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Did Saddam ever watch Hot Shots 2?



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You bet, he did!



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You don't release people's personal banking and social security details for a publicity stunt.

 

Personally I don't believe that the Norks have sufficiently experienced hackers to pull this off. I put Chinese or Iranian mercs in the frame.

 

The leaks, if not the underlying hack, have reportedly been traced to the network of a fancy hotel in Bangkok

 

 

It's a weird sort of mentality all over the web these days that first suspects some kind of false-flag attack for, well, everything.  I suspect it originates from the 'chan universe (where such suspicions are usually quite justified), but it is very rarely justified elsewhere.


Edited by Enoch, 19 December 2014 - 07:43 AM.

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You don't release people's personal banking and social security details for a publicity stunt.

 

Personally I don't believe that the Norks have sufficiently experienced hackers to pull this off. I put Chinese or Iranian mercs in the frame.

 

The leaks, if not the underlying hack, have reportedly been traced to the network of a fancy hotel in Bangkok

 

 

It's a weird sort of mentality all over the web these days that first suspects some kind of false-flag attack for, well, everything.  I suspect it originates from the 'chan universe (where such suspicions are usually quite justified), but it is very rarely justified elsewhere.

 

Bangkok, that's in N.K. right? America to the rescue....some days I wonder if WWIV will be started by the American's complete lack of geographical knowledge.



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You don't release people's personal banking and social security details for a publicity stunt.

 

Personally I don't believe that the Norks have sufficiently experienced hackers to pull this off. I put Chinese or Iranian mercs in the frame.

 

The leaks, if not the underlying hack, have reportedly been traced to the network of a fancy hotel in Bangkok

 

 

It's a weird sort of mentality all over the web these days that first suspects some kind of false-flag attack for, well, everything.  I suspect it originates from the 'chan universe (where such suspicions are usually quite justified), but it is very rarely justified elsewhere.

 

Bangkok, that's in N.K. right? America to the rescue....some days I wonder if WWIV will be started by the American's complete lack of geographical knowledge.

 

 

Just bomb everything west of Seoul and east of Hong Kong to glass, just to be sure.



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You do realize that I was responding to Wals' assertion that NK would've contracted something like this out, right? 



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You do realize that I was responding to Wals' assertion that NK would've contracted something like this out, right? 

He's using logic, get him!


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Why is suspecting false flag attacks weird ? It's fairly easy to do with online attacks and is lulz-y. NK should have just sent people to take care of Rogan, no big loss there.
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You don't release people's personal banking and social security details for a publicity stunt.

 

Personally I don't believe that the Norks have sufficiently experienced hackers to pull this off. I put Chinese or Iranian mercs in the frame.

 

My bad. I hadn't actually researched the extent of the attack. Seems they even leaked unreleased films along all sorts of personal confidential data. The description is so over the top that it could well be the script for one of those 90's cyber crime b-films. This **** puts Anonymous' antics to shame.

 

Still, I was mostly surprised that Paramount would also follow suit and pull Team America. Paramount and Sony are different companies, right? They have their unreleased flicks and all the dirty laundry on the cloud too or what?

 

 

It's a weird sort of mentality all over the web these days that first suspects some kind of false-flag attack for, well, everything.  I suspect it originates from the 'chan universe (where such suspicions are usually quite justified), but it is very rarely justified elsewhere.

 

I'm a weird sort of guy. Sorry, I guess?

 

Disclaimer: I haven't even visited 4chan.


Edited by 213374U, 19 December 2014 - 10:45 AM.


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Why is suspecting false flag attacks weird ? It's fairly easy to do with online attacks and is lulz-y. NK should have just sent people to take care of Rogan, no big loss there.

 

Well, in hindsight, "weird" probably wasn't the right word to use.  It's an understandable way for folks to psychologically cope with an occurrence/opinion/fact that would otherwise risk upsetting their pre-existing views.  The degree to which it has become the default response of certain ideologues-- often contrary to even rudimentary logical thought-- though, feels new to me. 


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Why is suspecting false flag attacks weird ? It's fairly easy to do with online attacks and is lulz-y. NK should have just sent people to take care of Rogan, no big loss there.

 

Suppose you arrive at home and your wife is blaming your new puppy for pooping on the rug, and you tell her that she obviously did it herself in order to get rid of the dog.

 

Yeah this could be a Sony executive conducting a felony fraud against their own company, shaking faith in the entire firm and its manifold products all for the sake of a rather minor comedy. But they would have to be criminally insane. It's totally and ludicrously out of proportion. After the threats of violence they'd be sent to a federal penitentiary on terrorism charges.

