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well written characters


hadn't expect anything else, I found the characters of Kotor 2 also very interesting, very dark and with great background stories.

What can I expect when I'm going to play nwn2 (with expansions too), can somebody pm me about it, cause I'm curious.



DQFT - Dfor double :)

Sie is amazing. Punish me baby LOL.

Mina and Madison are like flowers if you commit a mistake with them you will feel their thorns.

Scarlet - A mysterious sexy lady.

Heck - crazy , funny and unpredictable.

Darcy - a guy that you want to execute after know him.

Parker - Mr. know-it-all that you will hate easily.

Albatross/Marburg/Leland - great characters that add intrigue to the story.

Brakio - Say hello to my little friend...the Scarface of AP . Best boss fight in the game although can be a lil frustrating.

Deng - A mysterious and powerful enemy ; the best competence that a good spy can have.

Grigory - love headaches.

Nasri / Shaahed - Interact with them in the beginning is a good experience.

Sis - a char that you want to know more. Seems fragile but isn't.

Gelato guy - disgusting. Nice scene in the game.

Sung - Stubburn.

Jbara - guilt or not guilty.

Championchik (bodyguard)/ Shaahed Elite boss (forget his name) - this guys for some reasons reminds me the first 2 movies of Indiana Jones . When one enemy show Indy his sword and Indi shoot him; Whe indy fight with the strong bald guy in the airport.

The boss of championchik (forgot his name) - the only chars that i don't like .

Hong Shi - a great ally if you play good your cards.

Westridge - a nasty leader that you want to slap .

Mike -Empathy is his last name.... need take a Spionage Seminar with Heck LOL.

Edited by Alpha, 05 June 2010 - 08:46 AM.


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I liked that huge conspiracy theory email that Heck sends you and the aggressive response.

"Dear Steven Heck, shut the **** up. Thanks"

Pick the option that's for humoring him. It's funny as heck because you give him some stupid conspiracy theory and he turns around and believes everything you say and sends you an "OMG!" styled email.

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I liked that huge conspiracy theory email that Heck sends you and the aggressive response.

"Dear Steven Heck, shut the **** up. Thanks"

Pick the option that's for humoring him. It's funny as heck because you give him some stupid conspiracy theory and he turns around and believes everything you say and sends you an "OMG!" styled email.


Does he actually believe it, or is it all just banter? I have a feeling Heck just places huge value on a good sense of humor.

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I liked that huge conspiracy theory email that Heck sends you and the aggressive response.

"Dear Steven Heck, shut the **** up. Thanks"

Pick the option that's for humoring him. It's funny as heck because you give him some stupid conspiracy theory and he turns around and believes everything you say and sends you an "OMG!" styled email.


Does he actually believe it, or is it all just banter? I have a feeling Heck just places huge value on a good sense of humor.

He believes it... he literally comes back and says "I knew you were the perfect guy! I hadn't thought about that connection you made! I sahll now investigate it!"

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I liked that huge conspiracy theory email that Heck sends you and the aggressive response.

"Dear Steven Heck, shut the **** up. Thanks"

Pick the option that's for humoring him. It's funny as heck because you give him some stupid conspiracy theory and he turns around and believes everything you say and sends you an "OMG!" styled email.


Does he actually believe it, or is it all just banter? I have a feeling Heck just places huge value on a good sense of humor.

He believes it... he literally comes back and says "I knew you were the perfect guy! I hadn't thought about that connection you made! I sahll now investigate it!"


I realize this, I've sent that email.

I think it's all a joke. I don't think Heck is actually supposed to believe that crap. It seems more his personality to play along with it as a joke.

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I liked most of the characters, with Albatross/Sis and Brayko getting shout-outs.

Albatross was my favorite handler, and Brayko my favorite boss.

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I liked most of the characters, with Albatross/Sis and Brayko getting shout-outs.

Albatross was my favorite handler, and Brayko my favorite boss.

