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I kind of missed the point I was trying to make there. My original plan was to buy something a bit more serious - and by that I mean larger and bulkier. Something like a Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro, Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga, or a Dell XPS 12 (in about that order). They're 13.3", 12.5" and 12.5" respectively and are more 'traditional' convertibles in the sense that they're notebooks first and foremost - the opposite of the machine I'm typing this on. Each is a traditional chassis with the guts in the lower half, and none have any detachable bits. (The Lenovo machines feature 360-degree hinges, while the Dell has a flippable screen. This means the former two will have the keyboard exposed on the flip-side when in tablet mode, whereas the Dell will have the keys hidden away. The Thinkpad Yoga at least locks the keys rigid when in tablet mode, however.)

 

Anyway, now armed with some idea of what a more tablet-skewed device is like, I'm probably going to press ahead with my original plan sometime early next year. This device I will likely relegate as a toy I can leave at the office, or I might give it to my sister.

 

A tangential dilemma is that I'm also in the market for a traditional 14-15" notebook, but I want to try to avoid buying the same brand as the convertible. Which is tricky because I rather like the look of the Thinkpad T440s (or even T440/p and T540p). The alternative here would probably be the Dell XPS 15 with its interesting 3k display.



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I need a 10'' netbook, but decent reviews of more recent models are hard to come by for some reason... I'd welcome any advice, because so far I'm using this as my guide:

http://www.tomshardw...nce,2751-3.html



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I'd look at the new Bay Trail Atom-based ones, they're a significant improvement over the last gen efforts. Asus' T100 Book comes to mind. Or for something technically not a netbook, the Kabini-based subnotebooks look to be interesting, such as the Lenovo E145. http://www.notebookc...k.103235.0.html And something I've only recently noticed, the Dell Inspiron 3000 11" looks promising too with a Haswell-derived Pentium CPU.

Edited by Humanoid, 14 November 2013 - 07:00 AM.

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hmmm, that Lenovo E145 does look very tempting. I'll keep an eye out for one of these, thanks



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Just updated my Nexus 7 to Android 4.4 Kit Kat. Also hacked in the Nexus 5 launcher for the cool transparent nav-bars

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So here in Australia, some vendors have banded together and tried to create a sort of lame version of the US's Black Friday sales. Generally there's nothing too interesting on, but Lenovo have joined in the fun, with an impressive 35% off the newly released T440s, which I'd been looking desirously for a while. Unfortunately the discount only applies to their top-spec version, which no doubt has higher margins, but it nonetheless takes that top spec to a full $200 cheaper than the entry level spec. Obviously I couldn't resist, so I've just placed an order for:

i7-4600U, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 1080p IPS display, for $1800 (down from $2450); as opposed to:

i5-4300U, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 900p TN display, for $2000. (I know that's a ridiculously inflated price for those specs, but this is Australia we're talking about)


Yeah, no brainer. Even with the pointless CPU upgrade, which is normally a $300+ option which I wouldn't even pretend to consider (Indeed I'd downgrade immediately to the 4300U for a $200 cut if it were possible). Added a few things to the former spec which bumped the price a little - digitiser, backlit keyboard, wireless-ac; but it still comes under the 2k mark. That and they also have a $1 Android tablet promo (which I will be giving away). It's a pretty ordinary dual-core tablet, but hey, it's one buck.

The only competition to the machine I was considering was the Dell XPS15, but that's had mixed early feedback and while Dell are participating in this sale event, the model is not included. Happy to not have to think about it in the end.

Edited by Humanoid, 18 November 2013 - 06:44 PM.


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It creates a secondary dilemma for me though. The other machine that I want is, as stated previously, a ~12-13" convertible. The brand-new Thinkpad Yoga is available on sale, $200 off, but only on the anemic base model: from $1300 to $1100. That's with a non-turbo CPU (fine with me), 768p display (unacceptable, but at least it's IPS still), 4GB RAM (ehh) and a 500GB spindle drive (ridiculous).

Speccing it up to acceptable levels would cost an extra $500, or $400 should I opt to go without the factory SSD and install one myself from a third party (and end up with a spare 2.5" HDD to use for ...something). The result would be a machine that costs about the same as the $1550 mid-spec, but with 4GB more RAM and a doubling of SSD space to 256GB. I could forgo the turbo CPU upgrade and save $100, but I think it's probably worth it.

Proposed spec: i5-4200, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 1080p IPS display. ~$1600. Nowhere near a straightforward decision. One competitor is Lenovo's own IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro, which is not yet available locally but comes with an interesting 13.3" 3k display and should be marginally cheaper though less solidly built.