 

Or it could be the criminally insane nutjobs running the whackstate that is North Korea where the world's chubbiest god-monarch rules over some of the hungriest people.

 

Get a ****ing grip on yourselves.


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Well, in hindsight, "weird" probably wasn't the right word to use.  It's an understandable way for folks to psychologically cope with an occurrence/opinion/fact that would otherwise risk upsetting their pre-existing views.  The degree to which it has become the default response of certain ideologues-- often contrary to even rudimentary logical thought-- though, feels new to me.


Ah you're one of those. Well, the idea that this some one posing as NK for some amusement (false-flag is just when the flag is fake, no?) isn't all that kooky as you seem to want to make it out to be. It could be NK as well, who knows really what their technological capability is for something like this - the attack was pretty crude apparently, nothing Stuxnet-esque or people they've hired to do it (still them in the end though).

Have been attacks here, well okay some webpages defaced, by people claiming to be ISIS or some other terrorist group as well when it's come out it's just youths being edgy.

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Of interest.
 
"Emails Reveal US State Department Influenced Sony’s “The Interview” so as to Encourage Assassination and Regime Change in North Korea"

The emails also reveal that a RAND corporation senior defense analyst who consulted on the film went beyond “blessing” and outright influenced the end of the film, encouraging the CEO of Sony Entertainment to leave the assassination scene as it was (in spite of misgivings at Sony) for the sake of encouraging North Koreans to actually assassinate Kim Jong-Un and depose his regime when the movie eventually leaks into that country. According to the Sony CEO, a senior US State Department official emphatically and personally seconded that advice and reasoning in a separate correspondence.


Edited by Barothmuk, 19 December 2014 - 11:10 AM.


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That seems like some "kitchen sink" type strategy there, hah.

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Well, in hindsight, "weird" probably wasn't the right word to use.  It's an understandable way for folks to psychologically cope with an occurrence/opinion/fact that would otherwise risk upsetting their pre-existing views.  The degree to which it has become the default response of certain ideologues-- often contrary to even rudimentary logical thought-- though, feels new to me. 

 

Cognitive dissonance shouldn't feel new to you if you read WoT regularly. It's about par for the course here.


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That seems like some "kitchen sink" type strategy there, hah.

What are you talking about?

"Fund a Seth Rogan stoner comedy" is a common military tactic.
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That seems like some "kitchen sink" type strategy there, hah.

What are you talking about?

"Fund a Seth Rogan stoner comedy" is a common military tactic.

 

 

 

It's not commonly known, but is obviously true that the plan for post Invasion Iraq was actually a pitch for a comedy.

 

Only it wasn't Seth Rogan. It was Uwe Boll.



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You don't release people's personal banking and social security details for a publicity stunt.

 

Personally I don't believe that the Norks have sufficiently experienced hackers to pull this off. I put Chinese or Iranian mercs in the frame.

 

The leaks, if not the underlying hack, have reportedly been traced to the network of a fancy hotel in Bangkok

 

 

It's a weird sort of mentality all over the web these days that first suspects some kind of false-flag attack for, well, everything.  I suspect it originates from the 'chan universe (where such suspicions are usually quite justified), but it is very rarely justified elsewhere.

 

perhaps movies and tv shows has taught folks that such wide publicized computer hacks is a smokescreen or a diversion and typically there is some larger plot at work.  also, as far as international incidents are concerned, it is so hard for most folks to take this serious. is not at all like timothy olyphant stealing the totality o' US financial information from a social security computer facility, and there is no threat o' a nuke or dirty bomb being smuggled into ________.  aren't we s'posed to be afraid that the chinese can disable the US power grid?  don't you realize that we are already living in the Matrix, and there ain't no neo to save your clueless arse from digital Armageddon?

 

where were we? oh, yeah, north korea sponsors a hack o' sony that humiliates some executives and compels 'em to delay the release of a comedy film.

 

...

 

this isn't what we were promised by movies and tv and conspiracy theory nutters. the sony hack is so ridiculously banal.  north korea didn't bring about a financial catastrophe in the west and they didn't have planes crash into iconic US buildings.  the endgame were that the haX0rs left a flaming bag of poop on the doorstep of sony? is not a particularly satisfying plot for a tv show or movie, is it? is more like a south park episode scenario, yes?

 

HA! Good Fun!


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Online conspiracy communities are gaining more attention and viewership over time. It used to be that particular fringe were isolated, occasionally published books, would be interviewed by low budget TV shows, and had small little conventions through newsletter circulation.

Now they're finding their way to not only their isolated little corners of the web, but corners of popular websites like reddit.com where they can get the paranoia out to more people as well as reinforce one another in larger numbers.





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