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Also, Bester, I know we all share a common hatred for the Memorials, but is there any chance you could restore the deleted/changed Memorial as a core part of the mod? The tears of insane SJW everywere that just can't possibly use the mod when it includes such "transphobia" would nourish all thinking people everywhere, I think.


As a core part - no, because I need memorials to be exposed for other purposes. As a module - it's already been made. http://www.nexusmods...ernity/mods/28/

 

The reason I exposed the memorials is to allow people to rewrite them so they'd fit the lore, if there are any such enthusiasts. Now that it's been done, I can't just "lock" the content of one entry.

 

As for SJW lunatics, I just don't have enough enthusiasm to make special mods just for them, they're already getting more attention than they deserve. During 524 version, the limerick was at the bottom of the screen as Sensuki said, and in that time, there was only one sjw at nexus who got mildly butthurt over it. As you can see, SJWs don't actually play PoE, cause it's a heavily hetero-male oriented game. 94,6% visitors of the iemod site are male.

 

And how would you know this? Do you ask them for their ID and sexual preference?   :getlost:

 

 

Not sure if srs or just that computer illiterate. 



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Also, Bester, I know we all share a common hatred for the Memorials, but is there any chance you could restore the deleted/changed Memorial as a core part of the mod? The tears of insane SJW everywere that just can't possibly use the mod when it includes such "transphobia" would nourish all thinking people everywhere, I think.


As a core part - no, because I need memorials to be exposed for other purposes. As a module - it's already been made. http://www.nexusmods...ernity/mods/28/

 

The reason I exposed the memorials is to allow people to rewrite them so they'd fit the lore, if there are any such enthusiasts. Now that it's been done, I can't just "lock" the content of one entry.

 

As for SJW lunatics, I just don't have enough enthusiasm to make special mods just for them, they're already getting more attention than they deserve. During 524 version, the limerick was at the bottom of the screen as Sensuki said, and in that time, there was only one sjw at nexus who got mildly butthurt over it. As you can see, SJWs don't actually play PoE, cause it's a heavily hetero-male oriented game. 94,6% visitors of the iemod site are male.

 

And how would you know this? Do you ask them for their ID and sexual preference?   :getlost:

 

 

Not sure if srs or just that computer illiterate. 


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Luckmann, on 04 Apr 2015 - 11:12 PM, said:

Why? Because he probably enjoy the virgin tears of the intellectually disinclined as much as the next person? Because he's awesome, and we like awesome people? Because it's hilariously easy to actually do for him, but an insurmountable hurdle for the mental midgets that would be put off by it? Take your pick. [:lol:]

-Nice bit of Ad Hominem there. Curious as to why you think people who have different views politically/sociologically from you are "mental midgets". It can be a dangerous thing, underestimating the intellect of one's opponents. Yes, I'm sure some "SJWs" are dumb as dog****, but there are also some who are bound to be much smarter than you or I. Same goes for the "pro-GG miso-transo-homo-lacto-phobic troglodytes" who are on the other side of the argument. Social and political views bear little correlation to intelligence.

The fact that these self-appointed social justice warriors that insist on taking offense by proxy do not even play the games, nor consider themselves gamers, but just look upon the medium as a political platform to push their agenda or peddle their filth, just makes the thing so much worse, and if anything, reinforces the incentive to push back, in however a small form.

That sentence is incorrect in a number of ways. Firstly, "SJWs" aren't self appointed. That moniker was not invented nor is used by most people who would qualify for the label. Also, from what I've seen, most of them ARE gamers (Including, I might add, the person that first tweeted to obsidian about the memorial in the first place) and even developers (Some of Obsidian included). I know it's easier to see them as some outside force trying to change gaming for the worse, but that's just not the case.I myself am sympathetic to some of these issues (I stress "some of"). This issue specifically, I think has been blown out of proportion. But in general, I think more inclusiveness in gaming, less stereotypes of minorities/genders etc. (All that "SJW" stuff) would be a good thing. And I play games. I consider myself a gamer, and have done since the early 80's (Generally though, I prefer playing games rather than arguing about them) . To put it in modern internet vernacular "Im in ur games social justicing ur entertainment"

(Also, "peddle their filth" - really? Exaggerate much?)

