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Poll: Fractions in Deadfire (36 member(s) have cast votes)

What fraction will you choose?

  1. Royal Deadfire Company (5 votes [10.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.64%

  2. Vailian Trading Company (13 votes [27.66%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.66%

  3. Principi (10 votes [21.28%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.28%

  4. Huana (5 votes [10.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.64%

  5. No fraction - I'm a dissident (14 votes [29.79%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 29.79%

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For me it will be clearly RDC, maybe with mere influence on Príncipi.

"best defense is a good offense" sounds like a good tactic :)

 

I've never liked Vailians.

Huana are like the dozens - bunch of plebs.

 

What about you?

 


Edited by Nail, 12 April 2017 - 06:57 AM.

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Principi sen Patrena

That would be my first choice, coz I'm a Vailian dissident ffs.

 

No faction AKA the Yes Man

Again, because I'm a dissident, that's why. You should probably add this option to the poll.

 

Vailian Trading Company

Tempting, because I'm a Vailian with a knack for shifty trading and style

 

Royal Deadfire Company + Huana

My dissident pc doesn't like them royalties very much, but who knows what time will bring


Edited by Messier-31, 12 April 2017 - 05:07 AM.


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No faction AKA the Yes Man

Again, because I'm a dissident, that's why. You should probably add this option to the poll.

 

Added this option.

Made multiple choices.


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For those who missed the info:

Update #28 - Factions of the Deadfire, Part I

Update #29 - Factions of the Deadfire, Part II

 

Royal Deadfire Company

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(Abbreviated as RDC in some text locations)

The Royal Deadfire Company is based in the aumaua nation of Rauatai but have expanded their empire's reach to their ancestral homeland in the Deadfire Archipelago. While they are interested in the harvest of precious resources from the region, the RDC have a long-term goal of conquering the archipelago and making it an extension of their empire. The Rauataians believe that the native Huana culture is inferior to their own and treat the Huana people accordingly. In contrast to the Vailian Trading Company, the RDC is organized like a naval force. Their titles and behavior reflect that view of the world. 

Philosophy and Goals - Rauataians as a cultural group have a long history of trade and conquest. The more hawkish personalities in their government have made steady progress towards a more aggressive "best defense is a good offense" stance in the world, and the leadership of the RDC comes from that mindset. They have flourished through a mixture of intrepid exploration, aggressive conquest, and relentless engineering of their hardscrabble homeland. They believe that through organization and engineering, they can bring civilization to Deadfire.

Relationship with Other Factions -

  • Vailians/VTC - They are deceitful, flamboyant, and frivolous, emphasizing form over function. Their pretty words cannot be trusted. Their preference for polymaths over specialists suggests impatience, which can never lead to true mastery.
  • Huana - They are super disorganized and (seemingly) passive - it's why they haven't flourished like the Rauataians. They were fractured by the disaster that drove the Rauataians away, and rather than establish a strong nation, most of them drift from island to island chasing seasonal resources. They don't solve problems, so they're beholden to them. What they need is some good ol' Rauataian civilization to set them straight.
  • What looks like adaptability to the Príncipi looks like haphazardness to the Rauataians. Like the Rauataians, the Príncipi had to leave their homeland. But rather than establishing a stable country (like their cousins in the Republics), they remained shiftless and aimless, living on ships and in driftwood towns that are one squall away from destruction. They are like children who refuse to grow up.Resources - Rauatai is known worldwide for its cannons. Gunpowder likely originated there, and they still trade in it as well as raw saltpeter. Those latter two items are the primary staples of their trade economy.

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Vailian Trading Company

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(Abbreviated as VTC in some text locations)

The Vailian Trading Company is the largest with a ducal charter and the only trading company with a canc suolias (five suns) charter, meaning it has the full backing of all five Grand Ducs of the Vailian Republics. The VTC was first featured in Pillars of Eternity during the quest 'At All Costs' in Ondra's Gift.

Philosophy and Goals - The Vailian Trading Company exists, according to its charter, for the sole purpose of enriching its investors, and, by proxy, the Vailian Republics themselves. Beneath that, however, runs a strong undercurrent of cultural pride. The directors of the company are motivated by the belief that the Vailians are the best traders in the world, and must always continue to be. While the Vailian Trading Company is generally considered reputable among the major foreign powers it trades with, on the frontier, far from the prying eyes of overseers, those standards quickly degrade.

Relationship with Other Factions -

  • The VTC is at peace with the Huana, but see the Huana as little more than a means to get what they want from Deadfire. They do not think anything of the Huana's claims to the land there, and believe it is only a matter of time before they are able to wrest it away with their charms and wiles.
  • Hostilities with the Royal Deadfire Company are ongoing. A bargain struck with the Kahanga prohibits conflict between the two in Deadfire, and within the borders of Neketaka, there exists an uneasy truce. (Though the two make every effort at espionage, sabotage, spite, and one-upmanship.) Elsewhere in Deadfire, the agreement is all but impossible to regulate, and fighting occurs readily when the two companies have the opportunity.
  • The Príncipi are a perpetual thorn in the side of the Vailians. They have a personal grudge of sorts against the Republics, and relish targeting VTC ships, seeking not only personal enrichment, but to do great damage to VTC operations.

