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[Nines]

GR: It's great that you can take an IP that's not original but you can do something completely different and fresh and new.

FU: There actually is another game that I can't talk about at all.

GR: Are you sure?

FU: No, I'll get killed, but it's a licensed product but it's a licensed product that when people hear about it they're going to be "well you had to do that. there's no option, if I was a developer and I was offered that I would just do it.

I've heard that it may be a new WoD game - Vampire the Requiem. Can someone at least refute these rumors?

[C2B]

GR: It's great that you can take an IP that's not original but you can do something completely different and fresh and new.

FU: There actually is another game that I can't talk about at all.

GR: Are you sure?

FU: No, I'll get killed, but it's a licensed product but it's a licensed product that when people hear about it they're going to be "well you had to do that. there's no option, if I was a developer and I was offered that I would just do it.

I've heard that it may be a new WoD game - Vampire the Requiem. Can someone at least refute these rumors?

That was South Park.

[PoetAndMadman]

But there's also another Secret Project, rumored to be a new IP.

[Pop]

From a minute or two ago. Seems unlikely to be related to South Park, and VA stuff is generally worked out pretty late in development, right? Or is that just recording?

Anyway, just got some folks into Bloodlines so I'd kill to have another good White Wolf game but that seems a bit unlikely given the sorry state of White Wolf as a company and the Vampire MMO (though maybe Activision still has rights?). More importantly, it's been outright stated that Josh's project is an original IP, possibly the "Like Tolkien if Sauron won" universe Feargus talked up once a year or two back.

Edited by Pop, 25 January 2012 - 09:08 PM.

[C2B]

But there's also another Secret Project, rumored to be a new IP.

If we take this comment by Feargus to be the same one. Yes.

The ultimate goal for a lot of studios making sequels is to finally jump off and work on their own original IP. Does Obsidian ever want to take that jump? "Absolutely," confirms Urquhart, before going on to say that Obsidian already has an original IP title underway. "We have a whole big cool world idea that we can hopefully talk about soon. That is a whole new world, a whole new thing. It's being put together by Josh Sawyer, who was the project director on Fallout New Vegas, and Chris Avellone is involved."

Anthony Davis

The secret project that Josh is the project director for ...

Edited by C2B, 26 January 2012 - 12:17 AM.

[Drudanae]

More importantly, it's been outright stated that Josh's project is an original IP, possibly the "Like Tolkien if Sauron won" universe Feargus talked up once a year or two back.

Mistborn RPG?

[C2B]

More importantly, it's been outright stated that Josh's project is an original IP, possibly the "Like Tolkien if Sauron won" universe Feargus talked up once a year or two back.

Might be. There's also that Josh went to Eidos Montreal last year and they talked with SQE about that project before too. Not to mention Josh's grim dialouge tweet.

[kirottu]

More importantly, it's been outright stated that Josh's project is an original IP, possibly the "Like Tolkien if Sauron won" universe Feargus talked up once a year or two back.

Mistborn RPG?

[Nonek]

Wouldn't the fact that the project is secret imply that the game in development is not an original IP? If I were Obsidian and pioneering a new property i'd be touting around every morsel of information I could possibly provide to drum up interest from fans and publishers. Then again i'm no expert on marketing, so maybe I have overlooked something and the game is not under wraps due to publisher stipulation.

[C2B]

Wouldn't the fact that the project is secret imply that the game in development is not an original IP? If I were Obsidian and pioneering a new property i'd be touting around every morsel of information I could possibly provide to drum up interest from fans and publishers. Then again i'm no expert on marketing, so maybe I have overlooked something and the game is not under wraps due to publisher stipulation.

Not really. New IP's seem to be kept just as much a secret by publishers as licensed products if not more.

Edited by C2B, 26 January 2012 - 07:55 AM.

[WorstUsernameEver]

I don't think Obsidian has quite that contractual power when it comes to approving marketing plans. If I were them, I'd probably try to learn from the Bethesda experience (their PR is some of the best of the industry, have to hand it to Pete Hines), and try to ask for something at least a little similar, check a little bit more what they do with the budget.

Of course, I never really got the chance to see one of their contracts, so these are pretty much just clueless assumptions.

[Nonek]

Ah that would explain it then, thank you C2B.

[Morgoth]

GDC seems like the right time to announce new stuff. If not, always count on E3 just to be disappointed that it doesn't show up there either.

[Sannom]

Isn't GDC the wrong event to expect news from? It is developer-centered and is more about the 'meta' aspect of game development than the announcement of new products and news about known ones.

Unless I'm confusing GDC with something else. GDC is the Game Developers Conference, right?

[Flouride]

I don't think they will announce it anytime soon if the publisher knows what they are doing. After all the game hasn't been in full development for that long. I would expect announcement late this year.

[Morgoth]

After all the game hasn't been in full development for that long.

How would you know? I don't think Josh & Co were just sitting around over a year after finishing NV and do nothing. Ferg mentioned once something about an XBLA game being released in early 2012? Well, is that still alive? Is that even Josh's project?

[Flouride]

How would you know? I don't think Josh & Co were just sitting around over a year after finishing NV and do nothing. Ferg mentioned once something about an XBLA game being released in early 2012? Well, is that still alive? Is that even Josh's project?

Yep, you are right they weren't just sitting around. For example they did the DLCs and some helped on DS3 and who knows how many of that team transferred to South Park team. I think it was Anthony Davis who wrote something about FNV and DS3 being the main reasons they got this project, since they could show how much it would cost them to make the game with Onyx and all that stuff. DS3 was finished some time last spring. To be able to show publishers both the finalized product (DS3) and the budget/resources it took for them to finish it, the game needs to be out. If we follow that logic that would mean the contract was signed last summer/fall and that's when full development most likely started.

XBLA = Project Virginia
Josh = Project North Carolina

Edited by Flouride, 27 January 2012 - 12:01 AM.

[C2B]

How would you know? I don't think Josh & Co were just sitting around over a year after finishing NV and do nothing. Ferg mentioned once something about an XBLA game being released in early 2012? Well, is that still alive? Is that even Josh's project?

Yep, you are right they weren't just sitting around. For example they did the DLCs and some helped on DS3 and who knows how many of that team transferred to South Park team. I think it was Anthony Davis who wrote something about FNV and DS3 being the main reasons they got this project, since they could show how much it would cost them to make the game with Onyx and all that stuff. DS3 was finished some time last spring. To be able to show publishers both the finalized product (DS3) and the budget/resources it took for them to finish it, the game needs to be out. If we follow that logic that would mean the contract was signed last summer/fall and that's when full development most likely started.

Davis didn't actually say that. He didn't use the word "since" and so on but both of these things were seperated.

That Feargus Interview was in February 2011. Also if it actually turns out that SE is the publisher the DSIII comment makes perfect sense too.


That said the majority of the project team was likely formed after DSIII and the FNV:DLC's.

[Nines]

That was South Park.

Nope. I know about SP and Wheel of Time.
And this is not a new IP.

No, I'll get killed, but it's a licensed product

Edited by Nines, 27 January 2012 - 07:19 PM.

[WorstUsernameEver]

The mystery-licensed project Feargus was talking about was South Park.

P.S. : The game wasn't announced when Feargus gave that interview, the timing of the announcements matches (wanted to announced it at E3 but they ended up announcing it later in 2011, in December) and Feargus even used pretty much the same words when he commented that Parker & Stone came to Obsidian to ask them if they wanted to do the project. I don't remember where it was said that the other project is a new IP, C2B/Funcroc/Flouride would probably be able to tell you tho'.

Edited by WorstUsernameEver, 28 January 2012 - 01:11 AM.