Nepenthe Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Acti haven't 0'd Raven yet? Bobby K's outlook alerts must be acting up. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Old news, but really read-worthy for all EU gamers on these boards... Feel free to spread the news and post on Steam boards, that in EU the customers still have the right of the First Sale on software ...The European Court of Justice has ruled that customers have a right to resell software they purchase regardless of whether the software was originally distributed on a physical medium or downloaded over the Internet.... Limitations However, the CJEU did place two limitations on the resale rights, both of which apply to what UsedSoft has been doing. In cases where the 'first acquirer' had bought a licence covering more users than needed, the court said they could not then divide the licence and "resell only part of it". "Furthermore, the Court states that an original acquirer of a tangible or intangible copy of a computer program for which the copyright holder's right of distribution is exhausted must make the copy downloaded onto his own computer unusable at the time of resale," the CJEU added. http://arstechnica.c...oaded-software/ So if you have purchased some games over Steam, which you did not enjoyed as much as marketing has said to you, or you feel that you have been cheated by 6 hours singleplayer for 60EUR, it should be legal to sell that piece of software in European Union. And if you like lawyer talk, here is the link to the InfoCuria - Case-law of the Court of Justice: http://curia.europa....t=1&cid=5213884 Edited July 24, 2012 by Mamoulian War Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmp10 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Old news, but really read-worthy for all EU gamers on these boards... Feel free to spread the news and post on Steam boards, that in EU the customers still have the right of the First Sale on software It has been discussed before. Until Valve/EA lose a major court case over this nothing changes. The whole ruling will likely prove meaningless anyway. The time to fight for right of resale was when developers declared their software a licensable service instead of a product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/07/25/avellone-tempted-to-kickstart-planescape-2-do-it/ OK fan-persons, squeegasm to your hearts content. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 i'll believe it when i see it, but if the kickstarter does open up, then yeah, i'm going to be all over it just thinking about it makes me want to replay torment... Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 "Windows 8 is kind of a catastrophe", says Gabe Newell "Mr. Newell! Are you excited about the upcoming Windows 8 OS?" ... Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Well yeah, I'm sure the win8 app store and native Live integration has nothing to do with it. If MS goes full Apple- pretty much inevitable now that its closed system is so successful- steam is dead on windows medium term and Gabe knows it. I do wonder how many steam fans would actually switch to Linux if told to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sannom Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 So if you have purchased some games over Steam, which you did not enjoyed as much as marketing has said to you, or you feel that you have been cheated by 6 hours singleplayer for 60EUR, it should be legal to sell that piece of software in European Union. Not necessarily. The case that was judged was very specific : an unlimited licence that could be applied to a software which was otherwise completely free to download. You have to pay the game before downloading it with Steam. And they could bypass it by limiting the licence's duration, even if extend it is free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 http://www.rockpaper...escape-2-do-it/ OK fan-persons, squeegasm to your hearts content. See? This is what I was saving my money for. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 http://www.rockpaper...escape-2-do-it/ OK fan-persons, squeegasm to your hearts content. I am not excited. The game was "complete" in my book and i do not see a reason to do a sequel. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 A new Plancescape game at this point would be pointless. They should have made a sequel ~10 years ago when people wanted it, but thanks to publisher shenannigans this never came to fruition. Also, who would develop this? This isn't Obsidian doing a kickstarter, but an individual. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I somehow think that more people want it today than 10 years ago. Simply because of hype and nostalgia. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I somehow think that more people want it today than 10 years ago. Simply because of hype and nostalgia. Nostalgia doesn't work with me - it tends to severely disappoint. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I'm going to jump ship as soon as Linux becomes an actual alternative rather than a mostly theoretical one. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Crysis 3 semi-interactive trailer Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 New Dishonored gameplay video Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Crysis 3 semi-interactive trailer Somehow doesn't work for me. I don't see the boxes to click on. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Crysis 3 semi-interactive trailer Somehow doesn't work for me. I don't see the boxes to click on. Try to check whether you have the latest Adobe Flash player installed? Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I just watched it normally. Probably going to play Crysis 3, simply because of the bow, as I am a bow shooter myself and it is just damn cool. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blodhemn Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) It looks great graphically, as expected, but man, could they integrate an anymore uninspired story? I was bored of those voice actors/characters in Crysis 1 already. I'll pick it up once it reaches the bargin bin for it's tech. Also, didn't they say they were going back to sandbox gameplay like Far Cry and Crysis 1 to an extent? It looks more like Crysis 2 from the preview. Edited July 26, 2012 by Blodhemn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I somehow think that more people want it today than 10 years ago. Simply because of hype and nostalgia. Nostalgia doesn't work with me - it tends to severely disappoint. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 crysis 1 and 2 were both mediocre at best, im definitely skipping this Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition news. http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/2009/post-if-you-just-pre-ordered-countdown-spoilers 1 new adventure, 3 new characters, a monk, a wild mage, and a blackguard. Ready for pre-order, releases in September on the 18th. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition news. http://forum.baldurs...ntdown-spoilers 1 new adventure, 3 new characters, a monk, a wild mage, and a blackguard. Ready for pre-order, releases in September on the 18th. ... and the official site with the pictures and all is completely hammered. Again. Looks like I'll have to get the PC version, too, so that I can show my support for the project. It's not like I haven't bought this game 3-4 times already, what's another 3. Edit: each of the characters comes with an adventure, too. Edited July 26, 2012 by Nepenthe You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Baldur's Gate. That BioWare RPG with no romances. Well, now it has them. Well done Beamdog. Well done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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