Resources - The Vailian Trading Company is known for its versatility, having made a name for itself by securing deals on a broad range of goods. The Vailians feel that if there is money to be made on anything, large or small, they want to be the ones to be making it. The Republics themselves are sources of iron, copper, silver, glassworks, ships, spices, clocks, and astronomical equipment.

 

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Príncipi

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The Príncipi are largely descended from a group of refugees who fled the decline of Old Vailia (shortly before the Republics declared independence). They sailed around the Eastern Reach until they reached Deadfire, where instead of settling the islands, they continued their shipboard life. Seizing opportunities where they could, they gradually became pirates, smugglers, mercenaries, and merchants of ill repute. Over time, their ranks have swelled to include Deadfire's indigenous peoples (Huana) as well as enterprising or desperate individuals from other countries and cultures not aligned with the Republics or Rauatai (Dyrwood, Aedyr, Readceras, Ixamtl, etc.)

Religion - Religion among the Príncipi is as varied as membership. As sailors, many of them worship Ondra (as goddess of the oceans) and Hylea (for her influence over wind and weather) but others worship gods and goddesses that were more prominent in their homelands. Worship of Ondra, Woedica, and Hylea is especially common among descendants of Vailians.

Relationship with Other Factions

  • The Príncipi have fluid relationships with most other factions, as they are in a position to plunder (or sell to) just about anybody. 
  • The Príncipi frequently target Vailian Trading Company ships. Remembering that the first families could not find shelter in the Republics during their voyage, the Príncipi subject even surrendering crews to (painless) humiliations, such as leaving them all stranded in their smallclothes. 
  • Additionally, the Príncipi have been raiding Huana villages almost as long as they've been in the Deadfire. Pirates may have a better relationship with larger towns, however, particularly when they're frequented by merchants who will buy stolen goods.

Geography and Location - The first families initially landed toward the warm, northern portion of the archipelago, but the Príncipi have expanded their reach since then, and their ships can be found anywhere in Deadfire. They tend to lurk near trade routes and settled areas, though their havens are necessarily more remote. While the Príncipi do not found formal cities, they have semi-permanent colonies all around the archipelago where members may safely land for repairs, R&R, or to purchase new supplies. The locations of these havens are typically known only members (or extremely close associates) of the Príncipi.

 

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Huana

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The Huana are the primary indigenous people of the Deadfire Archipelago. The term "Huana" is a loose association that describes a decentralized population of aumaua, and Huana culture has evolved into a pastiche of local variations with a common root. Yet this is not to say that the Huana are entirely without structure or leadership. In time, they were able to establish a central government, although its influence tends to diminish the farther one sails from the seat of power.

Religion - Favored deities of the Huana include Ondra (who controls the seas) and Hylea (who controls the winds), as well as Woedica (who ensures peace by way of justice). Galawain also has a scattered following among the more conquest-oriented Huana tribes such as the Wahaki and Kahanga, who tend to use the god's endorsement of survival of the fittest as an argument for their positions of power. Huana in search of revenge against their enemies readily pray to Skaen, though he is not widely worshipped in other circumstances.

Relationship with Other Factions

  • The Huana are difficult to generalize because different tribes have different stances on the various influential groups in the region.
  • The most visible of the tribes, the Kahanga, has made deals with trading companies from both Rauatai and the Vailian Republics, who both have outposts in their largest city, hoping that they will keep each other in check and that their mutual competition will both enrich the Kahanga and ensure their safety. 
  • The Príncipi have historically raided the Huana, and many Huana consider them sworn enemies. However, the increased presence of the trading companies in recent years has diverted much of the pirates' attention, and it is not unheard of nowadays for the Huana to strike up alliances with the Príncipi in hopes of staving off the companies' advances.

Geography and Location - The Huana are spread across most all populated islands in the archipelago. Deadfire spans the length of the entire southern hemisphere, thus climate ranges from tropical in the north to temperate and polar in the south. Its largest population centers are in the subtropical band of islands.

 

Huana clothing

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Edited by Nail, 13 April 2017 - 12:43 AM.


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Vailian Trading Company here ;D



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Huana or no one (if there is a choice) for my Eothasian Watcher. But lone wolf fits him the best. I'll decide finally in the game. All fractions look interesting (maybe without Royal Deadfire Company who seems to be typical 'evil colonists').


Edited by White Phoenix, 13 April 2017 - 02:34 AM.


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I have a feeling that I'll end up siding with either the Huana or the RDC. The latter is a little to militaristic for my tastes, but Kana was my favorite companion in Pillars and I have a feeling that's going to influence my feelings in Pillars 2.


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I'm really torn here, because each of the factions seem interesting.