If you save him you avoid the final final boss fight in Moscow.

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First playthrough I did, I could talk with Surkov at Moloteck, make a deal without fighting Championchik and shooting Surkov in his leg. So you can avoid the final boss fight in Moscow even if you kill Brayko.

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I like the convo that Mike have with Mina if execute her.

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First playthrough I did, I could talk with Surkov at Moloteck, make a deal without fighting Championchik and shooting Surkov in his leg. So you can avoid the final boss fight in Moscow even if you kill Brayko.


Yeah, I too choose the 'talk with Surkov' route, and I killed Brayko of course.

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Heck and Brayko are the best in terms of hilarity. If you spare Brayko and then pick the "Brayko" dialogue option when confronting Surkov, you'll be treated to one of the funniest scenes in the game. "Championchik is busy winning gold medal in dying", delivered with that russian accent is pure win.

I thought most the characters were decent enough, though the great ones were mostly the funny ones. I liked Hong Shi a lot, especially if you take an aggressive stance with him when you talk to him the first time (which wont make him dislike you anyway). SIE was good fun as well.

Other than that, Marburg and Leland were good villains (not great, but good, as I kind of want to see a villain who can also display some vulnerabilities and come across as something else than an ice cold psycopath), Mina was alright, and so was mostly the rest of the cast, with the exception of Omen Deng who should've had more screen time as he is the best character in AP, easily. He was the only person in AP who was a complete bad ass without being over the top.

As for all the love that's shown here for Albatross and Sis, I disagree. They didn't really do anything, and Albatross was, well, boring. To each his own, though.

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I somewhat agree on Albatross. I liked him well enough but he didn't turn out to be a favorite (which I'd expected him to be actually). Sis? Interesting concept with a mute character but I can't say I get the fanboyism.

Other than that, Marburg and Leland were good villains (not great, but good, as I kind of want to see a villain who can also display some vulnerabilities and come across as something else than an ice cold psycopath)


Actually, I think they *have* vulnerabilities which is what makes them great, even though it might be hard to "unlock" in the game. Pissing Marburg off at the museum and killing him there is one of the most satisfying things in the game because of the fact that he appears to be the stone-cold killer that has everything under control. Similarily, you can also convince him to abandon Leland at the end of the game.

Leland doesn't show much weakness in the dialogues. You can get the drop on him at least once as he won't know if you spared Shaheed. But again, I think the confrontation with Leland at the end (love that he just gives up if you get up to his room) is made extremely satisfying since he's such a smug bastard. The "how *dare* you hit me?!" line is just so damn great because it's finally Mike who's in control. He also scores points in my book because he's a villain that you can actually join (and you can betray him as well).

Definitely agree that Omen Deng should've had more screen-time. His whole concept is extremely bad-ass and his reveal at the subway station (the music helps a lot) is awesome. I also think it'd be nice to have Hong Shi in a larger role, some simple but really great lines from him as well. "Oh and Mr Thorton... Beware of the man called Omen Deng." Love the delivery on that.

Edited by Starwars, 13 June 2010 - 10:40 AM.


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I just finished Rome while I had 10 reputation with Marburg.
The entire conversation changed, and I really liked how it played out.
He didn't want to fight, (the fight was unavoidable anyways), and not out of fear, but because he didn't want to kill me, nor the authorities to get me. (Overconfident much? ;) )
Again, it showed another side of the character.

And that's a wonderful thing about this game, every different reputation level shows a different side with whole new conversation sets. At some cases, at least.

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"He brought his fists to a gunfight."

Lol, Championchik.

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Mina, Surkov, Brayko, Sis, Albatross, Heck and Grigori would be my favorite characters.

As far as conversations go, I enjoyed every single one with Leland and of course, everything to do with Heck.

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OK.. time to list my favorite characters of the game.
I must admit, MCA and co did a very good job with archetypes here : they're not Obsidian's best character, but they have layers, depth, they may not be what they seem at first, they have an interesting past, they react at almost everything you do (and that's what made them live and breath for me)...... and awesome voice acting to boot.