The other is Dell's XPS 12, which happens to be on sale now, for the same price and essentially the same or slightly better spec: i7-4500U as compared to the i5-4200U, same 12.5" display (likely literally the same), same RAM, same SSD capacity.

Based on the machines themselves, I'd probably go the Thinkpad as the more robust device, plus it has a WACOM digitiser. But besides the CPU bump, the Dell also has in support of it a better support experience (Lenovo's support is notoriously iffy here). Dell's keyboard is inferior, but is hidden away in tablet mode, which makes it a bit of a wash in that regard. And on a personal note, it's probably sensible not to put all my eggs in one basket and opt for alternative vendors for my two machines. Gaaa, this is confusing.

Same price, $1600 each, which to get?

Thinkpad Yoga
+ Better build quality
+ Better keyboard feel (plus Trackpoint)
+ Wacom digitiser stylus
- 360-degree hinge means keyboard exposed at back of machine when in tablet mode, though keys are locked and immobile
- I might prefer the larger and higher-res Yoga 2 Pro display if it ever gets a local release

Dell XPS 12
+ Upgraded CPU
+ Screen hinge hides keyboard internally in tablet mode
+ Better local warranty support
+ Different vendor to my other machine
- I might prefer the larger and higher-res Yoga 2 Pro display if it ever gets a local release

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went ahead and bought this thing (Xenium W6500):

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looked good on paper for the price (250$), so I figured it was probably the best offer I'd see in a while. so far I've been fully satisfied with its performance. will have to dive deeper into this whole Android thing eventually to uncover its full potential...


Edited by sorophx, 06 December 2013 - 01:14 PM.


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Something altogether more low-tech, been using this Nokia 515 for a week. Had to import it from Germany as it's not presently available locally - picked the white one. Why this? I'd become unsatisfied with the battery of my older dumbphone, a Nokia 6300, which used to reliably last a week, but now manages a bit over half that. This? Well I didn't even fully charge this when I got it a full week ago, where the battery was showing three bars. Now it's showing two bars.

 

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Objectively, it's bloody overpriced for what it is, being about double the price of the next model down. But I'm happy with the purchase because no one else is doing this sort of thing.



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Got the Nvidia Shield for Xmas, I never really thought much of it until I tried streaming all my pc games to it myself, and just wow there is no lag at all (unlike tablet remote desktops), it feels very next gen, like I'm playing on a futuristic gameboy

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I have an iPhone 4. I've treated it so badly that I'm ashamed to post pictures of it. I bought it in '09, I think. I browse the net on it more than I do on my PC. I have no plans on buying a new phone until it completely dies on me.

 

I don't know if portable gaming devices count, but I have some of those, too.



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I ve got Iphone 5 and it is awesome. Portable games runs well.



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I recently bought a Mi Pad. It's awesome.

 

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It's a Tegra K1 device (the world's first pad with Tegra K1) and my pad scores 42000 Antutu points. Which is phenomenal.

 

2GB ram, 64GB eMMC, Micro-SD memory slot (I have a 64 GB card, so 128 GB altogether), IPS screen with 2048x1536 resolution, 6700 mAh battery.

 

It's the same size as an iPad Mini but performance is better. It also has surprising stamina. I've been using it for hours on end, playing Baldur's Gate and watching movies and it just keeps going. Well worth the $385 I paid for it (including freight and ****ing toll).


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Now how long before the lawsuit...?

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I have no clue why everyone keeps saying that. They use the same screen, but that's it. (iPad screen is made by LG, Mi Pad is made by Sharp)



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Technical details be damned, it has rounded corners and has the letter i and the word 'pad' in it.


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I left it on my bed in the morning. Got back home right now. The battery meter says 97% left and 11:29 since last charge. This thing has ridiculous stamina! I LOVE IT

 

Although I must say (wrong thread, I know) that I will never understand the love Baldur's Gate gets. It's sooo mind-numbingly slow! And controlling the party is like trying to herd a gang of blind retards through a narrow doorway EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. I can't believe people put up with that **** for so many years!



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I hook Cheat Engine to pretty every singleplayer game I play and have hotkeys enabled to multiply the game's speed to specific levels to get past that sort of thing, so...uh...lol



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Nice Mi Pad!! I just recently picked up an Nvidia Shield Tablet that also has Tegra K1 (so I'm selling my 2013 32GB Nexus 7). This thing has a 1080p 8 inch screen, and can play HL2 and Doom 3 on max gfx settings, which is pretty sweet. Also compatible with Gamestream so I can stream all my controller enabled PC games to my coffee table

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