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In other news the NBA D League has sold it's naming rights to Gatorade: http://dleague.nba.c...torade-league/.

 

The upshot there is Gatorade is going to collaborate with the league on player development. If that means improving training and coaching then it's a plus. I didn't know that 40% of NBA players have had time in the D league. I didn't think it was near that high.

 

And is the NBA considering expansion to 32 teams? This article doesn't confirm it but then cities are putting together bid packages in a time when no teams are relocation candidates it makes you wonder. Where there is smoke there is usually fire. http://www.sbnation....tle-adam-silver

 

Whenever expansion comes up you have to ask if the talent pool of the league can support two new teams. I think the skill level of the average NBA player has never been higher but must clubs still have bench depth problems. At the same time the game has never been more popular overseas and several nations in Europe and elsewhere have leagues that play at a high level. The talent pool may be there.

 

What do you guys think? 



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Baseball and hockey have complex minor league systems, so I think it is good that basketball has been growing theirs. 

 

I'm always a fan of expansion, although basketball is a bit different because you usually only have a couple super teams. How will they ensure those teams are competitive? 



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That is where talent pool dilution becomes a concern.  Are there enough NBA caliber players to fill out two more rosters. For this sport, I think the answer is yes since the game is a global one now. Of the "Big 4"  sports in North America basketball is the only one I can say that about. But only because the roster sized are considerably smaller than the other leagues.



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I agree that there is enough talent to spread around but I also agree that top talent has been pooling on teams to try to dominate

 

What was the last championship team to not have multiple superstars? Dallas? The last one to not really have any? Detroit?



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The best way to build a team is to follow The Process:

1) Get lucky in the draft and develop a superstar.
2) Find the right coach and install a system built around the skills of the superstar.
3) Sign and draft the right mix of players and personalities to complement the superstar.
4) Draw large crowds and budget appropriately to retain the superstar and complementary players.

I agree that the talent level in the NBA is fine, but also that smart teams can always find specialists overseas or in the D-League to develop. Good scouting and advanced analytics can find these players.

And yes, Seattle absolutely has to have the Supersonics back.
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Would the 2014 Spurs Champ team be considered a superstar laden team? Tim Duncan is obviously a legend, but he was pretty old by then.



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Kawhi Leonard may not have had superstar recognition, but by then he was a superstar talent. He's top five right now.
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When you're good you make it look easy: http://www.nba.com/v...errick-williams



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What a sorry effort by the Grizzlies last night. They were sleepwalking through the first three periods. Especially the third. Then a furious comeback attempt in the 4th that just came up short. The hole was too deep to dig out of. I had decent seats though. The were the last row of the lower level even with the foul line.



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Kyrie is on to THEM.

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Someone should tell him the ball is flat.



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Looks legit.

 

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Maybe he went to the NBA right out of kindergarten



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He could also be brilliantly driving traffic to his buddy's podcast.  :)



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Maybe he went to the NBA right out of kindergarten

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maybe heliocentric solar systems is 2nd year material at duke?

 

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That game was boring

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Boogie. Lols.

 

http://sports.yahoo....-050000759.html

 

After promising DeMarcus Cousins privately and publicly that he wouldn’t be moved prior to Thursday’s NBA trade deadline, the Sacramento Kings unloaded the three-time All-Star center to the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources told The Vertical.  

 

New Orleans will send guard Buddy Hield, 2017 first- and second-round picks, and guards Tyreke Evans and Langston Galloway to Sacramento for Cousins and forward Omri Casspi, league sources told The Vertical.

 

 

The Kings simply decided that they no longer wanted to let Cousins’ volatility dictate the culture of the locker room, league sources said. In recent weeks, majority owner Vivek Ranadive had become more open to the front office’s willingness to trade Cousins, passing on the commitment to the $209 million extension this summer, league sources said. Cousins’ uneven behavior in recent weeks chipped away at Ranadive’s resolve to keep him, and he started to listen more closely to the front office’s push to trade him for assets and rebuild, sources said. Two incidents in particular — an expletive-laced remark Cousins made about Golden State after Sacramento’s overtime win over the Warriors on Feb. 6 and a 17th technical foul, resulting in a one-game suspension, against New Orleans on Feb. 12 — caused Ranadive to have serious concerns about tethering the franchise to Cousins long term.


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lel

 

And they had a shot to get Drummond for Boggie. How do you pass that up? Stein needs to be reinstated for basketball reasons and save the Kings from themselves.


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Do you guys realize Gonzaga is just two wins away from a perfect regular season. But they are still predicted to be the 4th seed in two weeks.

 

That bang you just heard was Volo's head exploding. Too bad! We can talk college hoops here too with selection sunday just two weeks away!






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