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Update 3.04 is now live on Steam, Origin, and GOG


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When you stop releasing patches aka "we've deal with several bugs, but create another bunch of it"?
When you stop this ****in vicious circle?



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Magnets Patches, how do they work?

Ok, maybe half a year ago, i would be mad with updates like this, but now i'm more interested with what part of the game will be fuked up in the next update.



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Still waiting for GOG.....

 

Probably today I hope



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Interesting to see such vocal complaints.

As GoG have not released the patch yet and you guys seem to have it, it ensues you're on Steam--the one platform on which beta patches are made available.

In case you missed the memo, the purpose of beta patches is precisely for you to report this kind of bugs ahead of the patch's release, so we don't end up with a broken game. Yet I don't recall seeing any of you around during the beta patch, which lasted for about one month during which there was a lot of back and forth communication with the devs. Ironic that you'd come around now to complain.

3.04 is the last patch; there likely won't be others. 3.03 was already supposed to be the last and it was a kindness on Obsidian's part to spend additional resources on a game whose development cycle's already over to please those few fans who stuck on the boards.

I hope they'll release a hot fix but I doubt being bashed for releasing one more patch is going to make them particularly willing.

Edited by AndreaColombo, 07 November 2016 - 06:22 AM.

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I hope they'll release a hot fix but I doubt being bashed for releasing one more patch is going to make them particularly willing.

I hope they release, at least one patch, that fixes all existing bugs and produce no another.


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For my part, I think there is a problem if the bug is confirmed.

 

This bug can potentially kill the difficulty in PoTD (If he is true).

 

But Andreacolombo tell the truth : WHY nobody found this bug during the time of beta ?...



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But Andreacolombo tell the truth : WHY nobody found this bug during the time of beta ?...

 

No one who owns PoE on GoG had access to the beta as I understand it. This includes Andrea, so he certainly can't be blamed for not finding the bug.


Edited by JerekKruger, 07 November 2016 - 07:17 AM.


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I agree the bug is a problem if confirmed on saves other than the OP's, and I hope there will be a fix. What I take issue with is people with access to the beta doing no testing at all, then coming here and bashing the devs because a bug was found. It's a matter of attitude, rather than of content.
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Wait and see.

 

I'll test the Gog version.

 

For the bashing, it's not malicious, it's logical. We are in 3.04... about ~10 patchs. This is the last, guys. And this bug (if confirmed) is silent major bug. 

 

I use very often the quicksave. Its very practical.

 

Otherwise, the game is awsome, its not a question of bashing.

 

to confirm.


Edited by theBalthazar, 07 November 2016 - 08:08 AM.


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I agree the bug is a problem if confirmed on saves other than the OP's, and I hope there will be a fix. What I take issue with is people with access to the beta doing no testing at all, then coming here and bashing the devs because a bug was found. It's a matter of attitude, rather than of content.

TS has upload his saves. https://www.dropbox....Rm3OhrcJha?dl=0
Anyone might try. I'm not sure - is this only for Stalwart or any other area in the game, but it's not right. Whatever, if you can beat first pack of ogres (accuracy 77-78) without save, next pack have 86 accuracy. How so?! It's the same ogres. WTF, Obsidian?
 


Edited by Phenomenum, 07 November 2016 - 08:52 AM.


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I think this is being blown out of proportion a little, I was mainly curious to see if Obsidian were open to a hotfix rather than insisting on one. The bug does in some fashion seem avoidable, so it's not a huge problem at all - but as it's on the critical path, at least in terms of the expansion, it might be worthy of a hotfix.

 

Plus, if it's only confined to Stalwart, which I think is the case then it's just a few encounters in a whole game full of more difficult ones. An annoyance, to be sure, but a fairly minor one - especially when you consider Obsidian have pulled out all the stops and done a great job on the patch otherwise.


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Plus, if it's only confined to Stalwart, which I think is the case then it's just a few encounters in a whole game full of more difficult ones. An annoyance, to be sure, but a fairly minor one - especially when you consider Obsidian have pulled out all the stops and done a great job on the patch otherwise.

 

Plus, if it's only confined to Stalwart, which I think is the case then it's just a few encounters in a whole game full of more difficult ones. An annoyance, to be sure, but a fairly minor one - especially when you consider Obsidian have pulled out all the stops and done a great job on the patch otherwise.

 

And especially when you compare it to, say, Baldur's Gate 2, which had a list of known bugs as long as your arm which never received an official fix, yet somehow manages to be a favourite of many people.

 

But yeah, whilst the bug is annoying, there's a simple work around for non-ToI games (hard save before hand and load that rather than the autosave) and the only ways the bug causes a problem for ToI games is if (i) the player travels to Stalwart then immediately decides to quit and reload or (ii) is using some trick to get around the point of ToI. I'd imagine (i) is fairly rare (wouldn't most people quit before travelling to Stalwart?) and (ii) is, well, bizarre to my mind given that it defeats the purpose of ToI.

 

Then, even if you do fall into one of these two categories, all that is happening is that a handful of encounters are becoming easier. You're not going to lose a ToI run as a result of this bug: if you die in Stalwart after activating the bug then you would have died anyway.


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3.04 is out on GoG.
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Wait wait... 1.5GB on Steam and 12 MB on gog... What ?



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Wait wait... 1.5GB on Steam and 12 MB on gog... What ?

 

That's because you GoG users don't get all the super secret extra content that we steam users get. Our patch included 100 new Soulbound items, the White March part III, the first chapter of PoE2 and a cheque for $1000...

 

More seriously, that is a pretty huge size difference. Is the GoG patch really that small?


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Steam doesn't really care about bandwidth usage. From what I've seen it tends to download a new version of any file that has been modified.

 

Maybe GoG instead actually patches files?



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Steam doesn't really care about bandwidth usage. From what I've seen it tends to download a new version of any file that has been modified.

 

Maybe GoG instead actually patches files?

 

GOG patches the files, so there is probably some good magic behind the process. The patch is pretty small, but the process took a while, with thousands of files and maybe 2 GB in action. I thought the process had crashed, but after maybe 2 minutes it was done. And during the process the folder was maybe 2 GB bigger than at the end. So well done GOG (although I don't like the delay with patches) :)

 

PS: Steam sucks! :)


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Don't see mention of this Knock-Down issue, so has it been fixed?

http://forums.obsidi...necrotic-lance/

 

(I see the Necrotic Lance has been sorted, so thanks for that :))



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Update: The 3.04 Update is now live on GOG.


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