City of Lost Children.
A good classic from the 90's, and had to do it with the French dialogue and English subtitles.
One of Jean-Pierre Jeunet's slightly surreal films, with an edge of steampunk, and Ron Perlman and a couple of very good child actors.
A scientist kidnaps children to steal their dreams for reasons, and after Ron Perlman's brother is kidnapped he goes looking for him, teaming up with the young girl who leads a group of orphan thieves.
Krank can't dream, therefore he needs the kids dreams so he can sleep. Great film, I need to re-watch it.
I dunno, I don't think the premise was ever 'is there really a witch'. It's completely off formula for a 2015 horror movie and I might be a little biased. I like that sort of thing.
Yeah the film isn't "Is there a witch?" its "The Witch" (or if you're being pedantic, "The VVitch")
If it wasn't then it should've been. To each their own obviously, but I thought it was a weakness. Like the 'intense rabbit' scenes, they would've been freaky in a 'what the hell is wrong with that thing' way if the film didn't make it so easy to go 'oh the witch did something'. And the family's consistent paranoia against each other was well-acted, but would've been much more effective if I could have shared it. Now it started to get irritating because I knew they were wrong, made them feel a little stupid despite their actions being logical because the film gave me too much info to work with as a viewer. It's not fun to see people be wrong all the time. The atmosphere was terrific but there wasn't as much tension in 'what's the witch going to do now' as there would have been in 'what the hell is happening to this poor family' IMO.
I thought the tension was really tied more to the fact that you know there's a witch out there, you know the family has broken with their faith (even as they see themselves as the pious ones) and so the source of suspense is whether any of them will be able to extricate themselves from what is preying on them.
I quite liked the film even with its authentic period English dialogue.
If you're looking for more questions than answers, I can suggest 1983's EYES OF FIRE. Slightly later time period in the US (early to mid 18th instead of 17th century) but similar ideas - people leave the protection of town due to religious difference and run afoul of dark things in the woods - but with a lot less explanation.
Well, a title's a title you know? Just because The Hobbit is about a Hobbit doesn't mean The Witch has to be about a specific witch. Moreso than the actual witch the conflict came from the family starting to believe the teenage girl was "The VVitch" - that would have worked fine. I'm just saying I feel like the actual Witch, or at least the lack of ambiguity about it from the early preceedings, made it a lot less tense and more slow than it could have been. Plus, that early scene with the baby? Clearly the most horrifying part - it kinda shot its load in the first five minutes and had trouble staying on that level.
It also seemingly was the director's intent for it to be more ambiguous, as he made a point of mentioning in interviews that the "rot" on the grain that causes some of their hunger woes was Ergot, the hallucinogenic fungus that LSD was originally made from that is speculated to have influenced the Salem Witch Trials. So the director intended that ambiguity, he just made some weird decisions that made the movie not convey it. Again, to each their own, but I would have liked that version a lot more - I identify with characters paranoia much more if I get to share it (which is why The Thing remains one of the best horror movies of all time) and especially the ending would have been less ridiculous.
I'm not saying it's a bad film, mind, I'm still super impressed by the acting and cinematography and period detail. I just think it has some big problems in the storytelling department.
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll see if I can find a copy.
Edited by TrueNeutral, 03 January 2017 - 03:57 AM.