TL;DR Don't presume to know your opponent's intellect or gaming habits. Underestimating the competition has a history of going badly.


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I see, so google analytics can tell you that PoE is a heavily hetero-male oriented game -and- that SJW don't play it because of that. Ok, just checking. *shrug*



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And now this **** is being brought into IE mod topics, great! -_-


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I see, so google analytics can tell you that PoE is a heavily hetero-male oriented game -and- that SJW don't play it because of that. Ok, just checking. *shrug*

All he said is that over 94% of visitors to the IE mod site are men. Saying that this is not indicative of the target audience of Pillars of Eternity is tantamount to saying that women do play PoE, but are just too dumb to use the IE Mod.

I prefer to think that the average woman is just as dumb as the average man. Unless there's any reason specifically men would use the IE Mod, there's no reason to think that the analytics would be off when it comes to PoE itself. Do men mod their games more than women? If so, why? And so on and so forth.

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It's worth noting that the Nexus gender field defaults to Male, and changing it means digging through profile settings.  Until I saw this thread I wasn't even aware there was a way to specify my gender.  I have a Nexus account so I can download stuff and my profile is completely empty, which I suspect is representative of most Nexus users.  In short, there's no statistical significance to the gender field on the Nexus.


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It's worth noting that the Nexus gender field defaults to Male, and changing it means digging through profile settings.  Until I saw this thread I wasn't even aware there was a way to specify my gender.  I have a Nexus account so I can download stuff and my profile is completely empty, which I suspect is representative of most Nexus users.  In short, there's no statistical significance to the gender field on the Nexus.

 

There's a gender field on Nexus?  Where is it?  I looked at my profile but don't see anything.  For the record, I'm a woman, I use the IE mod, and I made a huge pile of mods for the first Witcher game.

 

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There's a gender field on Nexus?  Where is it?  I looked at my profile but don't see anything.  For the record, I'm a woman, I use the IE mod, and I made a huge pile of mods for the first Witcher game.

 

Click on the arrow next to your username, then "user area", then "change email address", then "profile settings" and it's halfway down the page.  It took me a full 5 minutes of looking to find it after reading this thread.  I still don't know if others can view this field, but since someone upthread was quoting stats, I assume so.  Maybe it's linked to download statistics somehow.


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Doesn't google analytic's use your sign-in? By that your Google account, like gmail to phish for usage stats. The first party cookies as one of the ways they gather information seems to bear that out. https://developers.g...rackingOverview



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What are you guys using to edit the IE mod? Thinking about fooling around with xp amounts, and maybe creature stats.


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Doesn't google analytic's use your sign-in? By that your Google account, like gmail to phish for usage stats. The first party cookies as one of the ways they gather information seems to bear that out. https://developers.g...rackingOverview

 

Huh, no idea.  Though that would require the user to have a gmail/google+ account and have filled in their gender as well.  And unlike the Nexus, I've given up trying to find the gender field in google+.  It's got to be there somewhere, but I haven't had any luck so far.

 

Either way, my personal experience suggest the assertion that 95% of PoE players (or IE Mod users?) are male is completely wrong.  Of the people I know playing PoE, roughly half are female, and a number of them are trans male and trans female as well.  My experience may also be nontypical, but it's no less relevant than stats gathered based on a non-required field which defaults to male :)


Edited by complexmath, 05 April 2015 - 01:56 PM.

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What are you guys using to edit the IE mod? Thinking about fooling around with xp amounts, and maybe creature stats.

A way to control exp would be great. Would love to set exp at around 80-85% to reach level 12 near the end game with all quests, etc completed.



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What are you guys using to edit the IE mod? Thinking about fooling around with xp amounts, and maybe creature stats.