Characters that were simply... AWESOME

Steven Heck - .... I'm not sure if he's the most intelligent and unpredictable agent ever, always covering his moves under absurd conspiracy theories, or he really believes all that stuff. Either way, he's really incredibly talented, and I wouldn't want to EVER meet him in combat.. I'm pretty sure he would rape all the other bosses without problems. :thumbsup:

Marburg - He's the type of villain we all like to hate. Calculating, professional, almost respectful and admiring (at least when it came to my professional, duty-driven, pragmatic Thorton) in some instances, I feel I'll need another couple of playthroughs before really seeing the totality of his character. His backstory makes him a sort of anti-Thorton, giving your fights against him a dramatic edge other bosses lack.... super chain shot Mike Thorton always wins though. :)

Leland - His character concept is simple, but the dialogue and voice acting are so well executed that he comes alive and becomes believable. The 'flashback conversation' with him was definitely one of the best moments in the game, and paradoxically I gained his respect by being his opposite. Kicking the crap out of him was OH SO SATISFYING.

Omen Deng - He deserved more screen time. Professional, good background, awesome boss fight, incredibly cool character design and great voice acting. The cutscene when he lets his cape fall is pretty much the definition of awesome.

Characters that grew on me

Mina Tang - She initially seemed vanilla.. a decent character, but nothing special. But somehow, her interactions with Mike, her dossier, everything well... they made her better. By the end of the game I had the feeling she was a pretty good character.. not one of my favorites though.

Scarlet Lake - I liked her since the beginning.... well, I have a thing for redheads. o:) But the reveal towards the end casted the character in a totally different light and made some events make much more sense.

Darcy - I expected more from him as a character, a sort of rival relationship throughout the whole game... still, his boss fight redeemed him and the last interactions you have with him sort of redeemed him. Untapped potential as a villain, but still a fun character.

.. and the only meh character of the game, according to WorstUsernameEver is.....

THE PORNSTAR! MADISON ST. JAMES! - Really... she sort of didn't fit the game. Not so interesting dialogues, so and so voice acting, and you can understand me if I let her die without thinking about it much.

EDIT : Of course, a lot of the characters deserve mention, even some minor ones (like Hong Shi and Championchik) but I felt these, for a reason, were the one who caught my attention.

2nd EDIT : Favorite convo? Leland flashback convo and Marburg café convo HANDS DOWN.

Edited by WorstUsernameEver, 14 June 2010 - 02:45 AM.


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Marburg scared the **** out of me when I first met him. That conversation at the café was terrifying.

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In defense of Madison: Did you guys even try to piss her off? Did you ever read "Tess of the D'Ubervilles?" My position has always been that it's four hundred pages of horrible, spineless whining and two pages of awesome at the end. Similarly, no matter how insipid Madison seems, it's all worth it when she beats the ever living crap out of Mike.

I like a woman who snaps and tries to kill me, unsuspecting. Don't you?

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I love the news summary you get when you let Brayko live but don't bring him to help with Surkov.

The news quotes his description of the perpetrator of the assault on his mansion as "an [expletive] American commando cowboy, like the [expletive] offspring of [expletive] Ronald Reagan and an [expletive] American ninja."

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Marburg scared the **** out of me when I first met him. That conversation at the café was terrifying.


Although it was unnerving, the understand that Michael Thorton and Conrad Marburg reach between each other is quite interesting. It was like seeing two very similar people, past and present, one working for an unnaccountable government program and the other working for a near unnacountable business, both believing in carrying out their orders. Despite their understanding, they both attempt to carry out their mission.

In this sense, turning him against Leland felt so satisfying. Turning Leland's "Chief of Security" meant he lost his bodyguard.

Edited by jokerwoker, 18 June 2010 - 10:44 PM.





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