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What, no Civilization IV?

Loses points in the "groundbreaking" area (unlike, say, Alpha Centauri), and how it is remembered will probably be heavily influenced by how the inevitable Civilization V is received. But it certainly earns mucho points for overall excellence.


I second Civ IV.

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1. It demonstrated, to the growing masses of console gamers, that atmosphere and character (through the voice snippets) can make a game better than just having flashy halo action.


I'd argue that while Bioshock is certainly more intellectual than Halo, as far as an actual game goes that's still just all flash. The gameplay in Bioshock was a severe disappointment.

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Oh, anyway:

STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines

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Roleplaying Games:
Mask of the Betrayer
The Witcher
Bloodlines
Mass Effect
Jade Empire

Shooters:
Portal
Prey
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl

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WoW will be for sure... I played it for 4 years and now i think about it as boring quest hub, but the impact on MMO gaming and playerbase, will be remembered for very very long time...

God of War

i bet Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 will be written with golden letters into classic aswell...

Witcher was an awesome game, but it will be classic only amongst CRPG fans, people outside of this niche, will more likely go with Mass Effect, which i think is CRPG abomination... But classic does not have to be classic for mainstream audience... What do you think how many people outside CRPG community thinks that BG is a classic :))

Final Fantasy X is the most talked about FF game after FFVII, so this might become classic aswell (but i think it's out of 5 year bounds)

i think i can aggree with Beyond Good and Evil with you... althought i never played it got few friends who were in love with this game and praised it a lot...

And to Purkake: Selling millions of copies does not mean that the game will become a classic... If that would be true, that it would mean that New Kids on the Block are prime example of classic music which shall be remembered for eternity... And anyone who thinks that should be burned alive and buried under the sea surface...

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I think that Mirrors Edge might be seen in the future as a star for the First Person Platformer Genre.

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As much as I'd love to cram an adventure game into the list of new classics, I just can't think of a good one that came out in the past 4 years... Dreamfall could've been it but wasted it all.

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And to Purkake: Selling millions of copies does not mean that the game will become a classic... If that would be true, that it would mean that New Kids on the Block are prime example of classic music which shall be remembered for eternity... And anyone who thinks that should be burned alive and buried under the sea surface...


I'm sorry, I thought this was about video games. Also, it's just correlation.

Someone suggested Prey, why? It's pretty much the definition of a mediocre derivative shooter.

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Virimor: Yes, I have to agree that while there has been more than a few good adventures like Ceville, Secret Files and so on, there hasn't been a game that you can call classic since TLJ. I'm still not completely sure what makes it that striking but it was.

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Well, here is what I think (or is it what I would like?) will be a classic. I only list games that I played.

Role playing games

The Witcher : good universe and story, memorable protagonist, more mature themes than in your average game, developer's dedication to its fans, long-term choices.

Neverwinter Nights 2 & add-ons : this is only if Obsidian really expands on what they did in the expansions for their next full-blown classical RPG. Perks linked to your reputations with your allies, overland map, character-focused story, etc.


Action & Platform games

Prince of Persia : The Sands of Times trilogy : especially the first and third game, the second one is too dark for the overall tone of the story. The first one will be remembered as the revival of the series and because of the gameplay, different than the two others. The third one took the more violent and classical gameplay of the second game, enhanced it, introduced the Dark Prince and gave us kick-ass boss battles.

Rayman 3 : funny characters, georgeous art style, great gameplay, and I loved the kate-boarding between the levels. That was a good mini-game.

Prototype : mainly remembered for the free-roaming, sensation of power when diriging Alex and general gameplay. Could ensure a place as a classic if a sequel expands and improve the original formula.


Adventure games

Runaways series : partly because they're good games in their own right and because there is a lack of competion. The art is beautiful, the characters funny and interesting, and the whole thing is a good experience.

Edited by Sannom, 02 September 2009 - 01:28 AM.


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God of War

That's not how you spell God Hand.

Oh, and Sonic 2006 is totally the Plan 9 from Outer Space of gaming.

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Prototype : mainly remembered for the free-roaming, sensation of power when diriging Alex and general gameplay. Could ensure a place as a classic if a sequel expands and improve the original formula.


Prototype is a horrible, horrible game. As crazy as Infamous' story was it was heads above Prototype, which was an ugly, bland and uninspired slaughterfest.

Edited by Purkake, 02 September 2009 - 01:32 AM.


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And to Purkake: Selling millions of copies does not mean that the game will become a classic... If that would be true, that it would mean that New Kids on the Block are prime example of classic music which shall be remembered for eternity... And anyone who thinks that should be burned alive and buried under the sea surface...


I'm sorry, I thought this was about video games. Also, it's just correlation.

Someone suggested Prey, why? It's pretty much the definition of a mediocre derivative shooter.



It's the same... If crap music/book/movie can sell millions, crap game which no one will remember in 5 years can sell millions aswell...

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The markets are not that similar and the best selling games(on the 360 at least) aren't crap, they are fun, memorable games.

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Like Oblivion and Gears of War.

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Virimor: Yes, I have to agree that while there has been more than a few good adventures like Ceville, Secret Files and so on, there hasn't been a game that you can call classic since TLJ. I'm still not completely sure what makes it that striking but it was.

Since TLJ I'd only call the Syberia series classic. Broken Sword 3 is a possible contender, but is marred by its ending which is completely out of this world (and in a bad way).

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The markets are not that similar and the best selling games(on the 360 at least) aren't crap, they are fun, memorable games.


The only way how Halo 3 is memorable is that it sucks ass compared to original Halo :)

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Sannom: Yes, I also loved the Runaway. The first game was a truly nice package but WTH was the second game? It was just plain wrong in so many ways (story wise)

Remember this little gem?

Edited by cronicler, 02 September 2009 - 03:27 AM.


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Like Oblivion and Gears of War.

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Like Oblivion and Gears of War.


We're talking about the mainstream here, just because you people don't like Oblivion and Gears of War, doesn't mean that millions of people didn't enjoy them when they came out.

Seriously, people will remember Halo 3 because they played it online for 1+ years just like some of you remember Counter-Strike and Team Fortress 2. Is it that hard to fathom a person for whom Oblivion is the first RPG that they had seen(other than JRPGs) and they really had fun with it, like 100h+ of fun.

Again, this was about gaming at large not our little secluded garden in the dark corner of gaming.

Edited by Purkake, 02 September 2009 - 05:40 AM.





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