 

- The Principi sound like a lot of fun, considering they do silly things like leaving their victims in their underwear ;)

- I wasn't really into the RDC, but after seeing their designs, I'm starting to change my mind. They look pretty awesome.

- The VTC's philosophy of "profit first" is appealing. Also, I'm guessing that route will give you lots of interaction with Pallengina.

- I guess I find the Huana the least appealing, although I assume they're the standard route if you want to be the "good guy". (You know, be a White Knight and help the natives throw off the yolk of foreign invadors.)



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I have a feeling that I'll end up siding with either the Huana or the RDC. The latter is a little to militaristic for my tastes, but Kana was my favorite companion in Pillars and I have a feeling that's going to influence my feelings in Pillars 2.

 

Wow, this actually figures. I disliked Kana, so I'm thinking about other factions.

 

The way I see it Achilles will be friends will Maia Rua and/or blue-guy Tekehu, while Pallegina and/or Serafen might get pissed at you at some point.

 

And there'll be opposite companion reactions in my case.



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- I guess I find the Huana the least appealing, although I assume they're the standard route if you want to be the "good guy". (You know, be a White Knight and help the natives throw off the yolk of foreign invadors.)

 

I wonder about that. Per https://www.fig.co/c...ate=256#updates, Huana society is stratified based on a caste system that its members appear to be born into and there's no particular emphasis on or celebration of equality for its citizens. Depending on how visible these traditions are, siding with the Huana may raise serious questions as to whether you're helping a blameless underdog with their valiant struggles or disrupting changes that may actually benefit the lower-caste Huana overall. Even if they mostly ignore this particular aspect of the culture, there's still plenty of room for grey areas in regards to the compromises Queen Onekaza II makes to further her intrigues and/or the extremes Prince Aruihi will go to in his efforts to get rid of the colonizing forces. 

 

It'd be pretty lame if they didn't address any of these areas of concern, but even setting them all aside, there's still the question of whether the Watcher will truly have the power/influence to permanently banish any of the factions from the Deadfire Archipelago. If not, then whatever harm or setbacks you end up causing these groups could result in them oppressing the Huana more harshly. If the Watcher can somehow permanently force the groups out, there are still bound to be other groups that are interested in cornering the market on luminous ardra (unless you somehow wreck all of it to deter colonizing interests in the area, which could have all sorts of dire implications for the region and possibly the world at large).

 

As for my choice among the factions, my dissident watcher's currently leaning towards the Principi or no faction commitment. His contributions to revolutionary efforts via his background left him pretty burnt out on the political idealism front, realizing that he hates commoners about as much as he hates nobles, so the Prinicipi's focus on exploiting any and all parties would make the most sense to him. He could be persuaded to favor the Vailian Republics depending on the extent to which animancy research/experimentation is associated with them to the exclusion of other factions, though. If they're the primary hub for animancy, then what remains of his dissident instincts could lead him to promote their interests insofar as it enables animancy research and thus defiance of the gods, who he was never particularly fond of, especially after learning what he did about them at the end of Pillars 1.


Edited by blotter, 13 April 2017 - 10:44 PM.

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I'm gonna be a god damn pirate and raid everything I can.

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I'm gonna be a god damn pirate and raid everything I can.

 

I will do the same :D



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Huana are like the dozens - bunch of plebs.

 

 

Tomorrow my master chokes on his own whip.


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I will JOIN ALL THE FACTIONS!

 

Not at once though, probably :)


Edited by Regggler, 20 April 2017 - 11:02 PM.


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So, basically, the Huana are the natives, the Principi are organized pirates the two trading corps are an indengenous civilizations trading company while the other is an outsider trying to invade into the others territory. The closest equivalent of those two companies are pretty much any major European trading company during the Age of Sail. Though the Royal Deadfire Company would be more like if Indonesia (or at least other SE Asian nations) was on par technologically with Europe.

 

Anyways, being a pirate sounds like fun, so, I dunno, Principi maybe? or dissident?



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an indengenous civilizations trading company

Not so much. The people of Ruatia are amaua, but they are most assuredly *NOT* Huana. According to Obsidian, they explicitly consider the Huana to not have real "civilization" and that what they do have is inferior to Ruatai.

They are members of the same species, not the same civilization. Though yes, it seems pretty clear that Deadfire is based on the mass European cluster-****ing of the Spice Islands.


Edited by Katarack21, 24 April 2017 - 01:46 AM.


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Well, I meant 'indengenous to the Deadfire Archipelago', even if the home civilization is equivalent to Rome in that they think they are the pinnacle of civilization and everybody else are barbarians.

 

I had another idea last night, allied with Huana, but being a pirate at the same time. Honestly though, faction affiliation shouldn't stop you from being a pirate, it just changes who you can and can't attack.

 

Edit: Actually, I looked at the wiki and it looks like Rauatai isn't actually in the Deadfire Archipelago? I thought it was in the Deadfire Archipelago. So, misunderstanding/misinterpretation on my part. Though Kana's family is from the Deadfire archipelago.


Edited by smjjames, 24 April 2017 - 06:55 AM.





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