Jump to content

Welcome to Obsidian Forum Community
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

Clearinghouse (Blackmarket) lag


  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1
Yourtoy

Yourtoy

    (0) Nub

  • Members
  • 1 posts
Every time I browse the clearinghouse I get amazing lag spikes, like when I buy anything it takes like 5 to 8 seconds of game freezing to actually buy the item, same thing when changing categories like from shotguns to rifles etc..

I've even re-installed my windows 7 (formating the hard drives) to test if the problem was my pc, but the delay are still there x_x

I don't think its my comp. I am running AP with a Phenon x4, 6gb ram and a gforce 9800gt

#2
cesko

cesko

    (3) Conjurer

  • Members
  • 149 posts
  • Location:Holland
  • Xbox Gamertag:Cesko
I have it too, it's torture, especially if you want to restock grenates, emp's, etc...

#3
Qerty

Qerty

    (0) Nub

  • Members
  • 2 posts
I have the same problem, but my PC is slower than his and the freeze time when buying stuff is like 30-40 seconds and it's really annoying. Later in the game I had to spend 10 minutes buying 64 bullets for the shotgun.

#4
Kasabian

Kasabian

    (3) Conjurer

  • Members
  • 110 posts
The problems mentioned does not seem to affect my version, it works well with no major slowdown. Sounds like some bad problems and would ruin gameplay, try the various .ini edits floating around the forum, it might help.

#5
Supreme Shogun

Supreme Shogun

    (1) Prestidigitator

  • Members
  • 25 posts
Well it's horrible bug that does exist for some. Myself included.
My system runs the game fine, except for the Clearinghouse is so Laggy and causes FPS go down to single digits.

Yes I have the latest audio and video drivers.

#6
Hassat Hunter

Hassat Hunter

    Royal Bug Catcher of the Obsidian Order

  • Members
  • 4778 posts
  • Location:Out there, somewhere...
  • Backer
  • Kickstarter Backer
Hmmm, does it still happen if you turn all the advanced graphics off (just for testing, you don't need to keep them off 24/7)?

#7
MarteenDee

MarteenDee

    (2) Evoker

  • Members
  • 55 posts
  • Location:Poland

Every time I browse the clearinghouse I get amazing lag spikes, like when I buy anything it takes like 5 to 8 seconds of game freezing to actually buy the item, same thing when changing categories like from shotguns to rifles etc..

I've even re-installed my windows 7 (formating the hard drives) to test if the problem was my pc, but the delay are still there x_x

I don't think its my comp. I am running AP with a Phenon x4, 6gb ram and a gforce 9800gt



Try to use some settings shown in this post.
I had similar problem and after altering textures and shadows caching it seems that initially there is some lag in Clearing House after opening every section (when everything is loaded), but after caching every section opens a lot smoother. Disc defrag helped a lot for me too for enormous lag after clicking "Buy" button. It's still present but not so annoying any more.

It seems that there's some terrible problem with accessing files and HD management by the game. I wonder if anyone with proper system and good amount of RAM could experiment with moving whole game into created RAM disk and check if that improves anything.

As a start I would compare disk access speeds between Kasabian and people who have issues with lag spikes.

Edited by MarteenDee, 09 June 2010 - 10:00 AM.


#8
Supreme Shogun

Supreme Shogun

    (1) Prestidigitator

  • Members
  • 25 posts
Just for giggles I tried the suggested tweaks to APgame.ini and it did ZERO for helping the Clearinghouse Lag. I believe what I am upset over is a huge loading time when the game itself doesn't say loading. The mouse freezes or AP does rather till the CH comes up. Same thing happens when selecting another line (going from pistols to smg to shotguns, etc. ). This is painful and very unacceptable. Along with the 5.1 sound issue and what causes the mouse look stuttering, these taken together makes the game disappointing and a big let down. Now I know why AP has gotten poor reviews its these problems in playing the PC version.


Also FYI: turning everything OFF under advanced won't do jack to help this problem either.

This is not tolerable.

#9
Hassat Hunter

Hassat Hunter

    Royal Bug Catcher of the Obsidian Order

  • Members
  • 4778 posts
  • Location:Out there, somewhere...
  • Backer
  • Kickstarter Backer
Well, only a minority is getting this issue, so I can assume why it slips through QA (as it's probably related to equipment setup and maintenance). Personally it loads for me within 0.1 sec, and buy is instantanious, no "lag".