A way to control exp would be great. Would love to set exp at around 80-85% to reach level 12 near the end game with all quests, etc completed.

 

 

Considering the XP you get at the end and the XP you get by clearing floor 13 that would actually mean you fight Floor 13 with level 11 (or less) but why XP reduction? Why not more levels, more abilities etc.? (Anyway, I accidentally quoted this so yay ;p)

 

 

There's a gender field on Nexus?  Where is it?  I looked at my profile but don't see anything.  For the record, I'm a woman, I use the IE mod, and I made a huge pile of mods for the first Witcher game.

 

Click on the arrow next to your username, then "user area", then "change email address", then "profile settings" and it's halfway down the page.  It took me a full 5 minutes of looking to find it after reading this thread.  I still don't know if others can view this field, but since someone upthread was quoting stats, I assume so.  Maybe it's linked to download statistics somehow.

 

 

That's Nexus forums, not Nexus site ;) 2 difference things login and account wise. There is no way a mod author knows anything about who or what downloaded his mods on Nexus.

 

Your profile for the Nexus forums lists gender, but the NEXUS user details do not. And those 2 things are not linked.

 

Ps.: And I have mods on Nexus ;) Although only 4 very silly ones for Witcher 2.. if there is a way to see any detailed stats I never found it.


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Sensuki, have you finished PoE already ? Can you say that you are satisfied ? ; )

I think the better question is how many times has he beaten it? :p

 

I'm surprised to see a lot of posting still happening here. Shouldn't the beta forums be locked or something, or is this just where the cool kids like to hang out these days?


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Nah I haven't finished it, haven't really been enjoying the game so I stopped and I'm playing something else at the moment.


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Nah I haven't finished it, haven't really been enjoying the game so I stopped and I'm playing something else at the moment.

Sorry to hear that, particularly after all the time you spent helping to improve the game. I guess this is perhaps the curse of being so deeply invested. Perhaps there was practically no way the final product could live up to your expectations.

 

I'm happy in this case not to be much of a game critic, as that means I'm pretty much able to relive the experience I had back in college when I first played Baldur's Gate. Except, I haven't dropped out of work for a week (been tempted, trust me, just not a good time for that at the moment), and I'm consuming a lot less pizza.

 

The game has it's flaws, but I'm getting my IE fix in a 2015 package.



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I'm surprised to see a lot of posting still happening here. Shouldn't the beta forums be locked or something, or is this just where the cool kids like to hang out these days?

 

 

Well they are like the unofficial obsidian modding forums so they will still have activity until they give us a proper modding forum.



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Nah I haven't finished it, haven't really been enjoying the game so I stopped and I'm playing something else at the moment.

Sorry to hear that, particularly after all the time you spent helping to improve the game. I guess this is perhaps the curse of being so deeply invested. Perhaps there was practically no way the final product could live up to your expectations.

 

I'm happy in this case not to be much of a game critic, as that means I'm pretty much able to relive the experience I had back in college when I first played Baldur's Gate. Except, I haven't dropped out of work for a week (been tempted, trust me, just not a good time for that at the moment), and I'm consuming a lot less pizza.

 

The game has it's flaws, but I'm getting my IE fix in a 2015 package.

 

 

Honestly the EE games were better...especially that last update to BG2EE...add a few mods from G3 and damn PoE is **** by comparison.

 

I'm doing Bloodborne mostly with Scholar next...game's a few patches (more like design decisions) away from being mediocre and is literally unplayable w/o the IE mod(IMO anyway).


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Sorry to hear that, particularly after all the time you spent helping to improve the game. I guess this is perhaps the curse of being so deeply invested. Perhaps there was practically no way the final product could live up to your expectations.

 

It has nothing with being invested or being a critic. I also own the game and stopped playing mid way.

It's just too boring.

Wave after wave of mmo enemies that yield no reward and now that i see the IE mod is discontinued i'm not coming here anymore either, since removing the movement limitations at least made the game bearable.


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