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So, uh... who is Ydwin and why do people want her as a full companion so badly? This is greatly confusing to me.


Currently a sidekick, a corpse-obsessed female animancer crime observer. Eoras answer to Bones.

Edited by Katarack21, 29 April 2017 - 03:20 PM.


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So, uh... who is Ydwin and why do people want her as a full companion so badly? This is greatly confusing to me.

Waifu bait.
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So, uh... who is Ydwin and why do people want her as a full companion so badly? This is greatly confusing to me.

 

Female Harry Potter.



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So, uh... who is Ydwin and why do people want her as a full companion so badly? This is greatly confusing to me.

Because all the kids think that "deeper companion relationships" = Japanese dating sim and therefore assume that she will be their waifu. That is the only reason.

Edited by Achilles, 29 April 2017 - 05:27 PM.

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So, uh... who is Ydwin and why do people want her as a full companion so badly? This is greatly confusing to me.

 

Because she kind of looks like an anime character I guess?

 

As for who, she's one of the 'sidekick' companions (which exists as a way to get around the slightly smaller party size), I'll try to find the Fig update that mentions her.

 

https://www.fig.co/c...ate=273#updates

 

And yeah, she's Eoras answer to the coroners and investigators in crime dramas, and RL ones.


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From Josh' Frog Helms Fan Club (https://twitter.com/jesawyer):

"Olá.

If we don’t hit the stretch goal by 5pm PDT today, she will be a sidekick in Deadfire.  It would be possible for her (or Rekke, etc.) to become a companion in an expansion, but not in the core game.  The new features we’re adding for companions increase the amount of work we need to do per companion by about 50%.  We’re fully scheduled for companion writing through the rest of the project just with the core 7."

 

God, just leave them out of the main game and introduce them completely in the expansion... This is a mess.

 

 

Maybe for you.  I personally glad they're doing the sidekick thing since I like  having a variety of characters to choose from.


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So, uh... who is Ydwin and why do people want her as a full companion so badly? This is greatly confusing to me.

Because all the kids think that "deeper companion relationships" = Japanese dating sim and therefore assume that she will be their waifu. That is the only reason.

This. I just can't stretch enough how much Obsidian dropped the ball with that character art. The moment I saw that 'is Ydwin yandere or tsundere?' thread pop up on this forum it was obvious that certain people had gotten way too enthusiastic about the anime like qualities of the character. (And its potential dateability.) I really wished that they wouldn't have crossed over to an anime style when designing the concept art of this character, or the overall character's description: so uninspiring and bland. I feel it was really out of place as I can't see animé tropes, especially of the simplistic 'is Ydwin yandere or tsundere?' kind mix well with PoE's bleak and grim setting. Rather, I hope that Obsidian will keep developing more complex, human like characters as they did in PoE 1. In the end, I trust Obsidian to do a good job in character development, but actually hope that this character doesn't get developed into a full companion and someone else takes her place instead.

Edited by gogocactus, 29 April 2017 - 10:22 PM.

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When they introduced the sidekicks on the campaign they said that were not final and would probably change. If she (and maybe Rekke??) will be a full companion at some point, it wouldn't be better if they are just added in the expansion and on the base game are replaced with other sidekicks? that would solve the weirdness of being "upgraded" and instead of replacing a sidekick to add a full companion there would be the sidekicks and the added full companion. I mean, i don't see a problem with this solution, please Mr. Obsidian, do this.


Edited by Piero, 29 April 2017 - 10:37 PM.

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she is forever a side character :(



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When they introduced the sidekicks on the campaign they said that were not final and would probably change. If she (and maybe Rekke??) will be a full companion at some point, it wouldn't be better if they are just added in the expansion and on the base game are replaced with other sidekicks? that would solve the weirdness of being "upgraded" and instead of replacing a sidekick to add a full companion there would be the sidekicks and the added full companion. I mean, i don't see a problem with this solution, please Mr. Obsidian, do this.

 

I would be more than fine with this. Whatever net's them the best narrative design for the characters I say.



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So, uh... who is Ydwin and why do people want her as a full companion so badly? This is greatly confusing to me.

A sidekick. And there is a particular person who wants her weirdly badly; I don't know if there are that many who care.


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Eh. I don't want a White March again. I hope they'll go for a sequel-expansion this time. Unless the game needs fixing and th expansion is the fix (like Pillars 1). Though I hope not.