Have you made ini tweaks to decrease the texture pop-up? Weapons, when selected first show their mesh, then get re-textured later. If done all at once, it would make more sense for each individual item to take longer to load in.

As usual; make sure your disk is defragmentated (C:/ and the drive where installed if not C:/) and have the latest drivers, aside from a large cachefile size for programs (and of course enough free space on the disk to support this, 2Gb should do). Does it still happen then?

Also, have you applied the ini tweaks against mouse-stuttering in the FAQ stickied on top (not the tweaks posted in this thread)?

Edited by Hassat Hunter, 09 June 2010 - 03:28 PM.


#10
Supreme Shogun

Supreme Shogun

    (1) Prestidigitator

  • Members
  • 25 posts
Perhaps I goofed something up when I altered my files. Copy/Pasting the file MartenDee provided fix my game.

Still this thing needs optimized better or ways to optimize it with better gui. My desire to tweak ini files is NIL.

#11
Supreme Shogun

Supreme Shogun

    (1) Prestidigitator

  • Members
  • 25 posts

Have you made ini tweaks to decrease the texture pop-up? Weapons, when selected first show their mesh, then get re-textured later. If done all at once, it would make more sense for each individual item to take longer to load in.

As usual; make sure your disk is defragmentated (C:/ and the drive where installed if not C:/) and have the latest drivers, aside from a large cachefile size for programs (and of course enough free space on the disk to support this, 2Gb should do). Does it still happen then?

Also, have you applied the ini tweaks against mouse-stuttering in the FAQ stickied on top (not the tweaks posted in this thread)?


My C: drive is kept as a system partition and I do not install games to it. My hard drives get optimized every night while I'm sleeping. I have 3GB ram system, intel e6600 core2duo, 1GB 4850 ATI vid card, win 7, 16gb Ramboost, 6gb HD cache. Not trying to brag, just pointing out that AP shouldn't hurt my system.

Also I had alter the audio found in the 5.1 fix thread, but have since gone to using Alchemy instead.

I recommend to anyone trying the optimizations given in the above link. AP performed a whole lot better.

#12
Havlok

Havlok

    (0) Nub

  • Members
  • 3 posts
MarteenDee: I tried all the fixes in post #20 and all that happened was it made the shop window and equipment and inventory screens completely white http://yfrog.com/mi28023556p (when I go to change Mikes hair, the screen looks similarily white and poorly shaded)
Switching between items on the same list has become quicker, but switching lists and buying items still have extremely long wait times. Also, in-game lag occurs, possibly at an even more frequent rate (every time I fire a burst from my AR, the game stutters)

It is almsot to the point where I'm goign to stop playing this game, which is a shame because the story and characters are all very interesting (I really like Sis and that russian chick with the SAW Machinegun (don't know her name yet))

#13
Havlok

Havlok

    (0) Nub

  • Members
  • 3 posts
okay, I did something which seems to have shaved a couple seconds off of the lag, despite the lag still being very noticable... I have an nVidia 260M card, so I went into the nVidia control panel and set the settings for High Performance vs. High quality, and I also turned of the nVidia Physx GPU Acceleration... then I went into the shop in AP and the wait time is notwmore like 7 seconds as opposed to 10... its still annoying, and maybe a fluke, but its sorta nice... not sure how it affects actual game play yet though

EDIT: Gamepaly remains unaffected, still major lagging when entering a new room or when in a gun fight, which is kind of a bad thing considering thats a majority of what you do in this game

Edited by Havlok, 11 June 2010 - 09:31 PM.


#14
adre76

adre76

    (0) Nub

  • Members
  • 1 posts
At the begining, my game was fast and everything ran smooth, including Clearinghouse.
But then windows update kicked in, and shutdown my computer to update. When it restarted, Alpha protocol wouldn't run, so I reinstaled it, and everything worked well....
Until i got to clearinghouse. I needed ammo for the assault rifle, and i found out (the hard way) that it would take almost 3 minutes to buy 200 rounds.
Maybe it is a update in windows that causes it.

#15
Kenjifujima

Kenjifujima

    (0) Nub

  • Members
  • 2 posts
I recommend everyone to try the optimizations presented in the above link. AP performed much better.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users