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Anything Eldar-focused would be neat, actually. Or Dark Eldar. Or just... Not centered on the Imperium.

Yeah, considering how that might just give rise to another god of Chaos I'm just going to classify that post as heresy. Expect a friendly visit from your local inquisition.

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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Not only that; there would appear to be pretty significant story advancement for them in the pipe (on top of Cadia having been blown the 'eff up):

 

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"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-23-10-hour-trial-of-mass-effect-andromeda-out-five-days-before-launch

 

EA plans to release a 10-hour trial of Mass Effect: Andromeda for Access subscribers.

 

The hefty trial of BioWare's sci-fi action RPG comes out on 16th March - five days before the full game comes out on 21st March in the US (it's 23rd in the UK).

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so that's more of a marketing tool than a way to gather feedback... too bad

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I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe.

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Well what else? At that point they won't be able to change the game anymore at all, so feedback would be kinda useless.

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Well what else? At that point they won't be able to change the game anymore at all, so feedback would be kinda useless.

Agreed, I will say that it shows confidence in their product (at least the first 10 hours). It is a good thing that game companies have gained some self awareness and are realizing that people won't buy buggy games on release.

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I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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I would not complain about demo at any name. 10h demo for wider audience. Fair enought.

Definetly better than "we are not even giving press copies before release"

It may be still possible that hours after 10th are horrible, but there is also fair amount of games where first hours already light the red bulb.

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I thought it was a nice gesture, but then I found out EA Access is a paywall. Classic EA.

 

That said, 10 hours is plenty to get an idea of how good or bad the game will be, so that when considered in isolation is more than fair and I hope other games follow suit. I ragequit on ME3 in less than half that time, and played DA3 even less (through apathy rather than anger in its case). Demos would have saved me from both.

 

....maybe I shouldn't tell them that.

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I thought it was a nice gesture, but then I found out EA Access is a paywall. Classic EA.

 

That said, 10 hours is plenty to get an idea of how good or bad the game will be, so that when considered in isolation is more than fair and I hope other games follow suit. I ragequit on ME3 in less than half that time, and played DA3 even less (through apathy rather than anger in its case). Demos would have saved me from both.

 

....maybe I shouldn't tell them that.

That's exactly why demos are so rare now. Plus you can't really evaluate an RPG with a short demo in most cases. Demos do make sense for smaller games that wouldn't get much attention otherwise though.

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Well with demos there is a little problem - pirates have more time to crack exe file (if you are not stupid as us were when we released exe for Mafia 2 demo which was not encrypted, now that was a disaster xD)

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Not sure if pirates are main reason for lack of demos, that is more of excuse from publishers.

There is enought reason from production point of view:

  • Need part of game which is very good. But you can understand it without everything.
  • Network speed vary, and casually downloading 5gb is not always possible.
  • Game cant be bugged at release (probably main reason)
  • Creating 1h official gameplay is cheaper and gives much more control
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Swat 4 is on GOG, w00t.

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Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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Feeling like repeating myself, but... I really want a good new SWAT game, with ballistic shields and dogs and all that jazz. :/

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Swat 4 is on GOG, w00t.

Just bought it and 3.
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SWAT 3 was my favorite shooter for the longest time, awesome game

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I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe.

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I liked SWAT 1 before that!

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