

 

It's genuinely baffling to see what will trigger some folks too.

 

dear lord.  in 2017, somebody using trigger/microaggression vernacular is pretty much akin to godwin's law violations, yes? predictable  exceeding point o' exhaustion... once again.

 

HA!  Good Fun!

 

I have no other way to describe how badly you're getting your knickers in a twist about what was an innocuous expression. If it bothers you so much, then I'll take it back. Sorry, I didn't think about how I phrased my liking of a certain character. I'm dropping this now, bye.


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The heck are you microtriggering about gromnir? Or at least that's what algoroth is saying. To be honest, I'm not sure what you two are arguing about atm anyway, Palleginas rating? And some wierd random derail over a smiliey? *is a little confused*


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The heck are you microtriggering about gromnir? Or at least that's what algoroth is saying. To be honest, I'm not sure what you two are arguing about atm anyway, Palleginas rating? And some wierd random derail over a smiliey? *is a little confused*

Dunno. It's really no big deal - we can go back to discussing Josh's tweets and teasers.


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https://twitter.com/...709328211165184

That's interesting. Pork is a food item

Alternately-- and I really hope this isn't the case-- it could mean that [shudder] prostitute bonuses haven't been left to rot in the dustbin besides the gold-named NPCs, and someone on the team is getting "clever" with placeholder names. 

 

EDIT:  OK, it's food.  Bullet dodged... for now.


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You know what ?

 

[Speculation On] : After Pre-Alpha took an end in August, leading to Alpha (AKA - Polishing Stage of Production)...

 

After all the Teasing Tweets about the Next Update. All the OBS Crew comments (Mikey & Aarik mainly)...

About how it's gonna be Glorious (Multi/Sub Classes Topic Update, surely will be great in itself)...

The Extra Weeks, taken to make it even more Great, was : "Worth It. Trust Us."

 

Don't you get somekinda feeling that : Like "Winter Is Coming"... The Backer Beta is Coming ?

 

I'm conciously being very optimistic here, but I can't help getting the feel that, the "Extra Spicy Stuff" promised that we'll get...

Might end up being related, in some form or another, to the Backer Beta... Or not Ahah !  :grin:

 

(Target Date they're aiming at ? Exact Release Date ?...)

We'll have to wait, but... Man, I can't wait to put my hands on this Game !  :banghead:


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The last I've heard of any sort of release date is 1st quarter of 2018 with Josh Sawyer wanting to aim for March.



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The Full Game Release Date yeah,

But the Backer Beta Release is what I'm talking about, & to me, it seems to be not so far away from where we are now...






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