There going to have expansions not a sequel expansion. This is there business model that worked well the first time. But yeah I agree with you

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When they introduced the sidekicks on the campaign they said that were not final and would probably change. If she (and maybe Rekke??) will be a full companion at some point, it wouldn't be better if they are just added in the expansion and on the base game are replaced with other sidekicks? that would solve the weirdness of being "upgraded" and instead of replacing a sidekick to add a full companion there would be the sidekicks and the added full companion. I mean, i don't see a problem with this solution, please Mr. Obsidian, do this.

Here is the thing, people are getting too excited over it.

In the original Eternity Kickstarter Forton was advertised as one of the original companions.  He is on the key art, the box art, the mousepad, etc etc.  What happened to him?  Name change, slight art change, and ended up as an expansion character.  Let's not even get into what they did to poor poor Cadegund.

 

Just because someone is being touted as a character or sidekick in the kickstarter doesn't mean they will actually make the game, or that their appearance in the game won't be different.

 

I am confident Obsidian knows how dumb it would be to make a side kick magically become a full companion in the expansion.  If they choose to make a currently advertised sidekick into a full on companion in the expansion I have no doubts that they will vanish from the sidekick list.


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Let's not even get into what they did to poor poor Cadegund.

Whatever they did must have involved one hell of an ugly stick to end up like this!

Durance-portrait.jpg?version=8ad8c27801a


Edited by FlintlockJazz, 30 April 2017 - 05:27 AM.

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Right, so it's an overreaction that kind of snowballed, like it so often happens. With a side of "don't get anime in my fantasy!" it seems.


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I don't really care whether she becomes a companion or stays a sidekick or not. Though it does seem like she'd be useful, at least thematically, for quests or situations that involve crime and crime scene investigation, which I really doubt there will be many of. They kind of pigeonholed her with the background description.


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Ydwin should have been in the first game. While the fact I don't really like the GM is one factor, the lack of an animancer companion where animancy is a major issue to the setting and plot was a misstep, instead we get our views on animancy from the asylum, the Dozens, two companions opposed (Aloth and Durance), and two that weakly support it (Kana and Pallengia). Didn't have to be a pale elf goth girl, but some sort of animancer companion would have been great to be another detailed perspectove on animancy.
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There is definitely an expansion. You can buy it as an add on already.

Whoot?! How did I missed that? They put it in high reward but never talked about it at Q&A/updates? :blink:

 

There was a $20 early bird DLC addon added later on in the campain due to popular demand. They don't know what it is, but you will get all the post launch expansions.



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Eh. I don't want a White March again. I hope they'll go for a sequel-expansion this time. Unless the game needs fixing and th expansion is the fix (like Pillars 1). Though I hope not.

I think I agree, but it depends. The "inside" expansions can work well (Heart of Stone for Witcher 3) but it has to do several things to work properly - don't distrupt main game balance, give the player reason to leave the main story for multiple hours to pursue sidequest, and feel like a part of the main story rather than its own complete thing.

I like White Match a lot, but it was weird to return back to Dyrwood after doing it (wait, what was I doing again?)

 

However, the open world nature of PoE2 and supposed openes of exploration might create a nice for extra content (like monster hunting ;-) ;-)


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So, uh... who is Ydwin and why do people want her as a full companion so badly? This is greatly confusing to me.

Because all the kids think that "deeper companion relationships" = Japanese dating sim and therefore assume that she will be their waifu. That is the only reason.

This. I just can't stretch enough how much Obsidian dropped the ball with that character art. The moment I saw that 'is Ydwin yandere or tsundere?' thread pop up on this forum it was obvious that certain people had gotten way too enthusiastic about the anime like qualities of the character. (And its potential dateability.) I really wished that they wouldn't have crossed over to an anime style when designing the concept art of this character, or the overall character's description: so uninspiring and bland. I feel it was really out of place as I can't see animé tropes, especially of the simplistic 'is Ydwin yandere or tsundere?' kind mix well with PoE's bleak and grim setting. Rather, I hope that Obsidian will keep developing more complex, human like characters as they did in PoE 1. In the end, I trust Obsidian to do a good job in character development, but actually hope that this character doesn't get developed into a full companion and someone else takes her place instead.

 

It is just a character concept and Obsidian are really good in making those "boring/I have seen it before" characters more than they seemed. I do agree that the character did seem to stand out from the crowd. That said, nothing wrong with a sexy character, and I having an animancer in a team might bring an interesting perspective. Hopefully, sidekicks will still have plenty to say.


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