Dark Side but Good, Light Side but Bad

[Qistina]

I don't know if this have been discussed before, but have anyone try this? Play as Dark Jedi but always do good, play as Jedi but always do bad, for each get maximum DS and LS points in doing the paradox?

 

Is it possible?

 

It is because of doing good will earn LS point and doing evil will earn DS point, how i want to play a max DS point character but actually a good character and in contra max LS point character but a bad one?

 

As we can see, the so called good Jedi are not actually good in the story like those Jedi council, and Dark Jedi not actually bad like Revan. And the Force actually have nothing to do with being good or bad, it's just our decisions. So i got this idea of making a contradiction character, but how want to escape earning DS/LS points in doing bad/good to reach max, and how to reach max DS/LS without being evil/good? I don't want a grey character

 

Just want to prove that "kowledge is not inherently good or evil but how you use it"

Edited May 28, 2014 by Qistina

[keyannmoraff]

i usually play LS, since i prefer Mira over Hanharr, and thinking your idea thru, i only see this viable when meeting the jedi masters in each planet.. LS killing council, or DS and leaving them be.

 

that is only possible in your so-hated TOR, being LS sith and scumbag jedi

 

you are just a force user that will result in a jedi or dark jedi,... for that, you will have to roleplay in your mind

just keep ur save editor open while you play so you change the points

[Qistina]

LS and DS points are given when we do good or evil...but from what i understand of the philosophy behind it, actually have nothing to do with good or evil. LS and DS are just forces that drive something, pasive or active. Many situations where i see there is confusions regarding LS and DS, mechanically and storywise

 

Example, if the player character use agressive dialogue, get DS pints but many LS characters use agressive dialogues and agressive behavior and they still LS. Bastila is arrogant, proud and agressive character, she maintain LS until get captured by Malak. Exile use Mind Trick to make two gangster jump to death for helping a guy but get DS point, but how much Force powers being used to kill people don't get DS points? What's the difference?

 

LS= good DS= bad is absurd actually, we can see clearly the Jedi Council is BAD...they mind wiped Revan and injecting false memories, just imagine that, mind wipe someone and making that someone somebody else...isn't that evil? Why they are LS? Jedi Council in KotOR 2 are also bad, they clearly bunch of annoying arrogants...

 

In KotOR if we betray Gadon we get DS points, but in the end Brejik turn on us and we have to kill him, thus destroying the whole gang in Undercity...isn't that LS? We destroy the whole gangsters of Taris both Black Vulkar and Hidden Beck...but we don't get LS points for that because the mechanic is "you betray, betray is bad, you get DS point"

[Qistina]

I found some way to do good in dark side way...actually there are a lot of opportunity for that rather than doing bad and psychotic all the way.  That is something unique about this game compared to KotOR 1.

 

Example, we assume helping Ithorian is "light side quest", but actually it isn't. There are more dark side option there than helping Czerka.

 

We also assume killing the Jedis is dark side, but actually it is not. So i dcided not killing them for better result. And actually gather them and to be killed by Kreia is "dark side" isn't it?

 

And as i found out there are more dark side points in an act that is not actually evil act, such as in Dxun, we got quest to search for the patrol, just say we kill them we got dark side point, even if we say we don't want to kill them, we kill them anyway...

 

We got more dark side points from dialogues rather than actions, for me dialogues means nothing, action does, so i can say bad things but not doing evil, if that makes any sense...

 

Furthermore, get defeated by "Revan" will get dark side points, so i intentionally get defeated by "Revan"...

 

Edit : Oh about Ithorian quest, we did STEAL B4D4 isn't it? Funnily the Czerka also said ask the same thing, that is stealing Ithorian droid....

Edited June 22, 2014 by Qistina

[Nilus]

I don't know if this have been discussed before, but have anyone try this? Play as Dark Jedi but always do good, play as Jedi but always do bad, for each get maximum DS and LS points in doing the paradox?

 

Is it possible?

 

It is because of doing good will earn LS point and doing evil will earn DS point, how i want to play a max DS point character but actually a good character and in contra max LS point character but a bad one?

 

As we can see, the so called good Jedi are not actually good in the story like those Jedi council, and Dark Jedi not actually bad like Revan. And the Force actually have nothing to do with being good or bad, it's just our decisions. So i got this idea of making a contradiction character, but how want to escape earning DS/LS points in doing bad/good to reach max, and how to reach max DS/LS without being evil/good? I don't want a grey character

 

Just want to prove that "kowledge is not inherently good or evil but how you use it"

Wow, that makes my head hurt just thinking reading it.

 

Yes, you can do the Czerka quests as light side and the Ithorian quest as darkside. It kinda makes the whole game more interesting in my opinion, but I never join Czerka cause I can't stand Lorso.

 

Kotor 2 gives you more room for choice in the DS/LS area's then  Kotor 1, makes it more interesting and gives more reasons to replay it, (I personally play the gray-but-light-leaning-slightly-lucrative-and-bloodthirsty-Jedi.)

 

As to your question, yes, I do believe you can be a light Sith or a Dark Jedi in Kotor 2.

 

Oh, and we did not STEAL B4D4, we BORROWED him, *wink wink*

[Qistina]

To think about it, the Ithorian is actually draining Republic credits with their project, since Peragus is destroyed, it is even worse. If the Exile direct Telos into buying oil from the Hut, according to Goto, the Republic will bankrupt in the long run. So helping the Ithorian is actually bad isn't it? But if our intention is to weaken the Republic then help the Ithorian and make business with the Hutt

 

About B4D4, after we steal him, he's programmed to lie....and the Ithorian just let him free. He's also accompanied with a crazy droid with gun.

 

Czerka maybe look evil but they have their own resources, they are businessmen, they always know how to handle situations and make profit. Yes in the end they turn Telos into machine planet but this machine planet know how to defend against attacks.

 

Similar with other quests, helping Vaklu is actually good because Onderon now have a capable ruler with their military, even Mandalore approve it. Onderon under Vaklu can stand against Mandalorians should they being attacked. Helping Talia making Onderon always rely on the Republic, they only depend on Republic strength and following Republic whim. The Republic is at the weakest state, if Republic fall, it drag Onderon with it. If the Republic stand, Onderon always paying debt to the Republic.

 

Similar with Dantooine, helping the mercenaries actually making Dantooine stronger. As we can see Dantooine peoples are actually bad, they hate Jedi and their economy is grave robbery. All the peoples you meet are actually bad and selfish. They even want to kill or sell you to the Exchange if they can. Better give Dantoine to Azkul, he and his men have weapons and can provide security to Dantooine, and they didn't rob Jedi enclave

 

Just a thought